What Should be the "ideal" size of the Pakistan Navy in 2020.

[Dr. Strangelove]

At least we shold have 10 advanced Quing class subz within our PN fleet with super stealth cruise missiles range min 2500km speed 3.0 macs at least....Insha-Allah....

6 are in off and u r talking about 10

 

[Penguin]

At least we shold have 10 advanced Quing class subz within our PN fleet with super stealth cruise missiles range min 2500km speed 3.0 macs at least....Insha-Allah....

I should have 12 inches, at least ;-)

 

[Zarvan]

24 Frigates 12 Submarines and 30 above Missile Boats are ideal to have by 2020

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

24 Frigates 12 Submarines and 30 above Missile Boats are ideal to have by 2020

by seing the current deals its not possible it is more likly this
2 0hps [possibly upgraded like g class frigates of turkish navy]
4 f22p
4 milgem class stealth corvette
4-6 type 54a
3 mine hunters
10 facs
20+ messile boats
10 Auxiliaries
12 griffon howercrafts
6 opv
6 qing class subs
3 agosta 90b
2 agosta 70 upgraded
8 midjet subs
40 helicopters
naval aviation
40 helicopters
32 mirage 5
50+ jf17
3 orien awacs
10 p3c oriens
7 Fokker F27-200 Friendship – maritime surveillance aircraft
2 Breguet Atlantique I
4 Hawker 850 – VIP transport aircraft

 

[regular]

I guess I want to see at least 10 Qing class subs with stealth cruise missiles 2500km plus U214 subs at least 5 in number alongwith the stealth version of supersonic stealth babur cruise missiles. I guess then I can say its a threat to our enemies in reality.The rest U can add whatever U like......

 

[Don Jaguar]

by seing the current deals its not possible it is more likly this
2 0hps [possibly upgraded like g class frigates of turkish navy]
4 f22p
4 milgem class stealth corvette
4-6 type 54a
3 mine hunters
10 facs
20+ messile boats
10 Auxiliaries
12 griffon howercrafts
6 opv
6 qing class subs
3 agosta 90b
2 agosta 70 upgraded
8 midjet subs
40 helicopters
naval aviation
40 helicopters
32 mirage 5
50+ jf17
3 orien awacs
10 p3c oriens
7 Fokker F27-200 Friendship – maritime surveillance aircraft
2 Breguet Atlantique I
4 Hawker 850 – VIP transport aircraft

3, 4 ACs bhi rakh lo.

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

3, 4 ACs bhi rakh lo.

we dont have any need for them
and about the list i made it according to the deals and MOUs which r signed
and the only thing i added are 40 chopers and

 

[Don Jaguar]

we dont have any need for them

Who knows in future someone attack us, someone from half world away!!!

 

[DarK-LorD]

3, 4 ACs bhi rakh lo.

But who will give the $$?

 

[regular]

Who knows in future someone attack us, someone from half world away!!!

I guess U still not sure about the attack from across the world on us....???....

 

[Don Jaguar]

But who will give the $$?

We have 9 years to raise money for this.

 

[regular]

We have 9 years to raise money for this.

If we can raise money for 3 to 4 aircraft carriers then that would be great....umm....

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

If we can raise money for 3 to 4 aircraft carriers then that would be great....umm....

oh please we dont need aircraft carriers to defend our 700km coastline
and they are too costly to buy and operate so stop living in the world of fantasy
and india is inducting carriers because there coastline is far bigger than ours
u can see the difference

Who knows in future someone attack us, someone from half world away!!!

for deterence we dont need ACs for us only nuclear armed subs can do the same job

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

PN as of right now:
4 F-22Ps
2 Type 54a
3 Agosta 90B
2 Upgraded Agosta 70
6 Qing class subs
1+5 OPH
1 LPD
6 Amazon frigs
3 Mine hunters
7 FACs Jallalat class + Larkana class 600 ton chinese FACs being built in Karachi n china
2 -4?-MRTCPs
8-10 Aux ships
12 Griffon class hover crafts
2-4 midget subs X-Crafts

Air wing:
12 Z-9 ASW helis
2 Atlanquie
12 PC-3 Orion upgraded with Hawkeye 2Ds ---2 destroyed to be replaced by usa.
8 SA 319B
3 Linx
6 Sea kings
34 PAF mirage ROSE
7 fokkers
UAVs (indigenous plus VTOL ones)


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Future requirements:
4-6 more subs ...including a few nuclears if possible.
15-30 ASW helicopters
More Orion like planes
2 sqd of JF-17s or J-10Bs
4-6 + FRIGS... PN is interested milgem class
4 destroyers
4 mine hunters
4-6+ FACS
PAF AWACS.

till 2020... 8 years.

 

[Archie]

oh please we dont need aircraft carriers to defend our 700km coastline
and they are too costly to buy and operate so stop living in the world of fantasy
and india is inducting carriers because there coastline is far bigger than ours
u can see the difference

for deterence we dont need ACs for us only nuclear armed subs can do the same job

You are right
Pak has a coast line of roughly 1000 Km , compared to India which has a coastline of 7500 Km India also has Islands Like Andaman and Nicobar islands which are like 2000 Km away from our coast , hence we require Aircraft carriers to defend them

Pakistan can buy 6 Modern frigates or 3 Destroyers for the price of a 40000 Ton AC , and my guess is that 6 Type 54A supported by 6 modern Subs as well as 30 JF17M would be enough to defend the 1000 km coastline