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who said decision is revoked sir so are you saying that double Y will not be banned
Rana, Malik get one-year bans, Younis and Yousuf axed from teams
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welll it is getting tricky when they be back no time given is they are banned or not pcb is not giving clear clue once they said they cant play any format and now they can be considered anytime so what is that time
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there is a heavy pressure on PCB. Many selectors took u-turn after criticism and now Mr Butt said we did not ban Yousuf and Younis
all other news are correct but not about Yousuf and Younis
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I dont know how many more summersaults we are yet to see from Mr. Butt. What has this guy done for Pak cricket other than goffing up in press conferences with his bollywood ring tones of his cell, sleeping in important presentations.....
And someone rightly said that what punishment to give to punishers....
And someone rightly said that what punishment to give to punishers....
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Waqar 'shocked' at player punishments
Osman Samiuddin
March 10, 2010
Waqar Younis, Pakistan's incoming coach, has expressed "shock" at the clean-up operation in Pakistan which saw the PCB ban and fine seven leading players. Waqar is due to arrive next week in Lahore from Sydney to take over from Intikhab Alam and prepare Pakistan's defense of the World Twenty20 title in the Caribbean in April-May.
He will arrive now preparing to deal with the repercussions of the board's decision to hand out year-long bans to Rana Naved-ul-Hasan and Shoaib Malik and open-ended ones to Younis Khan and Mohammad Yousuf.
Of immediate concern will be the unavailability of Rana and Malik from the World Twenty20 squad; both have been key performers in the format in the past and Malik was in charge of the side that finished runners-up in the 2007 World Twenty20.
In the longer-term Waqar may well have to do without Younis and Yousuf in the Test side, a worrying prospect for a batting side that has failed to cross 350 more than twice in their last 16 innings, often with both of them present.
"It's a huge shock for me definitely," Waqar told Cricinfo. "I want to speak to the board about it to get more details on it before saying more, but it is definitely a big step."
Waqar was part of the touring set-up in Australia, appointed as a bowling and fielding coach for the series. That was his second stint in a coaching position with the Pakistan side, after spending nearly a year with the team and Bob Woolmer in 2006 as a bowling coach.
Though he has spoken to the chairman since about the tour, he wasn't called to the inquiry committee sittings. According to the PCB's release, he did submit a report which the inquiry took into account.
"It is a big step the board has taken and I hope they have solid evidence for taking the actions that they have taken," Waqar said. "All evidence must be there and they must have spoken to a lot of people for this. Once a player is banned it is a label you have put on him so it is a big thing."
Osman Samiuddin
March 10, 2010
Waqar Younis, Pakistan's incoming coach, has expressed "shock" at the clean-up operation in Pakistan which saw the PCB ban and fine seven leading players. Waqar is due to arrive next week in Lahore from Sydney to take over from Intikhab Alam and prepare Pakistan's defense of the World Twenty20 title in the Caribbean in April-May.
He will arrive now preparing to deal with the repercussions of the board's decision to hand out year-long bans to Rana Naved-ul-Hasan and Shoaib Malik and open-ended ones to Younis Khan and Mohammad Yousuf.
Of immediate concern will be the unavailability of Rana and Malik from the World Twenty20 squad; both have been key performers in the format in the past and Malik was in charge of the side that finished runners-up in the 2007 World Twenty20.
In the longer-term Waqar may well have to do without Younis and Yousuf in the Test side, a worrying prospect for a batting side that has failed to cross 350 more than twice in their last 16 innings, often with both of them present.
"It's a huge shock for me definitely," Waqar told Cricinfo. "I want to speak to the board about it to get more details on it before saying more, but it is definitely a big step."
Waqar was part of the touring set-up in Australia, appointed as a bowling and fielding coach for the series. That was his second stint in a coaching position with the Pakistan side, after spending nearly a year with the team and Bob Woolmer in 2006 as a bowling coach.
Though he has spoken to the chairman since about the tour, he wasn't called to the inquiry committee sittings. According to the PCB's release, he did submit a report which the inquiry took into account.
"It is a big step the board has taken and I hope they have solid evidence for taking the actions that they have taken," Waqar said. "All evidence must be there and they must have spoken to a lot of people for this. Once a player is banned it is a label you have put on him so it is a big thing."
