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MARCH 15, 1971: Yahya arrives in Dhaka for 'negotiation'

Animals are having sex publicly...why not humans?
Surely what about mutual incest? brother sister , parent children ? Surely animals do this so speak for those two.
Be an advocate for mutual incest too. It Wil not harm anyone if someone do it mutualy. Freedom after all.
Best of luck.
@Mage
 
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Surely what about mutual incest? brother sister , parent children ? Surely animals do this so speak for those two.
Be an advocate for mutual incest too. It Wil not harm anyone if someone do it mutualy. Freedom after all.
Best of luck.
@Mage
I am, as long as it is between two consenting adults.
 
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Yes allowed. But selling wine isn't allowed. I was not talking about such kissing . My aim was to taught @Mage a lesson with his own useless logics of freedom and nothing else.
Today he wants wine trade in the streets of Muslim countries for the sake of freedom, then why can't anyone can ask for orgy sex in EU streets .
thats why I went further even about kissing. My real message was against selling wine everywhere in order to become secular .
@Michael Corleone Read his bottom lines

His previous message was selling pork in the streets of Muslim countries.
So my remark was just to show his logical fallacy, not if any couple kiss in public .
In DU campus, dhanmondi Lake , botanical garden and many other places thousands of couples not only kissing openly , but also finding. .... Bla bla bla. You know what I mean.
But who I am to stop them?And why should I want to stop them? But selling wine is BD street? Not tolerable and its enough to provoking anyone.

রাস্তা ঘাটে মদ বেচা হবে শরবতের মত আর সেগুলা সহ্য করে সাজা লাগবে সহনশীল? মেজের এই ছ্যাচড়ামীর জবাবেই আমি অনেক দূর চলে গেছি।
How is selling wine and having orgies in public street related? Laws should be based on what people can do without hurting others. In that way, I am even in support of banning smoking in public streets where there are lots of people around. There should be dedicated spots for people who smoke.

I don't smoke and I don't like it when someone who is walking around me, is smoking and the smoke that he inhaled, comes out in my way for breathing. It's specially annoying in Dhaka where there's people everywhere and theres this one guy who doesn't have common sense to not smoke among other people in the street.

Selling beer? You are saying, simply because someone who is not muslim and happens to be born in a country with majority muslims, he should suck it up and have double standards where muslims get preferential business and consumer treatment. Muslims can buy and sell whatever they want in their religion but since others aren't muslim, well tough luck for them, it's their fault for being born in that country and they can't have any business that doesn't agree with Islam because standards for muslims to open their preferred business have national laws backing than that of non-muslims.

You are forgetting, a business like selling pork or beer are private entity and privately financed. Not like having public orgies where you are having orgies in places paid for by everyone and when you become get in the way of others, it's not something you can do. I would agree with public orgies in places where people don't get physically constraint though.

But you are saying private business laws should be geared towards where muslims have upper hand just because they are muslims and christian or other faiths can't, just because they are non-muslims.

What can be sold and not, by law, cannot be dictated by religion or have any preference for a set of group of people.

I should clarify though, I am for letting people have the choice to do whatever they want as long as they are not harming anyone themselves, meaning, places like EU aren't my benchmark. If you want to ask what I am for, then ask me, instead of pointing to EU and saying why they don't have that. Just because something is illegal or legal in the EU, doesn't mean I agree with them on that issue.

Maybe........not in every street though...and finding people to do it without payment would be tough.
http://www.romancemeetslife.com/2014/06/it-is-legal-in-amsterdam-and-copenhagen.html
Also, I think in Spain, the law views nudity and sex as basic needs. You can have sex anywhere except in front of children. Humans are animals. Animals are having sex publicly...why not humans?
People should have the right to have sex in public(Unless it is in front of a school, church, Masjid or temple or maybe even prison lol). Whether many people would like to do it in public or not is a different question entirely.

Not every law if fine within EU. Based on my view, I would be very Liberal even among liberals.
I would advocate for legalizing brothels, euthanasia, incest(between consenting adults)...and most of the banned drugs. People should have the right to suffer because of their decision. Limited governance is the key. Let people live their lives without the govt interfering them as long as they are not harming others.

Euthanasia, brothels are no-braners but incest has a lot of nuances. I would agree between siblings but I have fundamental opposition to parent child (when the child is adult of course) relationship. And that's because since the parent (father or mother) has to rear their child, means they can mold or shape their views while they grow up. That child might grow up to like someone other than the parent, if brought up normally. But the fact that the parent have the power to mold their thoughts and preferences while they aren't adults yet, at that instance I can't endorse them having legal power to have relation even though the child might be an adult then. For this though, I would refer to you one of my favourite political youtube host, watch this clip. Fair warning, he generally curses if that bothers you (doesn't faze me at all).


The story he is reporting on, is a different scenario though, where the dad was away when she grew up. So didn't have any influence when she was a kid. I however, as I said, fundamentally oppose to it because of the molding that would normally happen. And I can't give anyone the possible right, where he/she can think he can get ideas into a child that the child trusts the most, just to have legal relation when the child turns into adult.

6:50 is where he makes the argument that I raised. It's a predatory relationship basically.
 
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I am, as long as it is between two consenting adults.
Well if you are honest with this remark , then at I am giving you a thanks , because atleast you are honest and not vondo varaity like most of bangladeshi psedo- atheist .
@Mage
 
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Fall of Dhaka is good thing happened to Pakistan, we can't defend a loose part sitting 1500 miles away and would always prove loose part during conflict with India and if they still part of Pakistan may be we forced by India to negotiate Kashmir over Dhaka.

