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[Messerschmitt]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1629261339913846785

 

[Stryker1982]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1629261339913846785

 

[Messerschmitt]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1629407202220834819

 

[Ich]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1629407202220834819

If the radars are there, then an anti-sat-missile would also be nice.

 

[Messerschmitt]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1629449970133659654

 

[lydian fall]

 

[Messerschmitt]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1629875433637330947

 

[Stryker1982]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1629875433637330947

Dude made 1 excellent blog post calling so called experts idoits and disappeared haha

Seems like maybe he got tired of the bs

 

[glablo]

Orbit calculations were performed based on the launch parameters of qaem-100 and the performance of its first stage Rafe engine (6800 kg).
The conditions were assumed to be: Rafe fuel ratio of 91%, second stage of 1000 kg with fuel ratio of 95%, and third stage of 200 kg total weight for the undisclosed weight.
It can be seen that the specific impulse for both the first and second stages is exactly 300 seconds, which is typical for individual rockets, and the orbit insertion is successful without excess or deficiency.

Since a slight difference in specific impulse or fuel ratio will cause an excess or deficiency, this value is estimated to be approximately correct.

The resulting Rage engine will fly 1500 km with a 1000 kg warhead, and more than 2500 km with a 500 kg warhead.
This is not a spectacular result when compared to the 4500 kg Kheibar Shekan, which has a range of 1450 km with a 500 kg warhead,
but the ability to deliver a 500 kg warhead to Austrian capital Vienna may be exciting to the Europeans.

 

[Stryker1982]

The resulting Rage engine will fly 1500 km with a 1000 kg warhead, and more than 2500 km with a 500 kg warhead.
This is not a spectacular result when compared to the 4500 kg Kheibar Shekan, which has a range of 1450 km with a 500 kg warhead,
but the ability to deliver a 500 kg warhead to Austrian capital Vienna may be exciting to the Europeans.

Some seem to thing much larger payloads can be carried at the range of 2500kms. Regardless, with a glider-friendly MaRV and pull up meanuver, it should add a 200km to that distance and more so if a small booster 2nd stage is attached.

If the user in the video is correct with it's range payload calculations (9400km 300kg warhead) using 2 stage missile with Rafe + Salman. If price is under $1 million per unit. It would be worth building some small arsenal to disrupt strategic ground stations used for SAT processing in Western Europe in the event of total conflict. RAF Menwith Hill being an obvious target. It does much more than is suggested in the image.

 

[Arash1991]

it would also be interesting to know if iran could sink very large ships in the suez canal with BMs or not. would certainly be worth an action in the war.

Regarding ICBMs, do you really believe that the bases in the UK or, for example, Rammstein airbase, etc., can be sustainably eliminated with a few tactical ICBMs in the event of war? You have to hit more than just the runways, but especially the strategic supply and all the command centers.

 

[Stryker1982]

it would also be interesting to know if iran could sink very large ships in the suez canal with BMs or not. would certainly be worth an action in the war.

They talk about having to ability to hit ships 2000km away. Such a capability will never be publicly unveiled so we can never be sure, but the ability is there if you can use a constellation of SATs to track shipping and have the available tech (which would be very high end). Hard to image any ARH seekers or optical seekers surviving such high g and Mach speeds that are consistent with 2000km missile. I suppose alot of energy defeat maneuvers would have to be the norm to slow down.

Regarding ICBMs, do you really believe that the bases in the UK or, for example, Rammstein airbase, etc., can be sustainably eliminated with a few tactical ICBMs in the event of war? You have to hit more than just the runways, but especially the strategic supply and all the command centers.

Those would be IRBMs I suppose in the lingo. A few hundred 200-400 high end missiles would be needed.

The Ramstein base is not that large. Ain Al-Assad is actually much larger. but it is a major bridge between Europe and West Asia for the USA. So disabling the two runways temporarily and using cluster munitions in open parking spaces to attack the abundance of large aircraft there is important. Their are still many many bases that can be used aside from Ramstein. Hence you are more so looking to identify and targeting data processing centers, where intelligence is aggregated and processing by humans and equipment stationed there. This requires good SAT intelligence (which is not well developed in Iran) and very precise missiles cheap enough to produce in a decent quantity, other than a few token missiles, it would not change any equations.

RAF Menwith HIll is also used extensively for the processing of SAT information since it is a major ground station for their space intelligence apparatus. You have to put this base out of work. If you have no capacity to really pull the pillars of US military doctrine apart and prevent them from attaining their rhythm, then you will never stand a chance. The first & most prominent pillar being their incredible space based ISR. it has to be put out of work immediately. Of course, they always have the mainland as backup.

In recent Chinese military simulations made by the USA, their first mode of action is to disable communications and pick apart the methods and techniques used by the US military to gather valuable space based ISR in the near Pacific.

 

[lydian fall]

 

[jauk]

They talk about having to ability to hit ships 2000km away. Such a capability will never be publicly unveiled so we can never be sure, but the ability is there if you can use a constellation of SATs to track shipping and have the available tech (which would be very high end). Hard to image any ARH seekers or optical seekers surviving such high g and Mach speeds that are consistent with 2000km missile. I suppose alot of energy defeat maneuvers would have to be the norm to slow down.


Those would be IRBMs I suppose in the lingo. A few hundred 200-400 high end missiles would be needed.

The Ramstein base is not that large. Ain Al-Assad is actually much larger. but it is a major bridge between Europe and West Asia for the USA. So disabling the two runways temporarily and using cluster munitions in open parking spaces to attack the abundance of large aircraft there is important. Their are still many many bases that can be used aside from Ramstein. Hence you are more so looking to identify and targeting data processing centers, where intelligence is aggregated and processing by humans and equipment stationed there. This requires good SAT intelligence (which is not well developed in Iran) and very precise missiles cheap enough to produce in a decent quantity, other than a few token missiles, it would not change any equations.

RAF Menwith HIll is also used extensively for the processing of SAT information since it is a major ground station for their space intelligence apparatus. You have to put this base out of work. If you have no capacity to really pull the pillars of US military doctrine apart and prevent them from attaining their rhythm, then you will never stand a chance. The first & most prominent pillar being their incredible space based ISR. it has to be put out of work immediately. Of course, they always have the mainland as backup.

In recent Chinese military simulations made by the USA, their first mode of action is to disable communications and pick apart the methods and techniques used by the US military to gather valuable space based ISR in the near Pacific.

Prolly the order of magnitude is in 10s not 100s. Note, the warhead type and weight is significant.

 

[Stryker1982]

All in all, I don't think Iran can yet achieve a 2000km hit on a moving ship without alot more development and assets in Space.