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What of the punishers?
The players have been singled out for punishment, but the managers, selectors and board officials who run the show have sidestepped the mess nicely
Osman Samiuddin
March 10, 2010
Ijaz Butt issues a legal notice to the ICC, Lahore, May 9, 2009
There has been tremendous pressure on the PCB chairman Ijaz Butt to be shown to be doing something © Associated Press
The immediate point that comes to mind is, who gave the PCB the keys to this asylum? The merits and demerits of what is effectively the biggest purge of the Pakistan cricket team in years we will come to shortly but, in effect, the PCB has cleaned up an asylum in which its members are as much inmates as the players.
The basic question that arises, after all, is if the team is racked with unrest, indiscipline and factionalism and is performing so poorly, is it operating within a vacuum? It is not. It is selected by men and run by men, men of the board. If the team is rotten, then are the people who are in charge of running it not the same? The players have been singled out, but the managers, selectors and board officials who run the show have sidestepped the mess nicely.
If you can get beyond that, then there is no questioning that this is the most significant action the PCB has taken in many years against players. In one fell swoop, it has banned three men who captained the side last year. Of them, two have been handed open-ended bans, to be revised at the board's discretion. Another captain has been put on probation for six months and fined, as has the vice-captain of the last tour. Reputations and seniority have not been spared. The Qayyum report was similar, implicating big names, but that was for a graver offence and was shaped globally; on matters such as indiscipline, the actions are unparalleled.
A number of things have fuelled the severity of the punishment. Pressure on the board to do something, anything, has been intense, more so because of its general ineptness and failures elsewhere. It had to be seen to be doing something, and a man can only take so many grillings from parliamentarians.
But such dirt has built up over the last year. Shoaib Malik was removed. Under his replacement Younis Khan, players were forever conspiring. Mohammad Yousuf became captain only to ultimately engage in an open and stupid battle with Malik. The sins of Kamran Akmal and Shahid Afridi were public ones.
Additionally, results have been pathetic. Players' popularity is probably at its lowest in some time, which undoubtedly helped the board in its decision. So steadily, over the years, such a picture of unrest and unruliness, factionalism and unchecked player power has emerged, and such a mood of discontent created, that all dirt had to be swept away. The official board line, that it wants to set an example for future generations, almost doesn't matter. The reaction is mixed: some voices say it had to happen, some say it's too much, as clear an indication as any that there are no heroes here. In fact there are mostly villains.
Trouble lies in the days ahead. Because the punishments are so severe, the reasons behind them must be made clear. The board is not willing to go public with the report, but that will be grave folly. If the PCB is not seen to be transparent in the way it has handled this, its actions have no benefit whatsoever.
Questions will be rightly asked as to the precise factors that led, in particular, to the banning of Rana Naved-ul-Hasan and Malik for a year and of Younis and Yousuf for an indefinite period. That kind of punishment is prompted only by the most serious transgressions and if the board doesn't come totally clean on what led to it, rumour-mongering and gossip over coming days of the worst kind can be expected. That, Pakistan cricket can do without. Already there is confusion; the bans on Yousuf and Younis, the board had to clarify, are open-ended and they can be picked again depending on the board's mood.
Talk of legal action is inevitable; such are the happy days with an empowered judiciary and legal fraternity. In any case it has not been uncommon over the last two years for Pakistani players to take the board to court and it cannot be ruled out here. It will be a waste of time, for even if a court overturns the ban, it cannot force the board to select players.
Nothing is permanent in Pakistan. It is worthwhile to bear in mind the summer of 1976, when a similar battle erupted between board and senior players. It was a petty pay dispute, but it soon flowered into an almighty ménage a trois of ego clashes between the country's prime minister, Zulfiqar Bhutto, a close aide and minister Abdul Hafiz Pirzada and the board chairman AH Kardar.
Kardar sacked six big names, including Imran Khan, before a major tour to Australia. Within days, however, Pirzada - with Bhutto's tacit consent - had taken temporary control of the board, reinstated the players and Kardar fell in a matter of months. Old folks say that marked the beginning of unchecked player power in Pakistan cricket, the rise of the superstar. Some might see 2010 as the end of it.