Thanks Mrs. Indira Gandhi that you free us from a loose part which flooded every year and for that they blame us and now we are free to take India without the fear of loosing Bangladesh.

One day Bangladesh will prove 2nd Pakistan for India since they hate India as much as we do but unfortunately they are ruled by stooges of India once they got free they will take India like we did.


@DESERT FIGHTER @Areesh
Multi I.D rat is back....
@The Eagle

@ Why you people always blame Bangladeshi people ? You failed to tackle the situation of 1971. You always preferred Kashmir then East Pakistan. Do you know that in 1965 war East Pakistan had only 3 x Brigades without heavy equipment including tanks. The alone tank Regiment was raised after 1965 war !

@ Whether it is a West Pakistani, Bengali or Behari or Hindustani all fought for a separate homeland for the Muslims of India. West and East Pakistanis were fortunate that they got their own ancestor land but what about Biharees and Hindustanis ? Pakistan was created on the basis of "Two Nation Theory" and it is still exits no matter Bangladesh is an independent State.

@ Since most of the time West Pakistanis were in chair they should have thought the implications.
 
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Today he wants wine trade in the streets of Muslim countries for the sake of freedom, then why can't anyone can ask for orgy sex in EU streets .
thats why I went further even about kissing. My real message was against selling wine everywhere in order to become secular .
UAE sells alcohol easily without any effect on citizens.
Whereas it’s not allowed to sell alcohol at all in Kuwait to anybody, but that doesn’t stop illegal alcohol abuse does it!?
 
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UAE sells alcohol easily without any effect on citizens.
So?
Whereas it’s not allowed to sell alcohol at all in Kuwait to anybody, but that doesn’t stop illegal alcohol abuse does it!?
Brothel is illegal in many countries ,still public go there, does that really matter?
The question was about religious sentiment .
 
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So?

Brother is illegal in many countries ,still public go there.
The question was about religious sentiment .
Religion shouldn’t be allowed to interfere with matters of state, especially when the state is religiously diverse, humans have progressed far enough to govern laws of state with laws of earth instead of laws of god or gods (depending on your religious views)
Faith should be kept a personal choice of an individual.
 
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It was better we leave east pakistan i object the way we leave it
As we know, the "negotiations" failed.

A declassified description of March 25th, 1971, "Black Night", and the days that followed, telegraphed from the U.S. consulate in "Dacca":

...STATED ARMY LOOKIN G AWAMI LEAGUERS BUT REALLY MORE I NDI SCR IMATE THAN SELECTIVE IN APPROACH. MO ST ARM Y DESTRUCTION : NIGHTS OF MARCH 25 AND 26 LESSER ON MARCH 27 AND 28. ALSO REPORTED WHAT TERMED RELABL E ACCOUNT. FAMILY 0F ELEVEN ALL KILLED NITEOF 25TH 2 . ITEM: RECURRENT REPORTS MANY UNIVIERSITY PROFESSOR S KI LLED. ALTHOUGH CI R CUMSTANCES VAGUE. MANY SAY ATTEMPT UNDERWA Y WIPE OUT ALL SOURCE POTENTIAL INTELLECTUAL FERMENT . . BRITIS H SAY SIX CONFIRMED DEAD, INCLUDING TWO DEANS AND EX-GOVERNOR DR. M.N. HUDA, ECON DEPT. HEAD. INDIANS CLAIM AT LEAST SIX DEAD ( FIVE N A MES SAME AS BRITIS H LIST, WITH ADDITI ON OF DR. D. C . DEV OF PHILOSPHY DEPARTMENT, WHO RECENTLY RETURNE D .FROM US VISIT AND WHO ACCORDING NUMEROUS REPORTS IS DEA D WELL- C ONNECTED BENGALI PREVIOUSLY NOTED FOR PREVIOUS RELIABILIT Y PROVIDED NAMES OF FIVE PROFESSORS REPORTEDLY KILLED. WHE N TALLIED, TOTAL OF THOSE RELIABLY REPORTED DEAD IS TEN : : (COMMEN T UNSUBSTANTIATED WHETHER KILLED IN C ROSS-F IRE WHEN STUDEN T HALLS A TTACKED O R WHETHER SELECTIVELY SHOT. ALSO STILL UNCLEA R WHETHER ALL S HOT AT TIME WHEN ARMY OCCUPIED CAMPUS OR WHETHE R SOME KILLED SUBSEQUENTLY). 3. ITEM: SAME BENGALI CITED ABOVE OPINED VIOLENCE RANDOM I N NATUR . AS EVIDENCE, CLAIMED HE WAS EYE-WITNESS TO ONE FAMILY WITH E NO GOVERNMENT OR AWAMI LEAGUE CONNECTIONS BIENG WIPED OUT B Y ARMY. CLAlMED HOUSE OF THREE OR FOUR SE N I OR CI VIL SERVANT S ENTERED BY ARMY AND INHABITANTS KILLE . D 4. ITEM :WE HAVE RECEIVED WIDESPREAD AND, WE BELIEVERELIABL E REPORTS OF TROOPS ENGAGED IN LOOTING HOMES (BEATING THOSE WH O OBJE C T, INCLUDIN G MIDDLE LEVEL GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL S) AND SHAKING DOWN REFUGE...
 
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