What would escalate war with Iran?

[Surenas]

Does that include me too ?

No. I'm talking about people like Atawolf, Hashashin, etc. Those kids that are fascinated about war, until it affects themselves.

 

[The SiLent crY]

It depends. Israel has been begging US to attack, but Americans are hesitating.

And one month because US finished Iraq in about a month too.

I've read about the US-Iraq war man. the US attacked Iraq cos people were against Saddam . Don't forget that the few cities resisted by people weren't conquered until they bribed Iraqi Republican Guard commanders and took Baghdad with the least casualties . Meanwhile you need to know the US had Baghdad's Air defense plan which had been designed by France during Iran-Iraq war and also around 80% of Iraqi army had been destroyed in 1991 .

 

[Abii]

That's exactly what we want, a national and prosperous Iran that minds it's own business, which will lead to a more peaceful and prosperous ME.

Iran will have more peace with the arab world when the mullahs are gone, there's no question there. But it's not because our retarded mullahs have some sort of animosity against the arabs, it's because you guys can't stand shia theocratic Iran and in your leader's delusional minds, Iran-Iraq, two shia majority nations, being friends with each other is a sign of the "ajami empire" coming back.

In any case you're right that there will be more peace, but only for a while. Without the mullahs Iran's ideological driving force will be Iranian/Parsi nationalism. People's priorities will not be shia Islam like the mullahs want, people's priorities will be Qatar's continuous stealing of Iranian gas, Persian/ar** gulf dispute etc... things like that. In fact after a while things will get worse. Iran will ally itself with Israel and the West. Right now arabs are controlling Iran. Without them Iranian nationalists will.

 

[Etiene]

Absolutely, Arabs knew that Israel strength was in it's air force, so Egyptians built a formidable anti air missile umbrella that covers up to 20 km from Suez Canal, non of Israel jets survived upon trying to raid Egyptian forces, so Israel after heavy losses got it, Egyotian army couldn't move beyond 20km (outside the umbrella) so Israel turned with all it's power into Syria, and to alleviate the pressure into Syria part Egyptian army moved forward and got heavy losses leaving a gap for Israelis to penetrate, however, Syrians reached Tabariya lake and suddenly stopped and no one knows why although they won all previous battles, however it was a fatal mistake, GCC, Jordanian, Iraqi and Morrocian armies came for help and prevented Demuscuss from falling. So the mistake here is that Israel fought Syria alone and when finished it turned into Egypt.

Which war did you say this was?

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

People thought invasion in Iraq would lead to total chaos and hell in Middle East, it did not. Same as a hypothetical western led invasion of Iran won't lead to the doomsday scenario others think will happen to the region damage will mostly be contained within Iran. Not saying I want this but hypothetically if US, Israel, and Arab slave nations decided to wage war on Iran then yes Iran will be neutralized in days.

But I don't understand why Iranians think all region will be embroiled as if taking down Iran equates to taking down Middle East. All this talk of Shia flare up, let me tell you Sunnis make up ~80% of the Muslim popln and Shias 15%, and the remaining ~5% belong to other tiny sects. Sunnis aren't going to tolerate Shia flare up across the region. No country is going to come to the defense of Iran and the 12th Imam isn't going to save Iran. Iran's best bet is to prevent war from taking place but in its current direction war is encroaching, nuclear issue is a hot button topic in Tel Aviv and for Washington but Tel Aviv keeps pleading Washington to do something...

Coming from a.......... PAKISTANI?

Which war did you say this was?

1973 WAR.......

 

[Armstrong]

No. I'm talking about people like Atawolf, Hashashin, etc. Those kids that are fascinated about war, until it affects themselves. But he, Atawolf's parents flee Turkey to clean toilets in Holland, so he knows real life struggle.

Ouch !

I dunno what to do here - Hes a Turk (brothers) & you're a Pakistani (brother) !

 

[A1Kaid]

Coming from a.......... PAKISTANI?



1973 WAR.......

Pakistan cooperates with West and US but unlike some Arab states isn't a slave nation to West. It was Pakistan who blocked NATO supplies for months, because it was in Pakistan's interest. So when Pakistan needs to it will go against western coalition but cooperate when it benefits.

Several Arab countries have US bases, KSA pleaded for US troops in Iraq's invasion of Kuwait, Arab dictators have traditionally been backed by US. Egypt has changed, but Gulf is still western backed puppets.

