JF-17 Block-3 -- Updates, News & Discussion

[PakFactor]

aya maza ? jaldi excited ho jaty ho . i was about to say its not block 3 but then i keep my mouth shut as many red faced will bash me . it was block 2 .

Dil tot gya

 

[PakShaheen79]

Thanks Windy for providing that little excitement no matter how short lived it was, lolz. CAC is keeping us in indefinite loop of waiting so meanwhile it is good that we have DCS.

 

[Figaro]

I think the wait is actually good ... it means the JF-17 Block 3 upgrades will be more comprehensive than most of us had previously expected. In all likelihood now, it will be a very big evolution.

 

[ziaulislam]

About two years ago, I was told that Block-III would be powered by WS-13. I trust the source and have not mentioned this to anyone until now. Let us see what actually happens because a lot can change in two years.

So whose driving the rd93ma development

 

[Figaro]

So whose driving the rd93ma development

I wouldn't place too much hope in the WS-13 ... from what I've heard, it is not one of the key engine projects funded by the Chinese military (e.g. WS-15, WS-19, WS-10, WS-20) itself. Instead, it is entirely driven by AVICs own funds and as such is relegated to a much lower priority than other turbofan engines.

 

[Armchair]

WS-19 as far as I know, is the next step from WS-13. Just like WS-10 to WS-15.

 

[Figaro]

WS-19 as far as I know, is the next step from WS-13. Just like WS-10 to WS-15.

The WS-15 will be operational before the WS-19 ... and we still have to wait a few years for that.

 

[Chak Bamu]

So whose driving the rd93ma development

Demand & threat of competition?

If WS-13 is slightly more fuel efficient (it does have a slightly higher bypass ratio, reportedly), & provides higher thrust than RD-93, then it is a viable candidate IMO.

 

[GriffinsRule]

Great News Windy. Thanks for sharing it. The nose cone does look bigger. Is the wing a tad bit longer?

If we see a block 2 flying in primer it will be the Nigerian AF bird.

 

[ziaulislam]

I wouldn't place too much hope in the WS-13 ... from what I've heard, it is not one of the key engine projects funded by the Chinese military (e.g. WS-15, WS-19, WS-10, WS-20) itself. Instead, it is entirely driven by AVICs own funds and as such is relegated to a much lower priority than other turbofan engines.

i think even ws 19 is a viable candidate to replace ws 13/rd 93

 

[Dazzler]

DC's model of blk 3. Can't believe you didn't check that.

 

[Sinnerman108]

Demand & threat of competition?

If WS-13 is slightly more fuel efficient (it does have a slightly higher bypass ratio, reportedly), & provides higher thrust than RD-93, then it is a viable candidate IMO.

Maybe for the newer blocks, that too after a lot of work.
Engine represents a large fraction of the total weight.
Thus a different engine means tweaking the flight control system.

 

[Figaro]

Maybe for the newer blocks, that too after a lot of work.
Engine represents a large fraction of the total weight.
Thus a different engine means tweaking the flight control system.

If the engines have similar performance parameters, then there should not be a major change in the flight control system at all.

 

[ziaulislam]

Demand & threat of competition?

If WS-13 is slightly more fuel efficient (it does have a slightly higher bypass ratio, reportedly), & provides higher thrust than RD-93, then it is a viable candidate IMO.

Dont know ..if ws 13 or ws19 is selected for block 3 then rd93 ma is dead..and waste of money..there are no other single jet customers (since rd93 ma is being optimized for single engine jets) unless russia id planning to bring one in the market

 

[Readerdefence]

Dont know ..if ws 13 or ws19 is selected for block 3 then rd93 ma is dead..and waste of money..there are no other single jet customers (since rd93 ma is being optimized for single engine jets) unless russia id planning to bring one in the market

Hi if I may ask what will happen rest of the rd93 stock as been given info here about 500 odd engine been ordered initially what you take how many left still with PAF beside is there a shelf life of engines also like ammunition
if possible to answer
thank you