Religious identity of Pakistanis stronger than other peoples

[Nalini]

Pakistan & Israel is the only two countries which was created in the name or religion. Both came to existence around the same time. But if you look at Israel it's no comparison in terms of land size or population size of Pakistan. They have had more problems than Pakistan. They also were dependent on aid in the beginning.

Today the economy of Israel is technologically advanced by global standards. Israel ranks in the top 18 nations in the world on the UN's Human Development Index, which places it in the category of "Very Highly Developed" — the highest ranked in the Middle East, and even surpassing European countries such as Austria, France and Finland.

Unlike Pakistan, The overseas Jew donations, aid money & proceeds from all the sources was invested in industrial and agricultural development projects, which allowed Israel to become economically self-sufficient. I am not saying Israel is right model, but what I am trying to say is though they also had many challenges & was created on religion & recieved aid, being a much smaller country they focused on Education, Economy & development. They are self sufficient & Export oriented country today.

Smaller Bangladesh has more reserves & growth than pakistan. This proves over obsession of Religion will only bring failure & destruction. If you had used all the aid money for development Pakistan would be self sufficient with more respect.

Better late than never. Religion is waste of time. It will only take you down the destruction lane. That's reason many Muslims in non Islamic countries are becoming atheists or giving neutral names to their children & distancing them from religion for growth, prosperity & a peaceful life. They are able to enjoy life like any other normal person.

Shed the Religious & Terrorist identity & create a Economic & peaceful identity.

 

[WaLeEdK2]

You kids ever been to Pakistan?

As for my thoughts, see my signature. Ah and another thing to convey my thoughts.

Good. Keeping running and never look back.

Born n raised in Pakistan.

 

[Reichsmarschall]

Shed the Religious & Terrorist identity

If being muslim is terrorism then i am Proud Terrorist

 

[ebrahym]

Today the economy of Israel is technologically advanced by global standards. Israel ranks in the top 18 nations in the world on the UN's Human Development Index, which places it in the category of "Very Highly Developed" — the highest ranked in the Middle East, and even surpassing European countries such as Austria, France and Finland.

most of isrealites came from europe
we were granted with the illustrate and hungry ones
see the difference

Smaller Bangladesh has more reserves & growth than pakistan. This proves over obsession of Religion will only bring failure & destruction. If you had used all the aid money for development Pakistan would be self sufficient with more respect

bangladesh is based on ethnicity and most of them there are still muslims

Better late than never. Religion is waste of time. It will only take you down the destruction lane. That's reason many Muslims in non Islamic countries are becoming atheists or giving neutral names to their children & distancing them from religion for growth, prosperity & a peaceful life. They are able to enjoy life like any other normal person

tell that to your countrymen first sir we see how they are protecting cows there
on topic........... no Islam is the only thing holding this country together or else we would have been scattered into balkan states

 

[Luffy 500]

Alhamdulillah for pakistan. The fact than pakistanis understand that secular nationalism is evil and kufr is something Pakistani muslims should be proud off. Its indeed by Allah (swt) mercy that Pakistanis think in such a lofty way.

Good to see 49% turks also consider them muslim first. Surprisingly this is the exact same % that votes for AKP. This number increased over last 4 decades of islamic political activism in turkey. There is indeed an islamic revival in turkey by the grace of Allah(swt).

 

[Azad-Kashmiri]

Probably do so for Canada, please spare Pakistan from this. Imaan means imaan for self, not deciding the imaan for others.

From sharia point of view what @WaLeEdK2 has said is correct. What does it matter if he's in Canda, or in any other Christendom country? Look at what he says and not judge who or where he is. Btw what you state is nifaq! Iman means faith (aqeedah) and it encompasses actions based on belief.

 

[barbarosa]

Islamic law is ban in the Muslim countries but Christianity is a live and in action in the shape of secularism.

 

[Azad-Kashmiri]

barkat of ulema? which ones? Maulana aziz? maulana sherani? maulana fazl?

funny.

Deen is a personal matter while nationalism is collective one. In my personal opinion it is nationalism that is held above when there is any testing times

When the time comes the secularists and the so called nationalists and fake patriots will be running the other way. Only Allah fearing go forth and never look back.

Muslims:
pray 5X to remember Allah; your PURPOSE in life,
give Zakat so the heart is not attached to the world,
fast in ramadhan to experience hunger and patience,

All of the above are to train you.

