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India will suffer for what it did in Kashmir: Arundhati

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i checked them all u idiot.
Yr blaming me of ''patience problem'' but it seems u didnt read my reply patiently:lol:

I did talked about all yr sources including the first american one.

oh! really you read it all ?? And that's how you come up with accusation that it's all American, Nato sources ?
 
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Good Job Arundhati. First Shahrukh and now her.

Looks like our friends in India are on a roll. :D
 
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:lol:Dude the resolution now where says something like that!!!
Thats what yr gov says when it tries to play with facts.

The Army who is oppressing Muslims killing them just because they want to be part of a Country with who they share Religious, Social, Cultural,Moral similarities n u claim that the Army Who is in the Azad Kashmir's Border Areas only that is on the request of Azad Kashmir Gov that annually pays rant to Pak army for protection should be withdrawn!!!!!

Dude it seems yr Gov n u has gone crazy.


This is the most unfortunate ignorance of pakistani members here..... Hell bent on discussing kashmir when they have never read the UN resolution of Kashmir .....

Please for fook sake read!!!!


Often on this forum, aspersions are cast on UN security councils resolutions. Folowing might give a good understanding:

*RESOLUTION ADOPTED BY THE UNITED NATIONS COMMISSION FOR INDIA AND
PAKISTAN ON 13 AUGUST 1948. (DOCUMENT NO. S/1100, PARA 75, DATED THE
9TH NOVEMBER, 1948)

THE UNITED NATIONS COMMISSION FOR INDIA AND PAKISTAN

Having given careful consideration to the points of view expressed by
the Representatives of India and Pakistan regarding the situation in
the State of Jammu and Kashmir, and

Being of the opinion that the prompt cessation of hostilities and the
coercion of conditions the continuance of which is likely to endanger
international peace and security are essential to implementation of
its endeavors to assist the Governments of India and Pakistan in
effecting a final settlement of the situation.

Resolves to submit simultaneously to the Governments of India and
Pakistan the following proposal

PART I

CEASE-FIRE ORDER

1. The Governments of India and Pakistan agree that their respective
High Commands will issue separately and simultaneously a cease- fire
order to apply to all forces under their control in the State of Jammu
and Kashmir as of the earliest practicable date or dates to be
mutually agreed upon within four days after these proposals have been
accepted by both Governments.

2. The High Commands of Indian and Pakistan forces agreed to refrain
from taking any measures that might augment the military potential of
the forces under their control in the State of Jammu and Kashmir. (For
the purpose of these proposals "forces under their control shall be
considered to include all forces, organized and unorganized, fighting
or participating in hostilities on their respective sides).

3. The Commanders-in-Chief of the Forces of India and Pakistan shall
promptly confer regarding any necessary local changes in present
dispositions which may facilitate the cease-fire.

4. In its discretions and as the Commission may find practicable, the
Commission will appoint military observers who under the authority of
the Commission and with the co-operation of both Commands will
supervise the observance of the cease-fire order.

5. The Government of India and the Government of Pakistan agree to
appeal to their respective peoples to assist in creating and
maintaining an atmosphere favorable to the promotion of further
negotiations.



PART II

TRUCE AGREEMENT

Simultaneously with the acceptance of the proposal for the immediate
cessation of hostilities as outlined in Part I, both Governments
accept the following principles as a basis for the formulation of a
truce agreement, the details of which shall be worked out in
discussion between their Representatives and the Commission.

1. (l) As the presence of troops of Pakistan in the territory of the
State of Jammu and Kashmir constitutes a material change in the
situation since it was represented by the Government of Pakistan
before the Security Council, the Government of Pakistan agrees to
withdraw its troops from that State.


(2) The Government of Pakistan will use its best endeavor to secure
the withdrawal from the State of Jammu and Kashmir of tribesmen and
Pakistan nationals not normally resident therein who have entered the
State for the purpose of fighting.


