PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

[Dual Wielder]

Watch the skies tommorow

Make sure You don't blink, else you might miss it..

 

[Gripen9]

Which anti radiation missile would be used with the J-10??

YJ-91 which is the Chinese version of Russian Kh-31 ARM.

 

[araz]

We will talk about it in the NGFA thread.

Look forward to your input.
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[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Don't look for the cat's complexion as long as it can catch the mouse....

A single Rafale downed = entire IAF downed = extreme melancholy in Hindutva = if there were F-35s...

 

[Ali_Baba]

The J-10CE is a well-optimized air-to-air fighter with a higher-output AESA radar than the JF-17 Block-3. It now has an asset that can take on practically any current threat in the air. The PAF can also scale its fleet up relatively affordably (compared to competing Western or Russian options).

Agree - the 60 odd J10Cs will face off the 36 Rafales on a 1:1 parity with some extra spares, with a first shot advantage to PAF.

 

[Dreamer.]

The J-10CE is a well-optimized air-to-air fighter with a higher-output AESA radar than the JF-17 Block-3. It now has an asset that can take on practically any current threat in the air. The PAF can also scale its fleet up relatively affordably (compared to competing Western or Russian options).

I always assumed J-10C to have an AESA. But not so sure after reading this thread.
I am surprised to read here that J-10C has an unknown radar that has no name or designation yet.
Do we know ANYTHING about the radar on J-10C at all? It surely should be AESA since even JF-17 has one but how do we know? And how do we know it's better?

 

[GumNaam]

I always assumed J-10C to have an AESA. But not so sure after reading this thread.
I am surprised to read here that J-10C has an unknown radar that has no name or designation yet.
Do we know ANYTHING about the radar on J-10C at all? It surely should be AESA since even JF-17 has one but how do we know? And how do we know it's better?

it is always known to have the KLJ-7A AESA radar with side looking TR modules as well unlike the JF-17 which has the KLJ-7A air cooled AESA and without the side looking TR modules. That's about all that I know...but J-10C indeed has an AESA radar, that much is confirmed.

 

[Dreamer.]

it is always known to have the KLJ-7A AESA radar with side looking TR modules as well unlike the JF-17 which has the KLJ-7A air cooled AESA and without the side looking TR modules. That's about all that I know...but J-10C indeed has an AESA radar, that much is confirmed.

What makes you think that? Doesn't seem likely.

 

[siegecrossbow]

I always assumed J-10C to have an AESA. But not so sure after reading this thread.
I am surprised to read here that J-10C has an unknown radar that has no name or designation yet.
Do we know ANYTHING about the radar on J-10C at all? It surely should be AESA since even JF-17 has one but how do we know? And how do we know it's better?

Pakistan obviously blew money on a completely new airframe with a new engine just to acquire a bird with an inferior radar to the JF-17. Very likely.

 

[Dreamer.]

Pakistan obviously blew money on a completely new airframe with a new engine just to acquire a bird with an inferior radar to the JF-17. Very likely.

You can joke but you should know that I suggested no such thing. I merely asked what do we actually know? Guessworks and conjectures can be infinite. It can be right or wrong but not the same as reliable info.

 

[GumNaam]

What makes you think that? Doesn't seem likely.

 

[serenity]

You can joke but you should know that I suggested no such thing. I merely asked what do we actually know? Guessworks and conjectures can be infinite. It can be right or wrong but not the same as reliable info.

Because J-10B used either a PESA or AESA (it is still uncertain what type and good arguments made for both with some evidence suggesting PESA and some suggesting AESA) either way it is 100% an phased array type radar.

J-10C 100% uses an AESA and it is a different radar to J-10B. This is not only known but also officially said.

JF-17 Block 3 uses AESA. J-10CE offers AESA. How is it possible that PAF would not buy J-10CP/CE with AESA?

Again here I notice more members are confused.

J-10C of PLAAF is probably not using side array type!

It is a misunderstanding that is not helped by Millenium's recent videos on J-10.

J-10C does not use the radar that has three facets. It uses a single facet front facing only AESA.

JF-17 block 3 was offered two types from China (and some from Europe) where one is featuring two side facing arrays and front facing one.

There are many, many, many types of AESA fighter radars developed and used by PLAAF and on offer for export and offered to PAF and used by PAF. They overlap but often are unique units. So the confusion is understandable.

We can say for sure that J-10C's AESA is not the same as the two types offered for JF-17 block 3. J-10CP's radar may be the same as J-10C's we don't know.

100% all of these are AESAs. Most likely GaN type AESA for J-10C and unknown for JF-17 block 3 but should be since Chinese radar tech moved to GaN since 2017.

 

[Dreamer.]

The radar in the first picture (in the aircraft) does NOT look like the one in the 2nd picture. As I said its not likely, infact you're the first and only one to suggest it.

 

[Dreamer.]

Because J-10B used either a PESA or AESA (it is still uncertain what type and good arguments made for both with some evidence suggesting PESA and some suggesting AESA) either way it is 100% an phased array type radar.

J-10C 100% uses an AESA and it is a different radar to J-10B. This is not only known but also officially said.

JF-17 Block 3 uses AESA. J-10CE offers AESA. How is it possible that PAF would not buy J-10CP/CE with AESA?

It would be a good starting point to compile all the officially known info with sources in one place. That way one can have a referrence point for the discussions. If as you say even J-10B radar is not confirmed till now then it would be a long time till we know about J-10C, so it would help to have some verified basics.

 

[siegecrossbow]

You can joke but you should know that I suggested no such thing. I merely asked what do we actually know? Guessworks and conjectures can be infinite. It can be right or wrong but not the same as reliable info.

We'll know soon enough. All I know is that I fully trust PAF's judgment in aircraft acquisition.