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Aero India 2017: Bahrain Wants Tejas Back Again For Bahrain Airshow 2018.

Bahrain will induct LCA?

I remember last time JF17 missed the Bahrain air show.
No they will not. It is just an invitation out of courtesy for their exhibition. Another F-16 deal is being worked on, and maybe another batch of Hawk 100s will follow....
 
Tejas is coming out while some think it is not even ready.
We already have 6 LSP versions now. 8 tejas this year and then production line to deliver more in subsequent year. 16 tejas per year from 2019 onwards.
 
Well !! not everyone gets the privilege of assembling aircraft with knocked down kits,start of with 16 and not end up being a Joke. Kid, we have a lot of production lines for different type of aircrafts in motion and while two lines would get to 16 aircraft per annum, HAL has been cleared for 3 , which is the same amount for a much sophisticated SU-30 MKI fighter having an order book of 275 plus. God save your intellect should this still not make you guess.
What is a use of production line of Rolls royce luxury but in reality can't even produce Maruti 800. Clearly India talks big. Regarding JF17 production, well its done the job for us since 2010 so we are ok with the world think about it, but in real world we know where we standing.
 
Tejas is coming out while some think it is not even ready.
We already have 6 LSP versions now. 8 tejas this year and then production line to deliver more in subsequent year. 16 tejas per year from 2019 onwards.
LSP is already over , HAL is now churning out SP. 5 SP variants are already delivered to IAF

What is a use of production line of Rolls royce luxury but in reality can't even produce Maruti 800. Clearly India talks big. Regarding JF17 production, well its done the job for us since 2010 so we are ok with the world think about it, but in real world we know where we standing.
Will you please share the Indigenous content percentage in you so called Rolls Royce?

No they will not. It is just an invitation out of courtesy for their exhibition. Another F-16 deal is being worked on, and maybe another batch of Hawk 100s will follow....
Bahrain is interested in LIFT variant of Tejas hence they want to see the matured performance of LCA. Further things will be decided later
 
LSP is already over , HAL is now churning out SP. 5 SP variants are already delivered to IAF


Will you please share the Indigenous content percentage in you so called Rolls Royce?


Bahrain is interested in LIFT variant of Tejas hence they want to see the matured performance of LCA. Further things will be decided later
Read the post again troller and you will find out who is claiming what
 
Read the post again troller and you will find out who is claiming what
It's not actually a troll.
I have a valid question when you are pointing about Indian Production Capability and praising your ROLLS ROYCE and you also claimed
Regarding JF17 production, well its done the job for us since 2010 so we are ok with the world think about it

If it done your job than you should share the Indigenous content %age on your ROLLS ROYCE

And please don't call it a troll. I only used the words you mentioned in your post
 
That's a hate!

Brother, this is hate:

https://www.hrw.org/news/2009/03/25/israel-white-phosphorus-use-evidence-war-crimes

Israel: White Phosphorus Use Evidence of War Crimes
Indiscriminate Attacks Caused Needless Civilian Suffering



(Jerusalem) - Israel's repeated firing of white phosphorus shells over densely populated areas of Gaza during its recent military campaign was indiscriminate and is evidence of war crimes, Human Rights Watch said in a report released today.

The 71-page report, "Rain of Fire: Israel's Unlawful Use of White Phosphorus in Gaza," provides witness accounts of the devastating effects that white phosphorus munitions had on civilians and civilian property in Gaza. Human Rights Watch researchers in Gaza immediately after hostilities ended found spent shells, canister liners, and dozens of burnt felt wedges containing white phosphorus on city streets, apartment roofs, residential courtyards, and at a United Nations school. The report also presents ballistics evidence, photographs, and satellite imagery, as well as documents from the Israeli military and government.

Militaries use white phosphorus primarily to obscure their operations on the ground by creating thick smoke. It can also be used as an incendiary weapon.

"In Gaza, the Israeli military didn't just use white phosphorus in open areas as a screen for its troops," said Fred Abrahams, senior emergencies researcher at Human Rights Watch and co-author of the report. "It fired white phosphorus repeatedly over densely populated areas, even when its troops weren't in the area and safer smoke shells were available. As a result, civilians needlessly suffered and died."

The report documents a pattern or policy of white phosphorus use that Human Rights Watch says must have required the approval of senior military officers.

"For the needless civilian deaths caused by white phosphorus, senior commanders should be held to account," Abrahams said.