There are only whiffs in today of what happened 34 years ago - for one, the players then had tremendous public support - but with an administration as bereft of goodwill, public trust and support as this one, nobody will bet against a similar endgame.
The players have been singled out for punishment, but the managers, selectors and board officials who run the show have sidestepped the mess nicely
Osman Samiuddin
March 10, 2010
Ijaz Butt issues a legal notice to the ICC, Lahore, May 9, 2009
There has been tremendous pressure on the PCB chairman Ijaz Butt to be shown to be doing something © Associated Press
The immediate point that comes to mind is, who gave the PCB the keys to this asylum? The merits and demerits of what is effectively the biggest purge of the Pakistan cricket team in years we will come to shortly but, in effect, the PCB has cleaned up an asylum in which its members are as much inmates as the players.
The basic question that arises, after all, is if the team is racked with unrest, indiscipline and factionalism and is performing so poorly, is it operating within a vacuum? It is not. It is selected by men and run by men, men of the board. If the team is rotten, then are the people who are in charge of running it not the same? The players have been singled out, but the managers, selectors and board officials who run the show have sidestepped the mess nicely.
If you can get beyond that, then there is no questioning that this is the most significant action the PCB has taken in many years against players. In one fell swoop, it has banned three men who captained the side last year. Of them, two have been handed open-ended bans, to be revised at the board's discretion. Another captain has been put on probation for six months and fined, as has the vice-captain of the last tour. Reputations and seniority have not been spared. The Qayyum report was similar, implicating big names, but that was for a graver offence and was shaped globally; on matters such as indiscipline, the actions are unparalleled.
A number of things have fuelled the severity of the punishment. Pressure on the board to do something, anything, has been intense, more so because of its general ineptness and failures elsewhere. It had to be seen to be doing something, and a man can only take so many grillings from parliamentarians.
But such dirt has built up over the last year. Shoaib Malik was removed. Under his replacement Younis Khan, players were forever conspiring. Mohammad Yousuf became captain only to ultimately engage in an open and stupid battle with Malik. The sins of Kamran Akmal and Shahid Afridi were public ones.
Additionally, results have been pathetic. Players' popularity is probably at its lowest in some time, which undoubtedly helped the board in its decision. So steadily, over the years, such a picture of unrest and unruliness, factionalism and unchecked player power has emerged, and such a mood of discontent created, that all dirt had to be swept away. The official board line, that it wants to set an example for future generations, almost doesn't matter. The reaction is mixed: some voices say it had to happen, some say it's too much, as clear an indication as any that there are no heroes here. In fact there are mostly villains.
Trouble lies in the days ahead. Because the punishments are so severe, the reasons behind them must be made clear. The board is not willing to go public with the report, but that will be grave folly. If the PCB is not seen to be transparent in the way it has handled this, its actions have no benefit whatsoever.
Questions will be rightly asked as to the precise factors that led, in particular, to the banning of Rana Naved-ul-Hasan and Malik for a year and of Younis and Yousuf for an indefinite period. That kind of punishment is prompted only by the most serious transgressions and if the board doesn't come totally clean on what led to it, rumour-mongering and gossip over coming days of the worst kind can be expected. That, Pakistan cricket can do without. Already there is confusion; the bans on Yousuf and Younis, the board had to clarify, are open-ended and they can be picked again depending on the board's mood.
Talk of legal action is inevitable; such are the happy days with an empowered judiciary and legal fraternity. In any case it has not been uncommon over the last two years for Pakistani players to take the board to court and it cannot be ruled out here. It will be a waste of time, for even if a court overturns the ban, it cannot force the board to select players.
Nothing is permanent in Pakistan. It is worthwhile to bear in mind the summer of 1976, when a similar battle erupted between board and senior players. It was a petty pay dispute, but it soon flowered into an almighty ménage a trois of ego clashes between the country's prime minister, Zulfiqar Bhutto, a close aide and minister Abdul Hafiz Pirzada and the board chairman AH Kardar.