(3) Pending a final solution the territory evacuated by the Pakistan
troops will be administered by the local authorities under the
surveillance of the Commission.


2. (1) When the Commission shall have notified the Government of India
that the tribesmen and Pakistan nationals referred to in Part II A 2
hereof have withdrawn, thereby terminating the situation which was
represented by the Government of India to the Security Council as
having occasioned the presence of Indian forces in the State of Jammu
and Kashmir, and further, that the Pakistan forces are being withdrawn
from the State of Jammu and Kashmir, the Government of India agrees to
begin to withdraw the bulk of their forces from the State in stages to
be agreed upon with the Commission


(2) Pending the acceptance of the conditions for a final settlement of
the situation in the State of Jammu and Kashmir, the Indian Government
will maintain within the lines existing at the moment of cease-fire
the minimum strength of its forces which in agreement with the
Commission are considered necessary to assist local authorities in the
observance of law and order. The Commission will have observers
stationed where it deems necessary.

(3) The Government of India will undertake to ensure that the
Government of the State of Jammu and Kashmir will take all measures
within their power to make it publicly known that peace, law and order
will be safeguarded and that all human and political rights will be
guaranteed.


3. (1) Upon signature, the full text of the Truce Agreement or
communiqué containing the principles thereof as agreed upon between
the two Governments and the Commission, will be made public.


PART III

The Government of India and the Government of Pakistan reaffirm their
wish that the future status of the State of Jammu and Kashmir shall be
determined in accordance with the will of the people and to that end,
upon acceptance of the Truce Agreement both Governments agree to enter
into consultations with the Commission to determine fair and equitable
conditions whereby such free expression will be assured.


*The UNCIP unanimously adopted this Resolution on 13-8-1948.

Members of the Commission: Argentina. Belgium, Columbia,
Czechoslovakia and U.S.A.

*RESOLUTION ADOPTED AT THE MEETING OF THE UNITED NATIONS COMMISSION FOR INDIA AND PAKISTAN ON 5 JANUARY, 1949. (DOCUMENT NO. S/1196, PARA IS, DATED THE 10TH JANUARY, 1949)
Having received from the Governments of India and Pakistan in Communications, dated December 23 and December 25, 1948, respectively their acceptance of the following principles which are supplementary to the Commission's Resolution of August 13, 1948;
The question of the accession of the State of Jammu and Kashmir to India or Pakistan will be decided through the democratic method of a free and impartial plebiscite;
A plebiscite will be held when it shall be found by the Commission that the cease-fire and truce arrangements set forth in Parts I and II of the Commission's resolution of 13 August 1948, have been carried out and arrangements for the plebiscite have been completed;

RESOLUTION 91 (1951) CONCERNING THE INDIA-PAKISTAN QUESTION SUBMITTED BY THE REPRESENTATIVES OF UNITED KINGDOM AND UNITED STATES AND ADOPTED BY THE SECURITY COUNCIL ON MARCH 30, 1951. (DOCUMENT NO. S/2017/REV. I, DATED THE 30TH MARCH, 1951)

Observing that the Governments of India and Pakistan have accepted the provisions of the United Nations Commission for India and Pakistan resolutions of 13 August, 1948, and 5 January, 1949, and have re-affirmed their desire that the future of the State of Jammu and Kashmir shall be decided through the democratic method of a free and impartial plebiscite conducted under the auspices of the United Nations,

*RESOLUTION 98 (1952) ADOPTED BY THE SECURITY COUNCIL AT ITS 611TH MEETING ON 23 DECEMBER, 1952. (DOCUMENT NO. S/2883, DATED THE 24TH DECEMBER, 1952).

THE SECURITY COUNCIL,

Recalling its resolutions, 91 (1951) of 30 March 1951, its decision of 30 April 1951 and its resolution 96 (1951) of 10 November 1951, (which in turn points back to 13 aug 1948)

FF- 1971

RESOLUTION 303 (1971) ADOPTED BY THE SECURITY COUNCIL AT ITS 1606TH MEETING, ON 6 DECEMBER 1971.

