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I mean like in my case, if we can't get a data, we generally propose theoretical frame work and may use other's data with proper referencing to put new theory. You can validate your new theory by using data of others and can show how your method is much better.

See, I had to work on simulations and solving too many mathematical equations, but in the mean time I read few research papers and find that I can give a better approach, I tell my prof. that this is the problem, I am working on this subject but it will take time due non-availability of lab or anything, he can guide you on another topic calling it secondary work .

Another way is collaborating with other student, just one partner, so that you can get publication number increased.

Like two juniors used to work with me, I focused on one project with all the work, while with them we used to divide the work as all have similar field. He may not solve or simulate one thing, so its better to cut the time and work together. This helps in a way that you become a co-author.

So, I will get my own publication for my work which will go in my thesis, but they will also get their publication which will go in their thesis but since I also worked in it, my name as co-author will be there. So in my CV I have 1 paper as main author and 2 as co-author.

Acha...Pakistan mai system thora different hai...........yahAN MSC ko ziyada prefer kia jata hai!.......ab mera plan yeh hai k MSC mai addmission loon aur qualify kerne k baad HEJ mai addmission le loon ...it is a research centre and of high value.......after that I will be eligible for proper jobs....during my MSC i will definitly,Inshallah WILL LOOK FORWARD TO FURTHER SCIENCE PROJECTS!:DMERA SAHI PLAN HAI NA?
 
Nope, there isn't too much to go on...Surely not enough to make a publication! Most of the publications and data are concise and people usually work on annual crops as Arabidopsis is easy to work on BUT it is an annual crop...I am working on Perennial crop...
Plus I am not interested in reporting something that is already in papers...In Europe it is taken very lightly and wont land in a good journal! I do not want to waste my time on that! In fact for BSc students doing that is like the last straw and many prof avoid it!Plus I have 2 and a half years to produce 3 papers!
I didn't mean take someone else work. You can infer and check your theory from their data. Well, may be in your field its not that easy.

2 1/2 years, well you have a lot of time then. :D

Enjoy karo.
 
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Everyone else... if there is anyone else. :D
That is left... i mean after Armstrong gone and marshmallow gone. :whistle:

wrong choice for the mood, i feel horny for @KRAIT


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Acha...Pakistan mai system thora different hai...........yahAN MSC ko ziyada prefer kia jata hai!.......ab mera plan yeh hai k MSC mai addmission loon aur qualify kerne k baad HEJ mai addmission le loon ...it is a research centre and of high value.......after that I will be eligible for proper jobs....during my MSC i will definitly,Inshallah WILL LOOK FORWARD TO FURTHER SCIENCE PROJECTS!:DMERA SAHI PLAN HAI NA?
See, you can go for PhD directly if you have good record in Bachelors along with good reco and all. But if you think you lack something, then surely go for MSc, get few publications and then apply for PhD. But in that case, try for US.
 
Oye, if you find difficult to get lab, why don't you ask your prof. to send you at some internship. As you said you want to go to Finland, apply where you can have more research facilities.

Uff khudaya! I don't think you got ANY of things that I said!

I know in India and Pakistan publications are produced like peanuts and people go piggy back by writing everyones names on everyones papers! Which I personally find disgusting!

Another thing I have noticed in our Indian colleagues (here I do not have Pakistani colleagues but I assume it would be same in Pakistanis) is that they are soo damn secretive about their research! I know back home someone might steal it...here it is not the case in fact many of my local friends find them WEIRD AND ANNOYING!

Another thing is the way they behave, they take ALL THE SPACE without the willingness to share! Seriously! I know you have alot to research but so does the rest of the lab!

We have 1 Indian and everyone refers to him as the hoarder! He will pop his samples in all PCRs (We have like 10 or so just for our lab) and pop all his previous PCR in the gels (we only have 2 gel tanks that has become a problem) because this guy is sooo interested in using all the facilities that he does everything quickly and wrongly and is repeating since October!

So, if you are asking me to be like him...am sorry it is pointless to accumulate data just because of your hording abilities! And I RATHER work slowly as my Hitler supervisor saw what was happening and told me to take it slow!
 
Uff khudaya! I don't think you got ANY of things that I said!

I know in India and Pakistan publications are produced like peanuts and people go piggy back by writing everyones names on everyones papers! Which I personally find disgusting!

Another thing I have noticed in our Indian colleagues (here I do not have Pakistani colleagues but I assume it would be same in Pakistanis) is that they are soo damn secretive about their research! I know back home someone might steal it...here it is not the case in fact many of my local friends find them WEIRD AND ANNOYING!

Another thing is the way they behave, they take ALL THE SPACE without the willingness to share! Seriously! I know you have alot to research but so does the rest of the lab!

We have 1 Indian and everyone refers to him as the hoarder! He will pop his samples in all PCRs (We have like 10 or so just for our lab) and pop all his previous PCR in the gels (we only have 2 gel tanks that has become a problem) because this guy is sooo interested in using all the facilities that he does everything quickly and wrongly and is repeating since October!

So, if you are asking me to be like him...am sorry it is pointless to accumulate data just because of your hording abilities! And I RATHER work slowly as my Hitler supervisor saw what was happening and told me to take it slow!
Hahahaha...didn't mean that. Not a single bit. Never like unoriginal work.

What I am telling is what you can try. Good to know you are not like those. I also see such people.

Many laughed at me why I am hell bent on original idea and not publish like other Indian and Chinese people.

Don't get me wrong, Don't become like them, do original work , you will get published for sure. But target good journals only. Min. 2 Impact factor.
 
Hahahaha...didn't mean that. Not a single bit. Never like unoriginal work.

What I am telling is what you can try. Good to know you are not like those. I also see such people.

Many laughed at me why I am hell bent on original idea and not publish like other Indian and Chinese people.

Don't get me wrong, Don't become like them, do original work , you will get published for sure. But target good journals only. Min. 2 Impact factor.


In UK I worked with 2 Pakistanis...Naa unhoun nay kuch Publish kiya naa hi mayra honay diyea coz I made it clear I am not sharing authors if they do not work on it!

I am 100% sure that @Aeronaut bhai did phd in english language:lol:

Nahh! I found some mistakes in his English as he annoyed me by fixing mine! :P

Ok people I am off! Been on the whole day! Or feels like it gonna have dinner and watch tv!
 
In UK I worked with 2 Pakistanis...Naa unhoun nay kuch Publish kiya naa hi mayra honay diyea coz I made it clear I am not sharing authors if they do not work on it!
Nahh! I found some mistakes in his English as he annoyed me by fixing mine! :P
Ok people I am off! Been on the whole day! Or feels like it gonna have dinner and watch tv!
Never trust Indians and Pakistanis. :D

Good you made it clear. I always believe in working alone. If my prof. wants to add someone, I say I will put his name but I don't expect him to do anything. Otherwise they don't do work and you get delayed. Its more frustrating.
 
Never trust Indians and Pakistanis. :D

Good you made it clear. I always believe in working alone. If my prof. wants to add someone, I say I will put his name but I don't expect him to do anything. Otherwise they don't do work and you get delayed. Its more frustrating.

I usually say make a sub project and add the person but no way is anyone touching my work! All they do is do it quicker than me as though it is a competition (Yea I am a bit slow but at least my data is MOSTLY right) and screw more than half the samples through contamination!
 
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