Kardar sacked six big names, including Imran Khan, before a major tour to Australia. Within days, however, Pirzada - with Bhutto's tacit consent - had taken temporary control of the board, reinstated the players and Kardar fell in a matter of months. Old folks say that marked the beginning of unchecked player power in Pakistan cricket, the rise of the superstar. Some might see 2010 as the end of it.
There are only whiffs in today of what happened 34 years ago - for one, the players then had tremendous public support - but with an administration as bereft of goodwill, public trust and support as this one, nobody will bet against a similar endgame.
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Pakistan cricket crackdown 'five years too late'
By Rishad Mahmood
Sports editor, Dawn newspaper
Pakistani cricket is at a crossroads once again.
The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB), headed by former Test cricketer Ijaz Butt, finally woke up from a deep slumber on Wednesday to dish out unprecedented penalties to a number of leading cricketers.
In what is seen as a landmark disciplinary action following last December's disastrous tour of Australia, ex-skippers Younus Khan and Mohammad Yousuf were barred from the national team indefinitely, while one-year bans were given to senior all-rounders Shoaib Malik and Rana Naved-ul-Hasan for poor conduct.
Heavy fines were imposed on Shahid Afridi for ball tampering and Kamran Akmal and brother Umar for flouting rules and obstinate behaviour during the tour.
All the players have the right to appeal against their punishment.
Player power
The Australian tour debacle was, indeed, the last straw for Pakistani cricket, which has been grappling with a range of problems of late.
The indiscipline culture is so well entrenched in the team that any half-hearted move could jeopardise the country's future in the game.
These include cancelled home series due to security fears, the 2009 terror attack on the Sri Lankan team in Lahore, the IPL snub, the growing menace of player power and the thorny issue of the captaincy.
Against this backdrop, Wednesday's decisions have been widely hailed by fans and former cricketers alike - with only a few complaining of a "harsh" verdict. There is much applause, too, for the PCB officials for a rare show of spine while calls for wholesale changes are deafening.
But while the motives behind the decisions are laudable, the haphazard manner in which they are likely to be carried out could see Pakistani cricket sink deeper into the quagmire.
Many experts of the game believe that the verdict has come five years too late. A similar crackdown in 2005-06, they feel, could have yielded far-reaching results.
Then, Inzamam-ul-Haq and his followers were making the PCB dance to their beat, selecting their "favoured lot" match-after-match, at the expense of the hapless selectors, and equally undermining the authority of a high-profile foreign coach, the late Bob Woolmer.
Those were the initial indicators of a re-emergence of player power and needed to be nipped in the bud.
'Tough cops'
The PCB, however, never known for its prompt actions, continued to tolerate it and that finally culminated in the country's shameful campaign at the 2007 World Cup in the Caribbean, tragically marred by Woolmer's death.
Yousuf, Younis, Malik, Afridi and Akmal were all an integral part of the squad then and witnessed their predecessors getting away with a lot worse than that which they are accused of today.
Since then, while their talents have been obvious for all to see, people have often questioned their value to Pakistani cricket.
The rampant controversies, their ugly tussle over the captaincy, and the no-holds barred arguments with the team management have not only hurt Pakistani cricket, they have also in some way influenced younger players, leading to the flop Down Under.
There's no doubt that bad governance from politically motivated, less-than-competent cricket board officials has also contributed hugely to the current cricket scenario.
More often than not, it has been the PCB heads themselves - including Lt Gen Tauqir Zia, Shaharyar Khan, Dr Nasim Ashraf and now Ijaz Butt - who have made monsters out of level-headed, talented players like Inzamam-ul-Haq, Yousuf, Shoaib Akhtar, Afridi and many others.
And although Ijaz Butt and Co have suddenly decided to play tough cops, the indiscipline culture is so well entrenched in the team that any half-hearted move could jeopardise the country's future in the game.
The first big international assignment ahead is the World Twenty20 in the West Indies, scheduled for late April and May. The much-hyped campaign for the defending champions is bound to be affected by today's decisions, unless the PCB is prepared to conduct a complete overhaul.
With the emergence of a number of talented under-19 players - Hammad Azam, Mohammad Waqas and Raza Hassan - coupled with young talents like Mohammad Aamir, Umar Akmal and others, Pakistan could still do well, provided those who have been penalised are not allowed to take control once again.
