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just... buzz off OTTurkey should adopt other strategy. Piece at home, piece in the world is not working
That turned out SO well, Taliban is destroyed and Afghanistan is thriving again.We have to say, if you support terrorist I will come and burn your house down. Just like how U.S says to its enemies. I'm sad to read so many naive comments from my countrymen.
Turkey had the guns and equipment before the PKK ever got established. Why did this problem drag on for 30 years and still going?Especially since Iran supported PKK. I don't know if they still support PKK.
The only way to fight violence is with violence. Turkey has the guns and equipment to destroy PKK, why should it sit at the table with them? As I said earlier PKK is the symptom. The people behind PKK who support them is the cause.
To solve the problem we have "cure" the cause.
Turkey had the guns and equipment before the PKK ever got established. Why did this problem drag on for 30 years and still going?
The people behind the PKK that support it is where PKK feeds itself from. If you end this support, you will end PKK, or at least weaken it greatly. But how can you end the support? By looking at the reasons why some people support the PKK. And whatever these reason's are, Turkey must fix it. In other words, don't give people a reason to support PKK and especially don't push and provoke the people to support the PKK.
Turkey has found out about this, but only in recent years. PKK has more problems recruiting fighters now, then they did back in the 90's. In the 90's in South-East Turkey, a military alert (OHAL) was active. And during this period, PKK had one of their highest recruitment periods.
Turkey has this problem; "You are either like us, or you are not one of us" or try to force their views on others. And every faction in Turkey seems to be like this. Whether it be the nationalists, leftists, conservatives, etc. And this causes hate among the different point of views. Same with the Kurdish issue. To fix this issue we need to be tolerable first and foremost. Understand what would drive someone to support a certain party, and build from there.
We are not in WW2. Nobody attacked us in WW2. If Turkey got attacked I'm sure he won't have rolled on his back and surrended to terrorist like some want to do from what I can read.just... buzz off OT
Turkey has evaded the destruction of WWII with Atatürk's famous motto.
That turned out SO well, Taliban is destroyed and Afghanistan is thriving again.
I didn't say anything about other countries supporting PKK in my post.What do you mean don't give other countries reason to support PKK? Our neighbors have done it for decades. Not because we gave a reason but out of self interest they did. Don't be so niave.
This is exactly what I am talking about. Thanks for proving my point.Secondly if somebody holds a gun against your head. How are you going to negoiate? This is not possible. If you want to live as a coward please stay in Europe, don't come back.
I didn't say anything about other countries supporting PKK in my post.
But let me say something about that as well. If PKK has no support from the people that they claim are fighting for, then even if other countries support PKK, it won't find a lot of ground to stand on in Turkey.
This is exactly what I am talking about. Thanks for proving my point.
7% isn't small (that's how much BDP had in the last elections). The support for PKK is still substantial, however they are having more trouble recruiting now because of recent changes in Turkey (Kurdish in schools for instance and tv channels). The support for PKK needs to be so low, that the PKK can't find any ground to stand on.There is no support for PKK in Turkey. Only very small percentage.
I kinda get the feeling you don't read my posts. Do you even know what the point is I was trying to make?The only point you proven is that you are very naive. If somebody comes to you and holds a weapon against your head and says give 50% of your backyard to me otherwise I will pull the trigger, you tell me where the negotiation is? I guess you have been smoking too much of the green stuff in the Netherlands. Thanks for proving my point.
If ir tab is an Azeri Turk why is he opening such a provocative thread and supporting PkK terrorist?
Iran is not even giving any rights to Turks in Iran. They have no right to open such threads.
To solve the problem Turkey has to go in Iraq. Turkey cannot win an insurgency battle with defending.
Let me paint a picture what is going on. Turkish soldiers are taking guard at the border, PKK terrorists go over the border shoot our soldiers and run away. How can Turkey win this war if the only thing it does is defending? Instead of being passive, we should be proactive, Turkish army should take initiative and be the one to surprise them and make them afraid of us. For this we need to go in Iraq, for this we need determinacy, bravery and insight.
If you are going to sit, wait for them to attack and then chase them like you chase a bunch of chicken in the hope to catch them, you will never win this battle, you will never win the war.
We have to say, if you support terrorist I will come and burn your house down. Just like how U.S says to its enemies.
I rest my case.And why do you bring U.S up? Do you thing they have regrets about not negotiating with terrorist?
And please, just keep the Kurdish issue seperated.After that victory against terrorists, Kurds are still there.
To solve the problem Turkey has to go in Iraq. Turkey cannot win an insurgency battle with defending.
Let me paint a picture what is going on. Turkish soldiers are taking guard at the border, PKK terrorists go over the border shoot our soldiers and run away. How can Turkey win this war if the only thing it does is defending? Instead of being passive, we should be proactive, Turkish army should take initiative and be the one to surprise them and make them afraid of us. For this we need to go in Iraq, for this we need determinacy, bravery and insight.
If you are going to sit, wait for them to attack and then chase them like you chase a bunch of chicken in the hope to catch them, you will never win this battle, you will never win the war.
To solve the problem Turkey has to go in Iraq. Turkey cannot win an insurgency battle with defending.
Let me paint a picture what is going on. Turkish soldiers are taking guard at the border, PKK terrorists go over the border shoot our soldiers and run away. How can Turkey win this war if the only thing it does is defending? Instead of being passive, we should be proactive, Turkish army should take initiative and be the one to surprise them and make them afraid of us. For this we need to go in Iraq, for this we need determinacy, bravery and insight.
If you are going to sit, wait for them to attack and then chase them like you chase a bunch of chicken in the hope to catch them, you will never win this battle, you will never win the war.