Vikramditya & the IAC Vikrant Threat To Pakistan Waters

[Capt.Popeye]

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[Parul]

Ghazab to hai; Mohatarma.
Miah ney dimagh sey kuch ajooba hi nikala hai.

a sad miah bhi ajoobay say kam nahi hai. PDF ka professional KOHINOOR HEERA hai...
a sad miah.

 

[danger007]

1.An AC is a white elephant without necessary compliments of craft/eqpt to make a unit with the AC as the centrepiece. Unless integrated into the national plan/strategy/doctrine to wage war,the AC can be a liability.Aside WMD AC is the important strategic asset a nation can posses. Using the AC merely to project power,when there is none,can costly.To obtain operational capability a fleet with AC will need extensive and lengthy training/exercise -which themselves are expensive.

2.IN's maintenance level is quite poor and really laughable for such a large navy.An AC contains some sophisticated tools/eqpt which will puzzle IN Maintenance/Logistics for long.

3. To counter IN ACs, PN and BN need to acquire killer subs - always upgrading them. Also should be inducted is the Chinese AC Killer missile.

4. The lay of the Indian Ocean demand that PN forge close relations with the navies of Indonesia,BD, Malaysia,SL,UAE and S Arabia.And extend this to Turkey and China.Training, joint exercises, and reciprocity base arrangements should be forged.

arey yar,you are the professional...keep it up??? but does BN have sub??got fund to buy atleast 1960's sub??? Forget about upgrades.... killer sub? to kill AC??? oh my god we should hide our P-8I...do we need to use AC for BN???? our Coast gaurd is enough for the BN.... anyways forget about Sub...first buy an Helicopter for your NAVY??? When did you check the Maintenance of our NAVAL SHIPS???

Remove TURKEY,INDONESIA,MALAYSIA,UAE,S ARABIA,UAE,CHINA,PN...none of the above want to fight with IN.... who remained BN with no fighters,choppers,frigate,Destroyers....with the just fishing trawlers what you guys gonna do...TROLLING???

First of all, Does bd and pak got good relation to align???

 

[Parul]

arey yar,you are the professional...keep it up??? but did BN have sub??got fund to buy atleast 1960's sub??? Forget about upgrades.... killer sub? to kill AC??? oh my god we should hide our P-8I...do we need to use AC for BN???? our Coast gaurd is enough for the BN.... anyways forget about Sub...first buy an Helicopter for your NAVY??? When did you check the Maintenance of our NAVAL SHIPS???

Remove TURKEY,INDONESIA,MALAYSIA,UAE,S ARABIA,UAE,CHINA,PN...none of the above want to fight with IN.... who remained BN with no fighters,choppers,frigate,Destroyers....with the just fishing trawlers what you guys gonna do...TROLLING???

First of all, Does bd and pak got good relation to align???

a sad miah is a Professional Troll.

 

[notorious_eagle]

This is what happened in 1965 as well where PA was out of ammunition and India had 80% of the stock still intact.

I didn't know that it was 1965.

Pakistan since than has worked very hard to ensure that it maintains adequate supplies. Officially doctrine states that Pakistan maintains 45 days worth of supplies, and that is a very conservative number. Since than, PA and other fighting forces have developed a very elaborative concept of supply depots spread throughout the country. In conclusion, you need to do more research on Pakistan's Logistical Capability instead of blurting out unsubstantiated statements.

Yes, your spending may be more now but so will be the intensity and cost of armament. Things have not changed much on a relative scale, they have only gotten worse.

Not really, the balance of power is roughly the same. Pakistan is still immune from a military strike from India and can match India at Corps Level Deployment.

 

[kaykay]

1.An AC is a white elephant without necessary compliments of craft/eqpt to make a unit with the AC as the centrepiece. Unless integrated into the national plan/strategy/doctrine to wage war,the AC can be a liability.Aside WMD AC is the important strategic asset a nation can posses. Using the AC merely to project power,when there is none,can costly.To obtain operational capability a fleet with AC will need extensive and lengthy training/exercise -which themselves are expensive.