 

[Syrian Lion]

Absolutely, Arabs knew that Israel strength was in it's air force, so Egyptians built a formidable anti air missile umbrella that covers up to 20 km from Suez Canal, non of Israel jets survived upon trying to raid Egyptian forces, so Israel after heavy losses got it, Egyotian army couldn't move beyond 20km (outside the umbrella) so Israel turned with all it's power into Syria, and to alleviate the pressure into Syria part Egyptian army moved forward and got heavy losses leaving a gap for Israelis to penetrate, however, Syrians reached Tabariya lake and suddenly stopped and no one knows why although they won all previous battles, however it was a fatal mistake, GCC, Jordanian, Iraqi and Morrocian armies came for help and prevented Demuscuss from falling. So the mistake here is that Israel fought Syria alone and when finished it turned into Egypt.

You must be high... Egypt after got Suez Canal it made a cease-fire treaty with Israel... so Egypt left Syria alone in this war, which is why Syria couldn't advance anymore... and wth are you talking about? GCC didn't send anything...

 

[Armstrong]

Pakistan cooperates with West and US but unlike some Arab states isn't a slave nation to West. It was Pakistan who blocked NATO supplies for months, because it was in Pakistan's interest. So when Pakistan needs to it will go against western coalition but cooperate when it benefits.

True but we do have the tendency of giving much...much more than we receive !

 

[TurAr]

Turkey also has American bases and it's a slave of the West while trying to portray an image of independence.

Hatred and extremism destroys a man's brain.

Couldn't agree more, self-awareness is a good thing to have though.

USA has an undeniable influence on every single country in the world. If it also serves your own interests, there is nothing wrong with playing by its rules sometimes.

Of course you are free to comfort yourself as thinking "at least we are independent" but unfortunetely you are not. Iran and its nationals are slaves of a medieval mentality.

So use that word wisely next time.

 

[A1Kaid]

True but we do have the tendency of giving much...much more than we receive !

Because of Zardari Government, enough said. Current military leaders are also rotten. Though historically Pakistan isn't a slave to the West otherwise Pakistan would not have become a nuclear power, went to war several times, blocked US and NATO supplies for months, and other examples.

 

[Armstrong]

You must be high... Egypt after got Suez Canal it made a cease-fire treaty with Israel... so Egypt left Syria alone in this war, which is why Syria couldn't advance anymore... and wth are you talking about? GCC didn't send anything...

Dude on a serious note - Why didn't you guys think of a unified command back then ?

You could have defeated Israel every single time & yet one missed opportunity after another (kinda like us) !

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

Iran will have more peace with the arab world when the mullahs are gone, there's no question there. But it's not because our retarded mullahs have some sort of animosity against the arabs, it's because you guys can't stand shia theocratic Iran and in your leader's delusional minds, Iran-Iraq, two shia majority nations, being friends with each other is a sign of the "ajami empire" coming back.

In any case you're right that there will be more peace, but only for a while. Without the mullahs Iran's ideological driving force will be Iranian/Parsi nationalism. People's priorities will not be shia Islam like the mullahs want, people's priorities will be Qatar's continuous stealing of Iranian gas, Persian/ar** gulf dispute etc... things like that. In fact after a while things will get worse. Iran will ally itself with Israel and the West. Right now arabs are controlling Iran. Without them Iranian nationalists will.

Why can't Iran just be like Turkey? When I look at Iran, I see all the elements of a strong nation, abundant national resources, Vast and fertile land, large population, strategic location, history and educated people, which is very few nations have. But you got lunatics to govern you...

 

[Armstrong]

Because of Zardari Government, enough said. Current military leaders are also rotten. Though historically Pakistan isn't a slave to the West otherwise Pakistan would not have become a nuclear power, went to war several times, blocked US and NATO supplies for months, and other examples.

True but when we foOk up we do it in a magnanimous way - the two Afghan wars are testament to that ! We really should have looked out more for ourselves than the 'greater good' of the world community - A pile of turd for all its worth !

 

[The SiLent crY]

US has more troops and protection in the middle east now. They could launch an invasion west from Iraq and east from Afghanistan... If Iran attacks other countries, it is just an excuse for them to get involved. There are also patriot missiles in Turkey.

US has failed against Taliban and Algaede in ME . Don't forget that , the biggest weakness of big armies is Irregular war .

Take a look on Israel - Arabs war . Israel could beat 6 Arabian classic armies in a week but they were paralyzed against Hezbollah cos of Irregular war .
Although I think such threads end in nothing but tell people that the US gave it's answer in Iran-Iraq war and that's why they've forgotten military option .