THE SECURITY COUNCIL,
Having considered the item on the agenda of its 1606th meeting as contained in document S. Agenda/1606.

Taking into account that the lack of unanimity of its permanent members at the 1606th and 1607th meetings of the Security Council has prevented it from exercising its primary responsibility for the aintenance

on international peace and security,

Decides to refer the question contained in documents S/Agenda/1606 to the General Assembly at its twenty-sixth session, as provided for in Assembly resolution 377 A (V) of 3 November 1950. (which again build on the same 13 Aug 1948 )


RESOLUTION 307 (1971) ADOPTED BY THE SECURITY COUNCIL AT ITS 1616TH MEETING, ON 21 DECEMBER 1971.

THE SECURITY COUNCIL,

doesn't refer to any kashmir specific inquiries, instead talks of 1949 geneva conventios for Pakistani POW's.
 
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This is the most unfortunate ignorance of pakistani members here..... Hell bent on discussing kashmir when they have never read the UN resolution of Kashmir .....

Please for fook sake read!!!!
LOL this resolution that u people keep on posting is not the actual resolution.
The actual one says both nations will with draw. Not just one nation only.

And if everything is hunky dore for u people then why not u people still want to solve this issue according to UN resolution??

Why is yr country still wants no third party to take part in this affair??

Certainly its not what u thing..... everything is NOT sooo smooth for yr Country who is occupying foreign lands.


LOl indian , tribune and NATo sources or some self analysis of Individuals is not valid sources. thank u.
 
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LOL this resolution that u people keep on posting is not the actual resolution.
The actual one says both nations will with draw. Not just one nation only.

And if everything is hunky dore for u people then why not u people still want to solve this issue according to UN resolution??

Why is yr country still wants no third party to take part in this affair??

Certainly its not what u thing..... everything is NOT sooo smooth for yr Country who is occupying foreign lands.



LOl indian , tribune and NATo sources or some self analysis of Individuals is not valid sources. thank u.

ha..ha how easy and quick..you are a shameless man who refuse to accept the reality.
 
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LOL this resolution that u people keep on posting is not the actual resolution.
The actual one says both nations will with draw. Not just one nation only.
Security Council Resolutions 1948

You fool... This is compiled from UN website....

UN Security Council Resolution 47, Kashmir - Council on Foreign Relations

Ignorance has no cure


And if everything is hunky dore for u people then why not u people still want to solve this issue according to UN resolution??

Comprehension problems??? If pakistan doesn't evacuate there is no role of UN resolution... It is upto pakistan to take the first step as they initiated the hostilities.....
Why is yr country still wants no third party to take part in this affair??
Because your country signed on the shimla agreement to solve all problems bilaterally... If agreements/treaties are to be disregard, then pakistan will be at bigger loss....
 
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LOL this resolution that u people keep on posting is not the actual resolution.
The actual one says both nations will with draw. Not just one nation only.

The Maharaja, then ruler of Kashmir invited Indian troops in Kashmir, that's why India was given right to put troops in certain part of Kashmir by UN resolution while Pakistan had to withdraw completely.
 
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Good Job Arundhati. First Shahrukh and now her.

Looks like our friends in India are on a roll. :D



Shahrukh is offered Asylum by Terrorist Saeed, So when such offer is going to given to A Roy?
 
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Shahrukh is offered Asylum by Terrorist Saeed, So when such offer is going to given to A Roy?

The same day when Indian govt will officially ask to hand over terrorist Sarabjit Singh :)
 
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Yes we sure are suffering tourism is booming in Kashmir, IT firms are setting up shop and over 6000 Kashmiri youth have joined the Indian army to fight militants :)
 
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The Maharaja, then ruler of Kashmir invited Indian troops in Kashmir, that's why India was given right to put troops in certain part of Kashmir by UN resolution while Pakistan had to withdraw completely.

LOl live in yr own world then Goodbye.
 
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