Should Rajput Class Destroyers be Transferred to Vietnam and Philliphines

[tanlixiang28776]

lol with AESA Come out of delusion . We can make Brahmos at Hyderabad and Su30s at HAL plant . We ordered Su30s from Russia so that induction becomes fast . It will give us more experience of making aircraft from individual components and China wouldn't accuse Russia for selling to Vietnam because it is not direct deal .

LoL with what?

China has had airborne AESA platforms since 2003. They are in service on 5 KJ 2000 Early warning aircraft, 8 KJ 200 ones and are equipping figters as we speak. What is delusional are Indians clearly refuse to believe 9 year old news .

As for the SU 30s Russia allows India to produce them fr their own use. Never have they allowed you to sell them on their behalf.
Even if they were to sell Su 30s they would make it themselves and get the full profit margins from it. What makes you think they'll let you get a single cent in that deal? Indian delusions at the best.

 

[faithfulguy]

LoL with what?

China has had airborne AESA platforms since 2003. They are in service on 5 KJ 2000 Early warning aircraft, 8 KJ 200 ones and are equipping figters as we speak. What is delusional are Indians clearly refuse to believe 9 year old news .

As for the SU 30s Russia allows India to produce them fr their own use. Never have they allowed you to sell them on their behalf.
Even if they were to sell Su 30s they would make it themselves and get the full profit margins from it. What makes you think they'll let you get a single cent in that deal? Indian delusions at the best.

It seems that a lot of Indians here believe that MKI is an indigenous Indian plane. So they can do whatever they want. Its the 2nd most exported military hardware of India, right behind Brahmos that they already have exported to Japan, Vietnam, Taiwan and now Philippine.

 

[tanlixiang28776]

It seems that a lot of Indians here believe that MKI is an indigenous Indian plane. So they can do whatever they want. Its the 2nd most exported military hardware of India, right behind Brahmos that they already have exported to Japan, Vietnam, Taiwan and now Philippine.

The dripping sarcasm........

 

[tvsram1992]

LoL with what?

China has had airborne AESA platforms since 2003. They are in service on 5 KJ 2000 Early warning aircraft, 8 KJ 200 ones and are equipping figters as we speak. What is delusional are Indians clearly refuse to believe 9 year old news .

You keep on dreaming . Iam not speaking about awacs . You said flankers have been equipped with AESA . Chinese delusion and photoshopping.

As for the SU 30s Russia allows India to produce them fr their own use. Never have they allowed you to sell them on their behalf.
Even if they were to sell Su 30s they would make it themselves and get the full profit margins from it. What makes you think they'll let you get a single cent in that deal? Indian delusions at the best.

We would have sold our first batch of Su30s to any one we wished , but we dont want to take the head ache and we gave the job of selling to Russia . Russia wont mind if we give Super Mki to Vietnam with Brahmos because they are our friends . We dont want profit , we want experience

 

[tvsram1992]

It seems that a lot of Indians here believe that MKI is an indigenous Indian plane. So they can do whatever they want. Its the 2nd most exported military hardware of India, right behind Brahmos that they already have exported to Japan, Vietnam, Taiwan and now Philippine.

Exported to Japan,Taiwan . Wtf are you smoking ? Come out of wet dreams .

 

[tvsram1992]

The dripping sarcasm........

No you increased your post count

 

[tanlixiang28776]

You keep on dreaming . Iam not speaking about awacs . You said flankers have been equipped with AESA . Chinese delusion and photoshopping.

No dreams. Thats a talent only Indians possess. We Make real products

We would have sold our first batch of Su30s to any one we wished , but we dont want to take the head ache and we gave the job of selling to Russia . Russia wont mind if we give Super Mki to Vietnam with Brahmos because they are our friends . We dont want profit , we want experience

You don't get to sell any SU 30s to anyone. That would be a clear violation of the licensed production of SU 30s in India. In case you don't know what license production is it means Russians still gets money from every SU 30 India makes. License production also means every single SU 30 still comes with Russian terms on how it is used. It also means you can not produce a single aircraft that Russia does not specifically license.Unless Russians let you produce Su 30s for Vietnam or Phillipines you can not do so without breaking license restrictions. So no you could not have " sold our fist batch of su 30's to anyone we wish". This is a wishful statement based on delusions not reality.

 

[tvsram1992]

No dreams. Thats a talent only Indians possess. We Make real products

You don't get to sell any SU 30s to anyone. That would be a clear violation of the licensed production of SU 30s in India. In case you don't know what license production is it means Russians still gets money from every SU 30 India makes. License production also means every single SU 30 still comes with Russian terms on how it is used. It also means you can not produce a single aircraft that Russia does not specifically license.Unless Russians let you produce Su 30s for Vietnam or Phillipines you can not do so without breaking license restrictions. So no you could not have " sold our fist batch of su 30's to anyone we wish". This is a wishful statement based on delusions not reality.

You said flankers are equipped already But we will not violate licence . I mean our super 30s will be produced by Russia , to get experience we will produce some such aircrafts for vietnam . As i already said we wont get any profits its for experience .

 

[tanlixiang28776]

You said flankers are equipped already But we will not violate licence . I mean our super 30s will be produced by Russia , to get experience we will produce some such aircrafts for vietnam . As i already said we wont get any profits its for experience .

The Chinese military reveals military developments far after they have already been accomplished. The J 10 was revealed 7 full years after its induction into service with the PLAAF. Even now we do not know its full specs.

The fact that we have documents for the testing of AESA means they have been integrated a long time ago.

