So, Pakistani nationalism and religious nationalism are same?
Yes it is; we derive our nationalism on the basis of religion.
If this is the case, Pakistan should be opened to every muslim with no travel documents. This cannot happen.
There is difference between Islamic nationalism and a full-out Islamic state. Even then, 10% of the world's refugees are in Pakistan and another 10-15% of Pakistanis are descendants of past refugees/migrants.
This was the reason why some so called ulemas objected to Pakistan's creation as they said
Yes, those same "Ulemas" are being; lynched for eating beef, slaughtered in massacres and treated as second class citizens.
Islam cannot be confined to a geographical territory.
No it cannot, but an Islamic country can.
Sir, your problem is that Pakistan's founding fathers had completely a different idea of islam in Pakistan.
Allama Iqbal and Quaid said, NO to theocracy.
“Who am I to give you a constitution? The prophet of Islam had given us a constitution 1,300 years ago. We have to simply follow and implement it, and based on it we have to establish in our state Islam’s great system of governance.” ~ Muhammad Ali Jinnah
If you call God & he comes to save you, when your family life & house is at stake, then I can accept God & religion should come first.
That is not Islam. In Islam, this world is just a test for us. If you are loved by Allah, then you will be afflicted with difficulty. This either ends up strengthening his belief or breaking it. These trials will continue until the day when Muslims are only Muslims through name.
"When Allah loves a servant, he tests him" ~ Prophet Muhammad (SAW)
If Pakistan's Islam is greater than nationalism, then why none of the Muslim countries respect you or your approach & deeds.
Of Course they do, we've always received unprecedented support from Islamic countries in all wars and hardships.
Why could Bangladesh not stay together if Islam should be considered higher than nationality.
Because Bangladeshis at that time cared more about their ethnicity than they did about their religion.
Why every country whom you called brother nation like Afghanistan, Iran, Saudi Arabia, UAE treat Pakistanis worse than trash even worse than Indians.
Pakistan has always been in a dispute with Afghanistan who does not accept an internationally-recognized border. Despite all that - Afghan tribes have always taken up arms and rushed to support Pakistan in almost all military conflicts with India.
I see no problem with Iran.
Saudi Arabia and UAE enjoy excellent relations with Pakistan; however
ALL migrant workers are treated badly.
This is a raw proof, if you put your religious interest higher than national interest it will only lead to your destruction.
Not at all; secular Muslim countries like Syria, Iraq, Libya ect... are the ones facing destruction.
he casualty of Arabs were 1:20.
Not even close; the Arab-Israeli wars have cost
24,000
Military Deaths of Israelis
90,000
Civilian and Military Deaths of Arabs (mostly civilians)
Also please note; Israelis were better trained, more experinced, better equipped and geographically at an advantage.
f Islam was greater the God should have come to protect its followers.
We've faced near-extinction multiple times, whether it be the Invasion of Medina, Meccan-Yathrib war, the Mongol Invasions or the Crusades - we've faced through the hardest of times and came back out a hundred times stronger.
Allah afflicts us with hardships to test us.
"Verily, After Hardship Comes Ease" ~ Quran
"...Bear with patience whatever befalls you...." (Qur'an 31:17) and "Be not sad, surely Allah is with us." (Qur'an 9:40)
Our Prophet (pbuh) said: "Verily, if Allah loves a people, He makes them go through trials. Whoever is satisfied, for him is contentment, and whoever is angry upon him is wrath." [Tirmidhi]
Where was he when such a small country brought humiliation to the whole of Middle East. Why most Muslim countries is always in blood & violence. This is what will happen if you are too obsessed with religion.
Islam has been here for 1400 years, what you see as "blood and violence" in the Muslim world; is recent and apart of domino effect created by the Invasion of Iraq. There were 200 estimated terrorists before War on Terror compared to a recent estimate of 250,000.
It has little to do with Islam; much more to do with geopolitical situation and circumstance.
try to build relation with India putting aside all your Islamic obsession
We're ready for relations, we even once offered a pact against China.
The thorn in our relations lies in Kashmir. Until India listens to the demand of Kashmiris then there will always be tension among our two countries.
Time will tell what will happen to Balochistan, Sindh, Karachi & your so called Azad Kashmir.
Then it seems time is with us. Nationalism and patriotic fervour have been surging in the last years - especially in the regions you mentioned.
If you felt Muslims are brothers, you should not have invaded Kashmir. You should have won them over.
We've already won them over.
Have you forgotten, you have lost all wars with India
your fearless soldiers surrendered in front of Indian force in Bangladesh.
They are both fearless and smart. It was better to surrender and fight another day at an advantage.
70 years you have tried to out power India.
We never tried,
we were. For 58 years we've been ahead of India in almost every factors (Pakistan is still ahead in many sections); it was till 2004-2006 that India surpassed us economically. Pakistan's economic growth and other sectors lagged down due to war on Terrorism.
Terrorism is near-defeat and our economy has been growing; with over 100 Billion dollars in investments with a couple-year span.
We are at least 15-17 times bigger economy than yours.
India is 4x larger than us, 8x more populated and has a 6x more economy. Pakistan's GDP per capita and India's GDP per capita (real indicator of wealth) is almost shoulder to shoulder.
That's really sh#t for a country of that size and population.
But what's real is that - there are more street sh#tters in India than the whole population of Pakistan.
India's malnutrition level is more than that of Sub-Saharan Africa.
India has more friends & say in world affairs.
Yes that is why 61 countries support Pakistan's stance on Kashmir. I wonder how many support India's stance?
