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forget it....we have enough internal problems.!!!
 
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We cannot bury our heads in the sand and say we forget it. Afghanistan is a problem and that problem is multiplied by the fact that there is a hostile government and Indian presence there. We have adopted a passive approach for many years now and it has resulted into the deaths of Pakistanis and that number is in thousands.

By God if this had been any other country, they would have had gone to war, we on the other hand are still debating how to deal with this mess once US and NATO leaves. Isnt this obvious by now, Afghans have proven to be our enemies, and this by the way is from the day Pakistan was created and this isnt changing any time soon.

War with them is the only option. Destroy ANA, their infrastructure, Taliban sanctuaries, take control of areas adjoining our border. We do not need morality here, do what is in the interest of Pakistan. Take the bastards out.
 
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No we should not, we should protect our borders & no cross border activity should be allowed by PA. Afghan officials should be warned of this. Afghanis have already stabbed Pakistan a lot in recent years by cross border firing & speaking against PA, Pak Missile technology & given names, speaking against ISI, speaking against Pakistan & supporting rented terrorists.

Pakistan needs to think about strengthening internal security & Pakistan will have to deport all illegal Afghanis in Pakistan for the sake of National Security as they have brought only crime & terrorist activity in Pakistan.
 
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and same goes to america!

I agree. That's exactly why we are in Afghanistan. Had we not been in Afghanistan, you would be dealing with about 100,000 more terrorists. I don't think your country would survive having 10 or 20 Karachi type events a day. So thank you America for taking care of so many terrorists so Pakistan won't deal with a 100* bigger threat than what it is today!

Even Palestinians admit they are doing it for propaganda reasons, there is lot of hate against Israel in the world. I am not saying what Israel does is right, especially by taking even more land from Palestine. But their crimes are over rated IMO for just being Israel and jews. Other countries get away with lot worst.

There is a LOT more hate in the world towards Pakistan than there is towards Israel. Does that change anything? Israel is not on the offense every day, read news as to when was the last time they bombed anything. They wait, wait and wait. And then they get royally pissed and attack to take out the rocket and terrorist factories hidden in the middle of these dense populated areas. Who gets to be the victim? The civilians who live there as the terrorist probably fire rockets and run away. Why is the local government not stopping Hamas from doing it?
On the other hand, while Israel has the right to defend itself, and so does Pakistan if these terrorists come from Afghanistan, etc. I agree that the issue should be settled soon for the Palestinians and the Israelis so this hot boiling point could end. Thing is, who'll negotiate a deal? Hama will or the militant minded local government would? Someone from the Palestine has to understand, the past is the past, let's sit down and negotiate a peace deal towards a two state solution. But no, they don't want a two state solution, they want everything. Another recipe for disaster. You can't negotiate by walking up to the table and tell the other party "I want everything, f*ck you! When the other party at will can keep everything.
 
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Serious question- why doesn't the PAF go bomb the terror camps in its own territory (Azad Kashmir) or offer the IAF the same options it is seeking from the ANA/Afghanistan i.e. hot pursuit into Pakistani territory against terrorists launching against India from Pakistani territory. Could strike a huge message to all terrorists in the region- that South Asia is serious about cleaning up their menace from every corner of the region.

These double standards aren't doing your cause any good.
 
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Serious question- why doesn't the PAF go bomb the terror camps in its own territory (Azad Kashmir) or offer the IAF the same options it is seeking from the ANA/Afghanistan i.e. hot pursuit into Pakistani territory against terrorists launching against India from Pakistani territory. Could strike a huge message to all terrorists in the region- that South Asia is serious about cleaning up their menace from every corner of the region.

These double standards aren't doing your cause any good.

Disputed territory and nobody cares what Indians regard as double standards.
 
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Disputed territory and nobody cares what Indians regard as double standards.
Why does it make a difference if it is disputed territory or not? Heck most of the terror sites along the Af-Pak border fall under the guise of "disputed territory" will that stop either nation from battering the camps that they find posing a threat to them?

And sure, India's perspective is irrelevant but I'm just pointing out that this double-standard is just undermining Pakistan's position to the entire world.
 
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Why does it make a difference if it is disputed territory or not? Heck most of the terror sites along the Af-Pak border fall under the guise of "disputed territory" will that stop either nation from battering the camps that they find posing a threat to them?

And sure, India's perspective is irrelevant but I'm just pointing out that this double-standard is just undermining Pakistan's position to the entire world.

If the whole world doesn't care what Indians do to Kashmiris then the world doesn't care what position Pak takes on Kashmir.

Afghan border is a completely separate issue with many more players involved. You are just a regional issue.
 
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If the whole world doesn't care what Indians do to Kashmiris then the world doesn't care what position Pak takes on Kashmir.

Afghan border is a completely separate issue with many more players involved. You are just a regional issue.
You really don't understand what I am saying so I'm going to stop responding to your dismissive and incoherent posts.
 
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Both states should team up and wipe out the Taliban from both sides of the border. It can be done.
 
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Serious question- why doesn't the PAF go bomb the terror camps in its own territory (Azad Kashmir) or offer the IAF the same options it is seeking from the ANA/Afghanistan
These double standards aren't doing your cause any good.

I agree, you guys should also eliminate double standards....so when is the IAF going to bomb the terror camps aka the "Cultural Centers" in Afghanistan and in Tajikistan? I think I'd like to see both you and the Pakistani member put out dates and schedules for when you guys will end terrorism into each other's territory. It'll be nice for the humanity and safety will prevail....
 
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Says who? The person who has a different political agenda and is having a hard time in believing that oh sh*it, we actually LOST!!! or the International Body, the Political System within Pakistan and the Supreme Court???? If you think ALL of these institutions local and foreign are corrupted and have been "paid" then you and your leaders spreading this need a shot of Haldol once a month in your triceps. That will cure the hallucinations and paranoia!
Once someone told me and I quote "There is limits to how far bullshi*t can go. At some point, someone will smell the shi*t and will separate the bull from it". I agree with this person's quote after reading these "we didn't win so the elections were rigged and the supreme court, God and everyone else was paid to lie" comments.
Learn to accept defeat and it'll only make you, your country and your political system stronger. Now its time to wait till you vote again and you vote for the one you like, whether they win or not, its all a part of the democratic process.


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Don't talk crap kid, you don't anything about me or Paksitan for that matter, neither what I stand for, nor what I have given up for my country! You can sit on your lazy boy and talk all day long, doesn't make it right, ground realities are very different.
 
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Don't talk crap kid, you don't anything about me or Paksitan for that matter, neither what I stand for, nor what I have given up for my country! You can sit on your lazy boy and talk all day long, doesn't make it right, ground realities are very different.

You just confirmed to me what you are made out of. And the clay didn't seem decent to begin with. You think personal comments will overwrite the question? If you are going to get emotional, may be you should just argue with your wife. Coming to an online forum and debating requires skin that takes an argument and answer it back factually. And I could care less about your sacrifices or who you are, I am sure I got my credentials and I like them. But let's start talking facts again:
How did you know the elections were rigged, how do you know your election commission, the federal government, the auditing departments, the GAO and the Supreme Court are ALL paid by the current government so stay shut and then including the international monitoring agencies too??? Show me ONE proof Please....??
 
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