On February 1, Human Rights Watch submitted detailed questions to the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) about its white phosphorus use in Gaza. The IDF did not provide responses, citing an internal inquiry being conducted by the Southern Command.

In the recent Gaza operations, Israeli forces frequently air-burst white phosphorus in 155mm artillery shells in and near populated areas. Each air-burst shell spreads 116 burning white phosphorus wedges in a radius extending up to 125 meters from the blast point. White phosphorus ignites and burns on contact with oxygen, and continues burning at up to 1500 degrees Fahrenheit (816 degrees Celsius) until nothing is left or the oxygen supply is cut. When white phosphorus comes into contact with skin it creates intense and persistent burns.

When used properly in open areas, white phosphorus munitions are not illegal, but the Human Rights Watch report concludes that the IDF repeatedly exploded it unlawfully over populated neighborhoods, killing and wounding civilians and damaging civilian structures, including a school, a market, a humanitarian aid warehouse, and a hospital.

Israel at first denied it was using white phosphorus in Gaza but, facing mounting evidence to the contrary, said that it was using all weapons in compliance with international law. Later it announced an internal investigation into possible improper white phosphorus use.

"Past IDF investigations into allegations of wrongdoing suggest that this inquiry will be neither thorough nor impartial," Abrahams said. "That's why an international investigation is required into serious laws of war violations by all parties."

The IDF knew that white phosphorus poses life-threatening dangers to civilians, Human Rights Watch said. A medical report prepared during the recent hostilities by the Israeli ministry of health said that white phosphorus "can cause serious injury and death when it comes into contact with the skin, is inhaled or is swallowed." Burns on less than 10 percent of the body can be fatal because of damage to the liver, kidneys, and heart, the ministry report says. Infection is common and the body's absorption of the chemical can cause serious damage to internal organs, as well as death.

If the IDF intended to use white phosphorus as a smokescreen for its forces, it had a readily available non-lethal alternative to white phosphorus - smoke shells produced by an Israeli company, Human Rights Watch concluded.

All of the white phosphorus shells that Human Rights Watch found were manufactured in the United States in 1989 by Thiokol Aerospace, which was running the Louisiana Army Ammunition Plant at the time. On January 4, Reuters photographed IDF artillery units handling projectiles whose markings indicate that they were produced in the United States at the Pine Bluff Arsenal in September 1991.

To explain the high number of civilian casualties in Gaza, Israeli officials have repeatedly blamed Hamas for using civilians as "human shields" and for fighting from civilian sites. In the cases documented in the report, Human Rights Watch found no evidence of Hamas using human shields in the vicinity at the time of the attacks. In some areas Palestinian fighters appear to have been present, but this does not justify the indiscriminate use of white phosphorus in a populated area.

Human Rights Watch said that for multiple reasons it concluded that the IDF had deliberately or recklessly used white phosphorus munitions in violation of the laws of war. First, the repeated use of air-burst white phosphorus in populated areas until the last days of the operation reveals a pattern or policy of conduct rather than incidental or accidental usage. Second, the IDF was well aware of the effects of white phosphorus and the dangers it poses to civilians. Third, the IDF failed to use safer available alternatives for smokescreens.

The laws of war obligate states to investigate impartially allegations of war crimes. The evidence available demands that Israel investigate and prosecute as appropriate those who ordered or carried out unlawful attacks using white phosphorus munitions, Human Rights Watch said.

The United States government, which supplied Israel with its white phosphorus munitions, should also conduct an investigation to determine whether Israel used it in violation of the laws of war, Human Rights Watch said.


You know, its not a sin to use jewish weapons when fighting the enemy in battle. We still get all the promised rewards.
 
It's not actually a troll.
I have a valid question when you are pointing about Indian Production Capability and praising your ROLLS ROYCE and you also claimed


If it done your job than you should share the Indigenous content %age on your ROLLS ROYCE

And please don't call it a troll. I only used the words you mentioned in your post

Are you a tool or brain-dead?

He's not calling the JF17 a Rolls Royce.
 
Are you a tool or brain-dead?

He's not calling the JF17 a Rolls Royce.
When someone compare the HAL Production lines to Rolls Royce's Production line to produce Maruti 800, you should be there to clarify that luxury.

Now, come to my question, whats the %age Pakistani content on your Thunder?
It's a simple and straightforward question , hence I request you guys not to divert it?
 
No Arab countries will buy Israeli military equipments. They don't even allow Israeli nationalists to enter Arab world,no visa for Israelis.

You are quite wrong.

