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[yavar]

@yavar

is NK in liquid fuel not more advanced than Iran?
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no it is not we head . even after showing the Hwasong-12

 

[AmirPatriot]

Thanks for the reply
As a conclusion Amir, we really need a new fighter in that class. Heavy and capable of carrying out such missions. Su-30 SM using heavy turbo jet engines is the best option between foreign sources. If the current government agrees with raising military budget to the level of 7-8 years ago, we can see a heavy turbo jet engine produced locally. Importing Su-30 SM and manufacturing a homemade one just like S300-Bavar story can make us able to bring ASM into our defensive arsenal, hopefully ofcourse
USA's low altitude spying satellites especially Space-X are a great danger to our military intelligence, that was why i asked about it.

A few points:

1. The Su-30SM, while a capable multirole fighter, is not suited to ASAT missions even with its powerful turbofan engines. The F-14 is a fast interceptor and the F-15 is a fast air superiority fighter. The Su-30 is much heavier and less aerodynamically optimised for high speed flight with those drag enducing canards and second seat. If Iran wanted an ASAT mission I'm sure it would modify one of its MRBMs, the rocket technology is already there and accessible. This is what the Chinese have done. However it's not just a simple matter of modifying the guidance of a missile. You need significant surveillance capabilities to identify and track enemy satellites, as well as a specialised kill vehicle that can make manoeuvres in space.

2. I doubt Iran needs to copy the Su-30SM. If Iran wanted to copy a modernish fighter, it has had the F-14 for 40 years.

3. Bavar-373 has no relation to S-300. There are no similarities in the missiles or radars.

 

[Muhammed45]

1. The Su-30SM, while a capable multirole fighter, is not suited to ASAT missions even with its powerful turbofan engines. The F-14 is a fast interceptor and the F-15 is a fast air superiority fighter. The Su-30 is much heavier and less aerodynamically optimised for high speed flight with those drag enducing canards and second seat.

If Iran wanted an ASAT mission I'm sure it would modify one of its MRBMs, the rocket technology is already there and accessible. This is what the Chinese have done.

I have seen it's test, just don't remember the link, would share it with you if i remembered. The Chinese interceptor missile failed to hit the target. I think that the reason is dullness or slowness of ground based missiles compared with air launched interceptor missiles. Perhaps they have improved it, don't know

You need significant surveillance capabilities to identify and track enemy satellites

I think that we are completely capable in this field.
http://www.mashreghnews.ir/news/341...ا-512-آنتن-ماهواره-های-دشمن-را-رصد-می-کند-عکس
We are capable of intercepting their Sats however i don't know they are ground based radars or Tomcat is doing it's mini AWACS role just like the past. It is more possible that the interceptor radar is ground based.

as well as a specialised kill vehicle that can make manoeuvres in space.

2. I doubt Iran needs to copy the Su-30SM. If Iran wanted to copy a modernish fighter, it has had the F-14 for 40 years.

3. Bavar-373 has no relation to S-300. There are no similarities in the missiles or radars.

And i didn't mean that we want to copy it or there was a similarity between Bavar and S-300PMU2.
I was pointing at two different fighters but in the same class.

 

[scimitar19]

One question is Bavar system capable to launch missiles from airborne vessels such as F 14 and other aircraft that would be awesome to have airborne launching capabilities where missile is guided from the gound based radar systems. I do believe range of these missiles can be extended to much greater range where fighters can engage targets form far away like "fire and forget" and after missile gets into targeting range, ground radar bases system takes over and guides missile to the target.

The great thing about it is speed that such missile gains from aircraft+speed it gets from its own engines increases the range of the same missile and it gets much harder to dodge. It will be like firing a stone from a slingshot that is on steroids.

 

[Draco.IMF]

Can someone say whats this weapon system is? Rocket thrower?
Seen today used by iranian backed militias in Syria

 

[Arminkh]

Can someone say whats this weapon system is? Rocket thrower?
Seen today used by iranian backed militias in Syria

Shouldn't be Iranian. Had not seen cylindrical launch tubes in Iranian arsenal. Russian maybe?

 

[husseinibnali]

Can someone say whats this weapon system is? Rocket thrower?
Seen today used by iranian backed militias in Syria

It's just an IRAM launcher!

 

[yavar]

Iran Gen Dehghan: extended land attack cruise missile project in past 3 years سردار دهقان موشک کروز

 

[arashkamangir]

Iran Gen Dehghan: extended land attack cruise missile project in past 3 years سردار دهقان موشک کروز

There is now a battlefield to field test them.

 

[Fafnir]

Iran Gen Dehghan: extended land attack cruise missile project in past 3 years سردار دهقان موشک کروز

Any chance of a translation/synopsis?

 

[Draco.IMF]

Iran Navy purchased already russian Club-S cruise missiles for its 3 kilo class subs

"
3M-54E Club-S is the submarine launched anti-shipping variant, Its basic length is 8.2 m (27 ft), with a 200 kg (440 lb) warhead. Its range is 220 km; (note that its range is less than the 3M-54). It is a sea-skimmer with a supersonic terminal speed and a flight altitude of 4.6 metres (15 ft) at its final stage is 2.9 mach.
"

Im pretty sure Iran will do its best to imporve it drastically in range, better solid fuel, electronics....
Maybe to convert it also into a land launched surface to surface missile.

 

[yavar]

Any chance of a translation/synopsis?

he's just saying, work on land attack cruise missile is been expanded and improved in past 3 years

 

[Draco.IMF]

he's just saying, work on land attack cruise missile is been expanded and improved in past 3 years

@yavar

talking about "conspiracy theory" about the 4 russian cruise missiles landed in Iran, fake or true?
got Iran its hands on them? or totally destroyed and no use for it?
just conspiracy theory talking here, you know, exchaning conspiracy theory opinions..

 

[yavar]

@yavar

talking about "conspiracy theory" about the 4 russian cruise missiles landed in Iran, fake or true?
got Iran its hands on them? or totally destroyed and no use for it?
just conspiracy theory talking here, you know, exchaning conspiracy theory opinions..

the evidence shows it did, people head bang and the the site where look like something landed there

 

[Draco.IMF]

the evidence shows it did, people head bang and the the site where look like something landed there

well when it was a "bang" than missile seems to be too destrcucted to maybe reverse engineer something.
One of the missiles landed in caspian sea i read, if it landed in not so deep region it could be lifted, lets hope iran engineers can do something with them.

About cruise missiles Iran is working on:

You wrote in IMF Forum Iran is approching design of Tomahawk missiles (many of them landed in Iraq/Iran)
Russian missiles are much bigger than Tomahawks, thats why Iran decided to go with US design....