BBC News - Pakistan cricket crackdown 'five years too late'
By Rishad Mahmood
Sports editor, Dawn newspaper
Pakistani cricket is at a crossroads once again.
The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB), headed by former Test cricketer Ijaz Butt, finally woke up from a deep slumber on Wednesday to dish out unprecedented penalties to a number of leading cricketers.
In what is seen as a landmark disciplinary action following last December's disastrous tour of Australia, ex-skippers Younus Khan and Mohammad Yousuf were barred from the national team indefinitely, while one-year bans were given to senior all-rounders Shoaib Malik and Rana Naved-ul-Hasan for poor conduct.
Heavy fines were imposed on Shahid Afridi for ball tampering and Kamran Akmal and brother Umar for flouting rules and obstinate behaviour during the tour.
All the players have the right to appeal against their punishment.
Player power
The Australian tour debacle was, indeed, the last straw for Pakistani cricket, which has been grappling with a range of problems of late.
The indiscipline culture is so well entrenched in the team that any half-hearted move could jeopardise the country's future in the game.
These include cancelled home series due to security fears, the 2009 terror attack on the Sri Lankan team in Lahore, the IPL snub, the growing menace of player power and the thorny issue of the captaincy.
Against this backdrop, Wednesday's decisions have been widely hailed by fans and former cricketers alike - with only a few complaining of a "harsh" verdict. There is much applause, too, for the PCB officials for a rare show of spine while calls for wholesale changes are deafening.
But while the motives behind the decisions are laudable, the haphazard manner in which they are likely to be carried out could see Pakistani cricket sink deeper into the quagmire.
Many experts of the game believe that the verdict has come five years too late. A similar crackdown in 2005-06, they feel, could have yielded far-reaching results.
Then, Inzamam-ul-Haq and his followers were making the PCB dance to their beat, selecting their "favoured lot" match-after-match, at the expense of the hapless selectors, and equally undermining the authority of a high-profile foreign coach, the late Bob Woolmer.
Those were the initial indicators of a re-emergence of player power and needed to be nipped in the bud.
'Tough cops'
The PCB, however, never known for its prompt actions, continued to tolerate it and that finally culminated in the country's shameful campaign at the 2007 World Cup in the Caribbean, tragically marred by Woolmer's death.
Yousuf, Younis, Malik, Afridi and Akmal were all an integral part of the squad then and witnessed their predecessors getting away with a lot worse than that which they are accused of today.
Since then, while their talents have been obvious for all to see, people have often questioned their value to Pakistani cricket.
The rampant controversies, their ugly tussle over the captaincy, and the no-holds barred arguments with the team management have not only hurt Pakistani cricket, they have also in some way influenced younger players, leading to the flop Down Under.
There's no doubt that bad governance from politically motivated, less-than-competent cricket board officials has also contributed hugely to the current cricket scenario.
More often than not, it has been the PCB heads themselves - including Lt Gen Tauqir Zia, Shaharyar Khan, Dr Nasim Ashraf and now Ijaz Butt - who have made monsters out of level-headed, talented players like Inzamam-ul-Haq, Yousuf, Shoaib Akhtar, Afridi and many others.
And although Ijaz Butt and Co have suddenly decided to play tough cops, the indiscipline culture is so well entrenched in the team that any half-hearted move could jeopardise the country's future in the game.
The first big international assignment ahead is the World Twenty20 in the West Indies, scheduled for late April and May. The much-hyped campaign for the defending champions is bound to be affected by today's decisions, unless the PCB is prepared to conduct a complete overhaul.
With the emergence of a number of talented under-19 players - Hammad Azam, Mohammad Waqas and Raza Hassan - coupled with young talents like Mohammad Aamir, Umar Akmal and others, Pakistan could still do well, provided those who have been penalised are not allowed to take control once again.
BBC News - Pakistan cricket crackdown 'five years too late'
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The problem we have is due to fact we had too many captains in short time , and its the problem of board that created so many captains in such short time frame.
Australia they had same captain from good knows when ... so they do not have such issues.