They buy Israeli satellites through third party countries like UK. Basically, they buy re-exported versions and call it assets from that country.

Israel and the GCC have deep secret relations.

All this boycott is only on the surface.
 
It's not actually a troll.
I have a valid question when you are pointing about Indian Production Capability and praising your ROLLS ROYCE and you also claimed


If it done your job than you should share the Indigenous content %age on your ROLLS ROYCE

And please don't call it a troll. I only used the words you mentioned in your post
Why are you asking questions about something thats widely available. Just look up the jf17 thread.
In summary Pakistan and CAC went in 1996 to co design an aircarft obviously most testing was done in CAC due to lack of testing facilities. As its 50-50 JV. about 59 % airframe is produced here (just like 25% for K-8/HL-9). With most of avionics being Pakistani some communication equipment being turkish, and some EW beibg from indra Italy and the radar from china, engine from russia.
You calculate the rest your self

For comparison probably LCA uses more home equipment apart from the fly by wire and analog systems, engines, most of the avionics and radar and while list of other subset
Engine design testing of local indian engine was obviously carried in russai due to lack of testing facilities
 
JF-17 already have overseas orders.

Tejas still zero.

Bahrain pities india for the one hell of a white battle elephant
 
Spoke to 2 instructor pilots who fly for RBAF...they said that's just hogwash. They're patching up a deal for a second batch of Hawks.
HAL placed two trainer variants at AERO INDIA 17 and many foreign and Indian pilots took flight on it and for your kind information, they all give thumbs up.
And one more thing you need to know that Hawk and LCA belongs to different categories.

Bahrain ordered Hawk 129 which is not a LIFT Aircraft.

Only hawk 120 and 127 are termed as LIFT which is only used by Australia.

Don't post fake news.

JF-17 already have overseas orders.

Tejas still zero.

Bahrain pities india for the one hell of a white battle elephant
No, FC-1 made its debut on Export .
None of the PAC produced THUNDER will go on export.

Jf-17 aka FC-1 is designed by China and produced by both CAC and PAC. This is what we already did for various Aircraft including Mig-21 , Su-30MKI, Jaguar etc
INDIA didn't like to change the name of jets just for license Production but China did it for various timEe like for Mig-21 they rename it as F-7.

Note: China is marketing this co-developed jet as FC-1 not as JF-17

Why are you asking questions about something thats widely available. Just look up the jf17 thread.
In summary Pakistan and CAC went in 1996 to co design an aircarft obviously most testing was done in CAC due to lack of testing facilities. As its 50-50 JV. about 59 % airframe is produced here (just like 25% for K-8/HL-9). With most of avionics being Pakistani some communication equipment being turkish, and some EW beibg from indra Italy and the radar from china, engine from russia.
You calculate the rest your self

For comparison probably LCA uses more home equipment apart from the fly by wire and analog systems, engines, most of the avionics and radar and while list of other subset
Engine design testing of local indian engine was obviously carried in russai due to lack of testing facilities
Why don't you share the content percentage directly.
Based on "content %age by value" and "content %age by number".
Thats it.

No other thing was asked.

Don't compare India tried to design Kaveri because your country is nowhere close to India in Engine development.

GTRE already developed Manik Turbofan, HTFE-25 in very recent time.
 
HAL placed two trainer variants at AERO INDIA 17 and many foreign and Indian pilots took flight on it and for your kind information, they all give thumbs up.
And one more thing you need to know that Hawk and LCA belongs to different categories.

Bahrain ordered Hawk 129 which is not a LIFT Aircraft.

Only hawk 120 and 127 are termed as LIFT which is only used by Australia.

Don't post fake news.


No, FC-1 made its debut on Export .
None of the PAC produced THUNDER will go on export.

Jf-17 aka FC-1 is designed by China and produced by both CAC and PAC. This is what we already did for various Aircraft including Mig-21 , Su-30MKI, Jaguar etc
INDIA didn't like to change the name of jets just for license Production but China did it for various timEe like for Mig-21 they rename it as F-7.

Note: China is marketing this co-developed jet as FC-1 not as JF-17


Why don't you share the content percentage directly.
Based on "content %age by value" and "content %age by number".
Thats it.

No other thing was asked.

Don't compare India tried to design Kaveri because your country is nowhere close to India in Engine development.

GTRE already developed Manik Turbofan, HTFE-25 in very recent time.
I apologise if it becomes fake news to you but I will believe serving personnel in the squadrons over there as I have worked there before. So please next time...behave.
 

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