 

[cloud4000]

These opinion polls are testament to the commitment of the Pakistani people to our deen. Our rejection of nationalism and secularism being stronger than many other Muslim peoples is no mere coincidence but is a barkat of our ulema (Pakistan is said to have the largest number of ulema in the world) from Allah and the faiz of the one million shaheeds who gave their lives for Pakistan's creation in 1947.

Thoughts?

Pakistan just celebrated its independence day. They are many who call themselves Pakistani nationalists. Islam is Pakistan's ideology. So can you be both Islamic and a Pakistani nationalist? Isn't there a contradiction?

 

[Spring Onion]

When the time comes the secularists and the so called nationalists and fake patriots will be running the other way. Only Allah fearing go forth and never look back.

who is a fake patriot?

and oh BTW we have seen all Muslims, Christians, Hindus, Sikhs and other Pakistanis stood together in testing times.
Do not twist facts by using words like secularist

Muslims:
pray 5X to remember Allah; your PURPOSE in life,
give Zakat so the heart is not attached to the world,
fast in ramadhan to experience hunger and patience,

All of the above are to train you.

Nothing to do with nationalism.

Pakistan just celebrated its independence day. They are many who call themselves Pakistani nationalists. Islam is Pakistan's ideology. So can you be both Islamic and a Pakistani nationalist? Isn't there a contradiction?

No contradiction but looking at things and definition of nationalism according Indians majority specially supporters of BJP and other Hindu religious outfits you are justified to question

 

[Providence]

humans have always used something or other to define their identity. Few use language, few use rituals, few use religion, few use skin color etc etc. Now pakistan just chose to define their identity with religion.

There's nothing to be proud of neither anything to loath.

 

[Azad-Kashmiri]

who is a fake patriot?

The fake are the ones who are making the loudest noise of being Pakistani and have financial interests abroad. The fake are the ones who instructions from foreigners to kill their own and are rewarded and yet, IOK is burning. The fakes are numerous to mention.

and oh BTW we have seen all Muslims, Christians, Hindus, Sikhs and other Pakistanis stood together in testing times.

We're still going through testing times, so what stance do you speak off? Were anyone other than Muslims involved in Kargil at the behest of commander coward ghair-Musharaf.

Do not twist facts by using words like secularist

Well...I don't like them!

 

[Lycurgus.]

Pakistan & Israel is the only two countries which was created in the name or religion. Both came to existence around the same time. But if you look at Israel it's no comparison in terms of land size or population size of Pakistan. They have had more problems than Pakistan. They also were dependent on aid in the beginning.

Today the economy of Israel is technologically advanced by global standards. Israel ranks in the top 18 nations in the world on the UN's Human Development Index, which places it in the category of "Very Highly Developed" — the highest ranked in the Middle East, and even surpassing European countries such as Austria, France and Finland.

Unlike Pakistan, The overseas Jew donations, aid money & proceeds from all the sources was invested in industrial and agricultural development projects, which allowed Israel to become economically self-sufficient. I am not saying Israel is right model, but what I am trying to say is though they also had many challenges & was created on religion & recieved aid, being a much smaller country they focused on Education, Economy & development. They are self sufficient & Export oriented country today.

Smaller Bangladesh has more reserves & growth than pakistan. This proves over obsession of Religion will only bring failure & destruction. If you had used all the aid money for development Pakistan would be self sufficient with more respect.

Better late than never. Religion is waste of time. It will only take you down the destruction lane. That's reason many Muslims in non Islamic countries are becoming atheists or giving neutral names to their children & distancing them from religion for growth, prosperity & a peaceful life. They are able to enjoy life like any other normal person.

Shed the Religious & Terrorist identity & create a Economic & peaceful identity.

Biggest piece of BS i've read on this forum. You're not even muslim. And i suspect that you're not a pakistani either.

 

[cloud4000]

No contradiction but looking at things and definition of nationalism according Indians majority specially supporters of BJP and other Hindu religious outfits you are justified to question

Pakistan is officially an Islamic state. India is not a Hindu Rastra, no matter what certain BJP-types or RSS may think. There is no contradiction in India, unlike Pakistan. Nationalism is inimical to Islam, so how can these two exist together?

 

[Genghis khan1]

Suits well a person sitting in US.

No my fault, you didn't get the visa . Pakistan problem is not the foreign threat but the idiots living in it. It is because of the mentality like yours, there are thousand of highly qualified Pakistanis abroad on par with A.Q Khan or Quaid-e-Azam that don't wanna come back.