Was Ataturk spy for British against Ottoman Empire?

[ovarel]

You got that right, on a side note, Turkey have given women the right to vote about a decade before france do it. Also we had a woman prime minister before most of the european countries and US.

As if its like there were other candidates than Kemal.

Lets make it 'right to vote for Kemal'.

 

[Zulkarneyn]

Why would any muslim like a guy who waged psychologic war on Islam, if they do they are ignorant. And all my MUSLIM TURK friends hate this betrayer from their bones, give me a break. Continue on thinking he won the independence war single handedly, you ignorant fools. Fooling the country in the early 20th century is undertsandable (with no free information flow) but today i don't get it. The man manipulated all the information and made himself a demigod for some Turks, at least those who were keen to worship a human or a statue. Go on worshipping your statues, he will save you from the evil Muslims.

 

[Mosamania]

 

[NeutralCitizen]

These conspiracies by turks is amazing I can see the more religious turks and the secular turks It shows what turkey state is in behind all the big cities the real turkey still has many shanty towns and has a Kurdish insurgency.
kemal no doubt overthrew a backwater system however at the price of the non turks living in turkey, kurds, armenians.

 

[Deno]

Why would any muslim like a guy who waged psychologic war on Islam, if they do they are ignorant. And all my MUSLIM TURK friends hate this betrayer from their bones, give me a break. Continue on thinking he won the independence war single handedly, you ignorant fools. Fooling the country in the early 20th century is undertsandable (with no free information flow) but today i don't get it. The man manipulated all the information and made himself a demigod for some Turks, at least those who were keen to worship a human or a statue. Go on worshipping your statues, he will save you from the evil Muslims.

What kind of education did you go trough dude... Did any of us claimed that Mustafa Kemal came down from the heaven and won the war for us? What do you think we are, muslim? We don't believe in legends dude...

We study history and that history although somewhat biased for the side of Islam and Turks it doesn't raise praises for Mustafa Kemal more than he needs to. Man, you guys think that we are like you and believe ridiculus fairy tales...

 

[RazPaK]

These conspiracies by turks is amazing I can see the more religious turks and the secular turks It shows what turkey state is in behind all the big cities the real turkey still has many shanty downs and has a Kurdish insurgency.

You just troll everyone. Why don't you **** off?

 

[Mosamania]

These conspiracies by turks is amazing I can see the more religious turks and the secular turks It shows what turkey state is in behind all the big cities the real turkey still has many shanty downs and has a Kurdish insurgency.

Here is a tip for you NC. Sticking your nose in an another's country's internal politics is like sticking your nose in somebody else's A$$hole... I guess you are one of the people who enjoy doing that.

 

[LegionnairE]

In the same time Turkey denied women with scarf entering universities into 21th century, which almost no countries on earth does, there is your champion for humanity.

No, it was later. It was in cold war times and hijab ban in universities was also a part of cold war precautions. Army couldn't fight a war with communitsts outside and sharia lovers inside the country simultaneously

Extreme situations require extreme measures. No one here defend this and nor you should feed your hatred towards us because of this. What's done is done. Nobody talks about madımak incident nobody's talking about the menemen incident "kemalists" have moved on. You better do so too because im tired of this, "hijab this, hijab that"

 

[Deno]

You just troll everyone. Why don't you **** off?

Well said sir, well said....

 

[NeutralCitizen]

Here is a tip for you NC. Sticking your nose in an another's country's internal politics is like sticking your nose in somebody else's A$$hole... I guess you are one of the people who enjoy doing that.

Mosa my brother it's been a while how do you do ? no needs for words like that muslims don't say that to other muslims.

Kemal Mustafa also created a dangerous pan turk movement this threatens to destabilize central asia, xinjiang, russia, iran. Mustafa himself started one of the worst nationalist movements and it will only take a beating like Russia gave to the turks to stop it.

 

[LegionnairE]

Why would any muslim like a guy who waged psychologic war on Islam, if they do they are ignorant. And all my MUSLIM TURK friends hate this betrayer from their bones, give me a break. Continue on thinking he won the independence war single handedly, you ignorant fools. Fooling the country in the early 20th century is undertsandable (with no free information flow) but today i don't get it. The man manipulated all the information and made himself a demigod for some Turks, at least those who were keen to worship a human or a statue. Go on worshipping your statues, he will save you from the evil Muslims.

all i read is hatred hatred and yet more hatred. The guy saved the fvcking country what more you expect? It is perfectly normal that we build statues of a war hero dedicated his life to this country and fought for this country unlike you suckers and unlike your erdo he've been on battleground since very young age. How many of keyboard commandos like you can say the same about himself?

 

[RazPaK]

Mosa my brother it's been a while how do you do ? no needs for words like that muslims don't say that to other muslims.

Kemal Mustafa also created a dangerous pan turk movement this threatens to destabilize central asia, xinjiang, russia, iran. Mustafa himself started one of the worst nationalist movements and it will only take a beating like Russia gave to the turks to stop it.

Haha Neutral troll back again.

Why don't you worry about the Israeli pounding you Egyptians got time and time again?

 

[NeutralCitizen]

Haha Neutral troll back again.

Why don't you worry about the Israeli pounding you Egyptians got time and time again?

Arabs cannot defeat Israel. the best thing now is to focus on their countries.

 

[RazPaK]

Arabs cannot defeat Israel. the best thing now is to focus on their countries.

So go to Israeli forum and bend over for them. Stop ruining discussion here.

 

[Ir.Tab.]

I never classify different points of views in a country as "shanty downs" although I do not like their manner of calling eachother. Governments what ever they are, secular, non-secular, ottoman, ... are to provide security for the nation. With which logic they call their compatriots by those kind of literature in a public forum, I do not understand! I think there are more mature way of expressing an idea without harming eachother.