As for India producing Su 30s for Vietnam what makes you believe this beside irrational delusions? Russia has allowed no one to sell its SU 30 aircraft besides it self. Russia has excess production capabilities in aircraft. Why on earth would they allow others to sell aircraft they have rights to? Your theory is beyond imbecilic and delusional.

 

[rashtriya.rifles]

The Chinese military reveals military developments far after they have already been accomplished. The J 10 was revealed 7 full years after its induction into service with the PLAAF. Even now we do not know its full specs.

That does not stop u ppl from chest thumping though..

 

[SP!TF!R3]

LoL with what?

China has had airborne AESA platforms since 2003. They are in service on 5 KJ 2000 Early warning aircraft, 8 KJ 200 ones and are equipping figters as we speak. What is delusional are Indians clearly refuse to believe 9 year old news .

As for the SU 30s Russia allows India to produce them fr their own use. Never have they allowed you to sell them on their behalf.
Even if they were to sell Su 30s they would make it themselves and get the full profit margins from it. What makes you think they'll let you get a single cent in that deal? Indian delusions at the best.

he was talking about su-30..it has pesa radar,not aesa.

 

[Battle of Bach Dang River]

You don't get to sell any SU 30s to anyone. That would be a clear violation of the licensed production of SU 30s in India. In case you don't know what license production is it means Russians still gets money from every SU 30 India makes. License production also means every single SU 30 still comes with Russian terms on how it is used. It also means you can not produce a single aircraft that Russia does not specifically license.Unless Russians let you produce Su 30s for Vietnam or Phillipines you can not do so without breaking license restrictions. So no you could not have " sold our fist batch of su 30's to anyone we wish". This is a wishful statement based on delusions not reality.

Keep your theory.
Russia-India-Vietnam is a special relationship.
An example for you, India has agreed to sell 15 BrahMos missiles for VN
They will be equipped for Su30s in Vietnam to protect the East Sea (SCS).

 

[tvsram1992]

The Chinese military reveals military developments far after they have already been accomplished. The J 10 was revealed 7 full years after its induction into service with the PLAAF. Even now we do not know its full specs.
The fact that we have documents for the testing of AESA means they have been integrated a long time ago.
As for India producing Su 30s for Vietnam what makes you believe this beside irrational delusions? Russia has allowed no one to sell its SU 30 aircraft besides it self. Russia has excess production capabilities in aircraft. Why on earth would they allow others to sell aircraft they have rights to? Your theory is beyond imbecilic and delusional.

That proves your military and govt keeps you in delusion . Dont think that your planes are super just because they specs are not known or some thing . Also you know your military will hide any aircraft crashes . We share a special relation ship which you wont understand . Whats not possible ? What could Russia do when Varyarg was sold to China ? We can sell our Mkis to Vietnam if we like but we those aircrafts will be produced under license , not copies like you .

Keep your theory.
Russia-India-Vietnam is a special relationship.
An example for you, India has agreed to sell 15 BrahMos missiles for VN
They will be equipped for Su30s in Vietnam to protect the East Sea (SCS).

Why only 15 brother ? You gave berthing rights for IN . You can get more Brahmos because of our special relation ship . Even if you feel its too expensive , we will pay for you in return with military deals and oil exploration deals . That would be win win situation .

 

[Secur]

That proves your military and govt keeps you in delusion . Dont think that your planes are super just because they specs are not known or some thing . Also you know your military will hide any aircraft crashes . We share a special relation ship which you wont understand . Whats not possible ? What could Russia do when Varyarg was sold to China ? We can sell our Mkis to Vietnam if we like but we those aircrafts will be produced under license , not copies like you .

Nah , just to keep enemies in dark so to keep them guessing ... How much has the USAF revealed about B2 and Raptor ? Or somehow not everybody likes a naked parade of their defense equipment like India informing the enemies about major details of the weapon ?

Do you think your planes are super just because they have some customized western avionics which is a norm ?

J 10 has crashed only 5-6 times since its induction , dont get me started comparing it with IAF world record

Keep crying about information ban and democracy

Special relationship ? I told you guys not to count your chickens before they hatch when you started jumping up and down hearing the news that ONGC has decided to explore oil in SCS ... You made all sorts of hypothetical scenarios about selling this and that to Vietnam , how the IN would escort and protect the ships ... But what happened in the end ?

"You backed off from the project "


Or are you living under the rock thinking ONGC is still continuing with the project ? It was better to abandon your friend Vietnam than to piss China , because the latter would have had dire consequences ...

The only thing you guys are good at is talking big , since you cant even make a single aircraft yourself and talk about exceeding the West in electronics warfare tech and Atleast they can make copies whilst you struggle with your disastrous INSAS ...

 

[qwerrty]

forget exporting to vietnam. the indian su-30s are building from knock-down kits imported from russia, only minor components are locally made like paint and screws..
indians have license production of mig-21 since the 60's, but they nearly destroy all their mig-21s due to badly made parts by indians. so, even if they can export out from indian factory..i wouldn't worry too much..

IAF's sourcing spares for MIG planes from outside Russia "wrong": Envoy
PTI
New Delhi, March 26, 2012
First Published: 21:59 IST(26/3/2012)
Last Updated: 22:01 IST(26/3/2012)
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Indian Air Force's efforts to procure spare parts for its Soviet-era aircraft from global market were "wrong" and after using these "fake" equipment, the service should not be surprised if its fighter jets meet with accidents, Russia said on Monday.
"It is wrong as all those spare
parts are fake. For MiG and other planes, you need authentic parts, And then you are surprised why your planes fall because spare parts are bought from unauthorised sources," Russian Ambassador to India Alexander Kadakin told reporters in New Delhi.

He was asked to comment on India's efforts to procure spares for Russian-origin equipment from global vendors.
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