2.IN's maintenance level is quite poor and really laughable for such a large navy.An AC contains some sophisticated tools/eqpt which will puzzle IN Maintenance/Logistics for long.

3. To counter IN ACs, PN and BN need to acquire killer subs - always upgrading them. Also should be inducted is the Chinese AC Killer missile.

4. The lay of the Indian Ocean demand that PN forge close relations with the navies of Indonesia,BD, Malaysia,SL,UAE and S Arabia.And extend this to Turkey and China.Training, joint exercises, and reciprocity base arrangements should be forged.

Je baat Professional saheb!!!

 

[SrNair]

1.An AC is a white elephant without necessary compliments of craft/eqpt to make a unit with the AC as the centrepiece. Unless integrated into the national plan/strategy/doctrine to wage war,the AC can be a liability.Aside WMD AC is the important strategic asset a nation can posses. Using the AC merely to project power,when there is none,can costly.To obtain operational capability a fleet with AC will need extensive and lengthy training/exercise -which themselves are expensive.

2.IN's maintenance level is quite poor and really laughable for such a large navy.An AC contains some sophisticated tools/eqpt which will puzzle IN Maintenance/Logistics for long.

3. To counter IN ACs, PN and BN need to acquire killer subs - always upgrading them. Also should be inducted is the Chinese AC Killer missile.

4. The lay of the Indian Ocean demand that PN forge close relations with the navies of Indonesia,BD, Malaysia,SL,UAE and S Arabia.And extend this to Turkey and China.Training, joint exercises, and reciprocity base arrangements should be forged.

Ha ha .Very nice try.But we think IN is more professional than you.Actually they show it in 1971,and BD born.

 

[acetophenol]

1.An AC is a white elephant without necessary compliments of craft/eqpt to make a unit with the AC as the centrepiece. Unless integrated into the national plan/strategy/doctrine to wage war,the AC can be a liability.Aside WMD AC is the important strategic asset a nation can posses. Using the AC merely to project power,when there is none,can costly.To obtain operational capability a fleet with AC will need extensive and lengthy training/exercise -which themselves are expensive.

2.IN's maintenance level is quite poor and really laughable for such a large navy.An AC contains some sophisticated tools/eqpt which will puzzle IN Maintenance/Logistics for long.

3. To counter IN ACs, PN and BN need to acquire killer subs - always upgrading them. Also should be inducted is the Chinese AC Killer missile.

4. The lay of the Indian Ocean demand that PN forge close relations with the navies of Indonesia,BD, Malaysia,SL,UAE and S Arabia.And extend this to Turkey and China.Training, joint exercises, and reciprocity base arrangements should be forged.

You are questioning IN's ability to Operate an AC?Do you realize that IN has been operating them for several decades,and including INS Vikrant AC playing a major role in '71 war?

 

[UKBengali]

arey yar,you are the professional...keep it up??? but does BN have sub??got fund to buy atleast 1960's sub??? Forget about upgrades.... killer sub? to kill AC??? oh my god we should hide our P-8I...do we need to use AC for BN???? our Coast gaurd is enough for the BN.... anyways forget about Sub...first buy an Helicopter for your NAVY??? When did you check the Maintenance of our NAVAL SHIPS???

Remove TURKEY,INDONESIA,MALAYSIA,UAE,S ARABIA,UAE,CHINA,PN...none of the above want to fight with IN.... who remained BN with no fighters,choppers,frigate,Destroyers....with the just fishing trawlers what you guys gonna do...TROLLING???

First of all, Does bd and pak got good relation to align???

BD Navy is no match for Indian Navy but it will not be as bad as you think.

By the time both your new carriers are ready BD will likely have:

1/ 2-3 Modern submarines.
2/ 5 frigates with modern close range sams and anti-ship missiles - these frigates will have helicopter on board
3/ 6-8 corvettes with modern close range sams and anti-ship missiles - these frigates will have helicopter on board
4/ Possibly 2-3 frigates with 24-32 VLS medium range SAMs - Chinese will have them available for countries like BD at an affordable price(200-250 million each) but not sure yet whether BD will purchase though.