Also , the second issue is it was the PCB who appointed Malik a Younger guy to be the captain for the world cup the same world cup he is now excluded from what is the logic in that ?
Rana Naved he played superbly in local cricket final 20/20 he was a beast in finals ... and he got banned
Umar Akmal's mysterious injury deserved 3-4 match ban as punishment
Kamran Akmal is not completely bad player but he also needs 3-4 matches off ....
Don't know why Yousif / Yonis were thrown in for the kill ???
Younis Khan just won us teh 20/20 finals and he was not even in the team , Yousif , demanded that younis khan be back due to his experience in test cricket ...
Waqar also stressed he wants to focus on test team , and he needs the senior players...
Some people do not want Waqar to succeed , so they already took out all the talanted players from team ..
Strangely
Rana Naved, Malik , Kamran Akmal, Umar Akmal all play in Sialkot stalions that won the national 20/20 cup just this past sunday or so
I mean 2 match suspension is normal .... like 40,000$ from players is silly ...
The other day they stole 80,000$ from Shoib Aktar a guy on payrol , legally and just for unknown bans by previous adminsiration its nothing but , plain STEALING money from players !!! under pretext of bans
Australia they had same captain from good knows when ... so they do not have such issues.
Also , the second issue is it was the PCB who appointed Malik a Younger guy to be the captain for the world cup the same world cup he is now excluded from what is the logic in that ?
Rana Naved he played superbly in local cricket final 20/20 he was a beast in finals ... and he got banned
Umar Akmal's mysterious injury deserved 3-4 match ban as punishment
Kamran Akmal is not completely bad player but he also needs 3-4 matches off ....
Don't know why Yousif / Yonis were thrown in for the kill ???
Younis Khan just won us teh 20/20 finals and he was not even in the team , Yousif , demanded that younis khan be back due to his experience in test cricket ...
Waqar also stressed he wants to focus on test team , and he needs the senior players...
Some people do not want Waqar to succeed , so they already took out all the talanted players from team ..
Strangely
Rana Naved, Malik , Kamran Akmal, Umar Akmal all play in Sialkot stalions that won the national 20/20 cup just this past sunday or so
I mean 2 match suspension is normal .... like 40,000$ from players is silly ...
The other day they stole 80,000$ from Shoib Aktar a guy on payrol , legally and just for unknown bans by previous adminsiration its nothing but , plain STEALING money from players !!! under pretext of bans
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so anytime been given when they play
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if younis khan and yousuf kept banned i think we seee worst side of test cricket ever evem if we play zimbabwe we lose against them our batting is been our weaknesss without these two it is impossible we have seen when yousuf was not playing how many matches pakistan lost becoz of batting and if pcb counting on misbah it is their mistake
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Yes somehow i agree with you
Agreed
Yes considering the situation it was a wise decision. Malik was in great form those days while other players like Afridi and Razzaq was at their worst form
Rana Naved he played superbly in local cricket final 20/20 he was a beast in finals ... and he got banned
Yes he is playing superbly in domestic matches but he could perform at International Level. Also the reason why he is ban is probably due to the match fixing allegation. Nothing is confirmed about the reason why he was banned, wait for more news about Rana
Agreed
He deserved the punishment for grouping with Malik and playing bad in third test and also the match fixing allegations could prove right. I believe PCB took the decision considering those allegations also
Younis had let down the whole team and the country on many ocassions and Yousuf was involved in grouping and allegations on Malik. He should never come on tv and accuse players openly. He also deserved punishment however i feel banning him indefinitely is little bit harsh and now Butt has given another statement that Yousuf and Younis both have not been banned.
Yes agree but both of them had poor performance in their recent series so droppoing them for now is not a bad idea. Let them bring their confidence back from domestic tournaments before they are ready for selection once again
Yes agreed
Some people do not want Waqar to succeed , so they already took out all the talanted players from team ..
May be you are right
No thats wrong, Umar Akmal and Kamran Akmal were playing for Lahore.
Do you know how much they earn? they make good money and if they deserve punishment they should also be charged good money otherwise paying little amount won't effect them at all.
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i think ejaz buttt should be banned for me he is creating too many disasters for the team and image of pakistan cricket
