Is the Altay MBT DooMed?

[merzifonlu]

@Beast is right.

China never ever allowed that. And nobody allowed that.

 

[Beast]

Why not?

Why would China lose half the profit when we can make full profit? Ukraine refused to sell us engine for VT1A tank for Peru when they are marketing their T-84 for Peru army.

 

[FuturePAF]

If PA want to buy some Altay Turret and install them on the Chassis of the VT-4,they will learn nothing from the project.Why not try to R&D a new turret by yourself?you will learn much more from such project.

Hope they do some thing like that for Project Haider, although they are going to have to source a 1500 HP engine for it.

 

[Pandora]

And they will deliver them at a rate of 0.8 engines per year.

And if you want spare parts, cash out to restart their production with a few years lead time.

Hence the licence production option. Just get the tech no need to relly on them for production. Turkey has good enough tech base to absorb such tech transfer.

 

[luciferdd]

Hence the licence production option. Just get the tech no need to relly on them for production. Turkey has good enough tech base to absorb such tech transfer.

Turkey needs a power-pack include 1500HP engine and hydraulic transmission box,but Ukraine don't have 1500HP engine nor hydraulic transmission box,then how can you acquire above techs from Ukraine?

 

[Foinikas]

It could also be a good idea for Pakistan for a future tank. Chassis of the VT-4 with the Altay Turret.

Can you make the VT-4 chassis? What happened to Al Khalid II? Is it out yet or...?

 

[Paul2]

Turkey needs a power-pack include 1500HP engine and hydraulic transmission box,but Ukraine don't have 1500HP engine nor hydraulic transmission box,then how can you acquire above techs from Ukraine?

Ukraine announces 1500HP version of 6TD engine

They had it as blueprints for years, just never produced serially as nobody bought. Now it seems they at least paid to build up some inventory for their own tanks.

 

[luciferdd]

Ukraine announces 1500HP version of 6TD engine

They had it as blueprints for years, just never produced serially as nobody bought. Now it seems they at least paid to build up some inventory for their own tanks.

That thing names TD6-3,but it just a R&D plan on the paper not a real engine by now.And only an engine is useless,what Turkey need is a fully power-pack include engine and hydraulic transmission box like the Euro-Power pack in Korean's K2 tank.

 

[Beny Karachun]

Did watch the video, and the tank isn’t out of hot water yet, the South Korean engine can be sanctioned too, and with how Turkey-US relations are going, who knows, there is still a Ukrainian option.

however I believe the tank will eventually reach production in one state or another.

Well that's valid as long as Russia doesn't conquer Ukraine

 

[Foinikas]

Ukraine announces 1500HP version of 6TD engine

They had it as blueprints for years, just never produced serially as nobody bought. Now it seems they at least paid to build up some inventory for their own tanks.

Ukrainians keep designing things and end up not producing them,all the time.

 

[aziqbal]

why has this project failed where others have been so successful ? whats the core reason ?

 

[dBSPL]

why has this project failed where others have been so successful ? whats the core reason ?

Only reason: MTU-RENK. Strategically, SSB project planning mistake.

 

[Beast]

why has this project failed where others have been so successful ? whats the core reason ?

Good and powerful engine are notorious difficult to acquire and not many can build it from scratch.

Ukrainians keep designing things and end up not producing them,all the time.

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Design is one thing. To build it actual into production is another thing. Especially mass production. Ukraine with many years of war and economy ruin, I doubt their past glorious factory are up to the task.

They even make a mess of Royal Thai Army T-84 Oplot deal and keep delay and delay. They even shipped refurbished tank as brand news trying to fool the Thai. End up deal void, they even terminate Chinese deal and globble up billions dollars of Chinese based on loose national security law.

Deal with caution when comes to Ukraine.



nobody can trust Ukraine military industries anymore.

 

[Indos]

Altay Tank design comes from Korean K2 tank, so it is so match if Altay uses engine and transmission from Korean that is also design to power Korean K2 tank

 

[Beast]

Altay Tank design comes from Korean K2 tank, so it is so match if Altay uses engine and transmission from Korean that is also design to power Korean K2 tank

K2 tank use MTU engine.