No match for IN but way more powerful than the Indian coast guard!

 

[danger007]

BD Navy is no match for Indian Navy but it will not be as bad as you think.

By the time both your new carriers are ready BD will likely have:

1/ 2-3 Modern submarines.
2/ 5 frigates with modern close range sams and anti-ship missiles - these frigates will have helicopter on board
3/ 6-8 corvettes with modern close range sams and anti-ship missiles - these frigates will have helicopter on board
4/ Possibly 2-3 frigates with 24-32 VLS medium range SAMs - Chinese will have them available for countries like BD at an affordable price(200-250 million each) but not sure yet whether BD will purchase though.


No match for IN but way more powerful than the Indian coast guard!

Tell me one thing does BD got funds to buy 1 modern Sub???? Sub are not any Pizza to get within 30min.... You need to make deal by this year end If you want to have operational sub by the time Both Vikky and IAC1 is operational together....5 frigates??? lol get one frigate and 2 corvettes...

 

[UKBengali]

Tell me one thing does BD got funds to buy 1 modern Sub???? Sub are not any Pizza to get within 30min.... You need to make deal by this year end If you want to have operational sub by the time Both Vikky and IAC1 is operational together....5 frigates??? lol get one frigate and 2 corvettes...

BD already has 3 frigates and 2 more have been ordered. Those two are due to arrive in BD by early next year.

3 submarines from China will cost 1 billion dollars. BD spent 4 billion dollars in the last 5 years on arms imports.

Deal has already been made for two Chinese subs for training purposes but they will not be the modern Song/Yuan types.

BD's 150 billion dollar economy is forecast to grow at nearly 7% a year to 2018 - you can do the math there.

 

[kaykay]

@UKBengali no disrespect but I just checked BD naval ships and Myanmar Naval ships and found that Myanmar is better equipped atleast with current ships.
Also though its offtopic but I would like to see comparision between future of BD navy and Myanmar navy considering Myanmar to operate 8 Frigates(6 Indigenous), 2-4 submarines(kilo class), 2-4 corvettes each armed with 4 C-802 missiles, 10 FACs each armed with 4 C-802 anti-ship missiles by 2020.

 

[Shadow_Hunter]

@UKBengali no disrespect but I just checked BD naval ships and Myanmar Naval ships and found that Myanmar is better equipped atleast with current ships.
Also though its offtopic but I would like to see comparision between future of BD navy and Myanmar navy considering Myanmar to operate 8 Frigates(6 Indigenous), 2-4 submarines(kilo class), 2-4 corvettes each armed with 4 C-802 missiles, 10 FACs each armed with 4 C-802 anti-ship missiles by 2020.

Thats a better navy than pakistan. Bangladesh needs to gear up

 

[asad71]

Tell me one thing does BD got funds to buy 1 modern Sub???? Sub are not any Pizza to get within 30min.... You need to make deal by this year end If you want to have operational sub by the time Both Vikky and IAC1 is operational together....5 frigates??? lol get one frigate and 2 corvettes...

1.Graft ridden nation and graft ridden defense sector should be ashamed to raise voice. Have you forgotten what all went on in acquiring the Russian scrapped ship Vikramaditya? And don't lecture us on a Service famed for wife-swapping.What a filthy dirty lot of scums!

2. Fyi,we have several subs on offer to us for free from PLAN - including basing a nuclear sub in a base to be constructed by them.That is recorded in the proceedings of the Parliamentary Committee on Defense headed by Gen Mahbub during BNP rule.

 

[danger007]

1.Graft ridden nation and graft ridden defense sector should be ashamed to raise voice. Have you forgotten what all went on in acquiring the Russian scrapped ship Vikramaditya? And don't lecture us on a Service famed for wife-swapping.What a filthy dirty lot of scums!

2. Fyi,we have several subs on offer to us for free from PLAN - including basing a nuclear sub in a base to be constructed by them.That is recorded in the proceedings of the Parliamentary Committee on Defense headed by Gen Mahbub during BNP rule.

Nuke sub to BN??? enough jokes for the day.... lol delusional again...