PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

[StructE]

I have read a lot of the posts here and want validation of some conclusions drawn

1) we started the J-10c induction negotiations between 2014-2019

2) we would probably induct around 100-150 j-10c and these will replace the mirage’s SEAD, nava and deep strike role along and f-16 in air dominance roles

3) jf-17 block 2 and 3 will be used as escorts in j-10c strike missions and in CAS roles j-10 c would provide escort

4) induction and Operationalization will take 1-3 years

5) f-16s will be phased out over the next 20 years and would be used for heavy strike and air dominance roles within Pakistani territory.

6) The shelf life of our AMRAM -120 is about to come to an end in the next 5 yers assuming we bought those in 2010 -2015 and a 10 year shelf life

K

Amram's are maintained by US contractor, shelf life is extended as needed.

 

[Beast]

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I was hoping this type of color scheme on J-10CP @PAF please yaar kuch to change kar do

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The current color scheme is best for dogfight. You can have plenty of fanciful military camouflage scheme but they are not practical.

 

[Khan vilatey]

Amram's are maintained by US contractor, shelf life is extended as needed.

i didn’t know you could extend life of AMRAMS without changing critical components like rocket motors etc. the key question is will America give us the spares to continue to maintain these weapons. In the 90s one reason for retreating from kargil was running out of spares for the f-16s

K

 

[KampfAlwin]

J-10CP #22-106. Most definitely a WS-10B engine!

 

[Deino]

J-10CP #22-106. Most definitely a WS-10B engine!
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Yes, there is NO doubt! As such I really don't understand, why @messiach is still telling that strange story of an AL-31F ToT! There is aircraft in PAF service using that engine and it makes simply no sense ...

 

[KampfAlwin]

Yes, there is NO doubt! As such I really don't understand, why @messiach is still telling that strange story of an AL-31F ToT! There is aircraft in PAF service using that engine and it makes simply no sense ...

A bit unrelated, but the fact that a Chinese jet engine is now being exported is a huge sign of things to come for the Chinese aviation industry in the future.

 

[Beast]

J-10CP #22-106. Most definitely a WS-10B engine!
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But the plane is still at Chengdu CAC...

Yes, there is NO doubt! As such I really don't understand, why @messiach is still telling that strange story of an AL-31F ToT! There is aircraft in PAF service using that engine and it makes simply no sense ...

There many so called many fake informer lurking here claiming to be reliable source.

A bit unrelated, but the fact that a Chinese jet engine is now being exported is a huge sign of things to come for the Chinese aviation industry in the future.

True but Chinese has been exporting aircraft with their own engine since the 60s. From F-6, J-7 to even K-8 if requested. I don't think it came as a big surprise.

 

[Sayfullah]

Yes, there is NO doubt! As such I really don't understand, why @messiach is still telling that strange story of an AL-31F ToT! There is aircraft in PAF service using that engine and it makes simply no sense ...

What if PAF is also getting used Chinese Su 35’s and for that it’s getting ToT for MRO facility for AL-31F

 

[Deino]

What if PAF is also getting used Chinese Su 35’s and for that it’s getting ToT for MRO facility for AL-31F

But is this confirmed? And even more the Su-35 does ot use an AL-31F, it's using a vastly different TVC variant based on the AL-31 called the 117S or AL-41F1S. And Russia NEVER will give Pakistan ToT for an engine it did not get from Russian but from China ... unless they agreed.

 

[spectregunship]

What if PAF is also getting used Chinese Su 35’s and for that it’s getting ToT for MRO facility for AL-31F

While I cannot say that the argument is unvalidated... but IMO there is very less chance that we go for SU35 from the Chinese and especially with the current Russo - Ukr conflict.. it does not make sense and it wont be happening for obvious logistical reasons... A lot of effort has gone through in making preparations for inducting J10s and there is laser focus on preparing for post induction steps / procedures... It is my opinion tbh

 

[Dreamer.]

But is this confirmed? And even more the Su-35 does ot use an AL-31F, it's using a vastly different TVC variant based on the AL-31 called the 117S or AL-41F1S. And Russia NEVER will give Pakistan ToT for an engine it did not get from Russian but from China ... unless they agreed.

Oh ok.

 

[NA71]

Now some hrs left... 27/2.... Any update of Possible surprise J10c I induction ceremony on 27/2?

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

 

[Engima Chaudhry]

i didn’t know you could extend life of AMRAMS without changing critical components like rocket motors etc. the key question is will America give us the spares to continue to maintain these weapons. In the 90s one reason for retreating from kargil was running out of spares for the f-16s

K

The propellant has an expiry date. It has to be changed after a certain period.

 

[siegecrossbow]

What if PAF is also getting used Chinese Su 35’s and for that it’s getting ToT for MRO facility for AL-31F

why not TVC equipped lochness monsters as well.