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A good move . rather then drawing lines for category of weapons, decision is appreciable, will impact in many good way in long run
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But the new presidential helicopter is European. So is the new trainer for the AF the T-6 Texas is a swiss design.. the Navy trains with derivatives of the Hawk Trainer and so on and on.
It is necessary for the survival of Pakistani defence Industries,Pakistani forces will be stopped by government to import those things which are being produced by Pakistani factories weather in POF or Taxila or Karachi Shipyard or Kamra they will have to only rely on these factories for those products for others they can buy from other countries
Dude, how old are you? 60 something?Most Helicopters we have in all three branches are of European origin. Since we don't Manufacture a Civilian Helicopter in Pakistan, there is no harm in Presidential Helicopter being bought from Europe.
And what is this comment about new Trainer T-6 Texas - Swiss Design ?
T-6 is a very old trainer that PAF used from 1947 to 1980's. They were warehoused after the Mashak entered service as a trainer at the PAF Academy.
I trained on T-6 Texan in 1969 in Pakistan air Force and NO IT IS NOT OF SWISS DESIGN. T-6 Texan was produced in 1940's by an American Aircraft Manufacturer called " North American " and it had a 600 Horsepower Pratt and Whitney Engine (also an American Company ), so I have no idea what you are talking about. You are not making a whole lot of sense. Check out the link below:
North American T-6 Texan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Unless you are referring to T-6 Texan II which is manufactured by Beechcraft and is a totally different trainer aircraft with no relationship to original T-6 trainer. And yes , Texan II was inspired by Pilatus PC-9 Swiss Trainer an older version of which is used by Indian Air Force ( i.e. Pilatus PC-7 ).
Beechcraft T-6 Texan II - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Also, I have not heard anything about PAF purchasing T-6 Texan II or Plans on purchasing this trainer aircraft in future. lf you have any link on such purchase , please do share with us.
I agree, at the end it all come down to the good old wallet. But i'd like to stress here that the future soldier program is not all about having massive firepower rather it is about about having a precise one with the emphasis being laid upon on having better situational awareness.It's still essentially the same rifle, Pakistan really needs to move away from the G-3 and start thinking of replacing the rifle, because the next generation of warfare is clearly heading towards smart rifles and future soldier programs. If things stay the way they are, nations like India will soon outclass Pakistani equipment down to the single infantry soldier.
Either privatize these industries or run them as privatized ones.It also means that the Military will give them danda to improve innovation and quality which means a better R&D culture.
I agree, at the end it all come down to the good old wallet. But i'd like to stress here that the future soldier program is not all about having massive firepower rather it is about about having a precise one with the emphasis being laid upon on having better situational awareness.
Either privatize these industries or run them as privatized ones.
well then the army better start developing higher tech weapons i think its a good decision.That doesn't sound encouraging !
Promoting Indigenous Production shouldn't come at the cost of forcing the State Security Apparatus to acquire, possibly, sub-standard equipment just because its Made in Pakistan !
its a very good decision.
Pakistani forces will be stopped by government to import those things which are being produced by Pakistani factories weather in POF or Taxila or Karachi Shipyard or Kamra they will have to only rely on these factories for those products for others they can buy from other countries
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well look at china now.China had to stop importing cause EU and US won't sell them. Still no one knows the quality of chinese systems other then wannabies and chinese armed forces. ANd pakistan is going to stop imports cause u not hv money to pay for. Dont make one liners quote plz.
who cares if main sahib are investing in the military industry of pakistan?On the surface it appears to be a good move provided the locally manufactured stuff is equivalent or better in quality to the imported one.
However, i wont take any proposal from current corrupt regime without a pinch of salt, no matter how good it appears on the surface.
I begin to wonder if Mian saheban and Samdhi saheb (Dar) planning to invest in military hardware business, and this rule is introduced to protect their investment in part.
Lets not forget the local auto industry fiasco. It was introduced (almost 30 or so years ago, if not mistaking) to protect local auto industry, and it resulted only in extremely expensive locally assembled cars as well as the imported ones. Few made (and still making) billions, and average pakistani paid the price. Neither we saw a locally designed and produced car, nor did the prices came down.
pakistan already created a fighter and tank program and we are well ahead of india in it.Not a good step in my view. This will reduce the quality of equipment procured. Instead Pakistan should initiate a tank and fighter aircraft program like India did in 1980s with proper funding. This will create necessary infrastructure and a couple of decades from now Pakistan can become a defence giant.
This is an irrational step!!
Most Helicopters we have in all three branches are of European origin. Since we don't Manufacture a Civilian Helicopter in Pakistan, there is no harm in Presidential Helicopter being bought from Europe.
And what is this comment about new Trainer T-6 Texas - Swiss Design ?
T-6 is a very old trainer that PAF used from 1947 to 1980's. They were warehoused after the Mashak entered service as a trainer at the PAF Academy.
I trained on T-6 Texan in 1969 in Pakistan air Force and NO IT IS NOT OF SWISS DESIGN. T-6 Texan was produced in 1940's by an American Aircraft Manufacturer called " North American " and it had a 600 Horsepower Pratt and Whitney Engine (also an American Company ), so I have no idea what you are talking about. You are not making a whole lot of sense. Check out the link below:
North American T-6 Texan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Unless you are referring to T-6 Texan II which is manufactured by Beechcraft and is a totally different trainer aircraft with no relationship to original T-6 trainer. And yes , Texan II was inspired by Pilatus PC-9 Swiss Trainer an older version of which is used by Indian Air Force ( i.e. Pilatus PC-7 ).
Beechcraft T-6 Texan II - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Also, I have not heard anything about PAF purchasing T-6 Texan II or Plans on purchasing this trainer aircraft in future. lf you have any link on such purchase , please do share with us.
Sir but the kind of equipment we make I don't trust them specially Bullet Proofs and Armored Vehicles the way bullets were going through Mohafiz its really a shameI was referring to the United States in your comment about countries preferring to purchase their own equipment.
Their presidential helicopter is the VH-101(EH-101). Their primary trainer is the T-6II..
It is in many cases. there are comissions involved for many people in both businessmen and serving/retired military officers.Sir but the kind of equipment we make I don't trust them specially Bullet Proofs and Armored Vehicles the way bullets were going through Mohafiz its really a shame