India/Russia Working on Stealth for SU30MKI

[mrwarrior006]

@luftwaffe

lca is done dude 40 planes ordered where were u then

wonder why India has the need for MRCA when su-30 can perform both roles of air superiority and attack or i as i said before either su-30 did not live up to their promises.

u asking me
dono wy other countries prefers variation in their fleet

 

[Luftwaffe]

lca final operational clearance has been given? with any squadron@ mrwarrior yes 40 ordered they'll go through many trials..first deal with lca later on move to other projects or best of all spend it on economy.
I was playing xbox360 that time

 

[Thomas]

How they going to make Su-30 more stealthy. Is this include a total design change or just superficial changes.

they could put a RAM coating on it. But that will only reduce RCS a small amount. It will still be hard to hide the bulbous front and huge intakes on the bottom. Not to mention the fact all the weapons are still carried on the exterior of the airframe. RAM coating is high maintenance to.

 

[Luftwaffe]

I think that indian guy mentioned about internal weapons bay..rcs will still be a problem.

 

[Thomas]

I think that indian guy mentioned about internal weapons bay..rcs will still be a problem.

the picture posted looks kinda photo shopped. I don't buy it! Nor would it make sense to do it since India is a partner in the PAK-FA. That's just taking critical money away for PAK-FA production. It's amazing though how stealth has created a mini arms race around the world.

 

[mrwarrior006]

@luftwaffe

lca final operational clearance has been given? with any squadron@ mrwarrior yes 40 ordered they'll go through many trials..first deal with lca later on move to other projects or best of all spend it on economy.
I was playing xbox360 that time

only problem is engine tat we r buying so not to worry its going trail but successfull trails so no problem

mean while i was playing on pc

 

[Storm Force]

Luftwaffe.

India Modernastion is as follows.

230 SU30MKI by 2015.-2016.

PAK FA will NOT enter service til 2020. When it does it replace 200 Jaguar /mirage2000/ mig29smt . This alone wil take till 2030

In the mean time

India will start to replace 120 migmig21 bison with TEJAS MK1 (40 PLANES) IN 2012. iN 2015 MK2 tejas with euro engine x 80 planes by 2020-2022

Alongside this will come 126 mrca winner which will be Typhoon or F18S/H to start around 2013 to 2021. Engine commona;lity with tejas

In short

IAF by 2021

230mki + 126 F18/SH + 120 LCA + 200 JAG/MIG29/MIRAGE2000UP. = 650 PLANES

IAF 2030 4 COMBAT TYPES

220 SU30 MKI heavey MR
120+ pak fa STEALTH
120 mmrca MEDUIM MR
120-140 tejas LIGHT MR

This is at they are aiming for

** They will also have 3 carriers by 2025 with over 100 fighters

 

[Storm Force]

Lets not confuse Stealth with RCS reduction...

The project smartskin is to reduce RCS from 5ms to under 1msq.

Its big reduction BUT NOT STEALTH.

ITS SIMILAR TO USA F15 SILENT EAGLE PROJECT

ITS NOT A JSF/F22 or indeed PAK FA stealth plane.

The rest of the pgrade is a new AESA radar and better electronic warefare suites and new 300km bvr missles

 

[Red Dwarf]

IAF by 2021

230mki + 126 F18/SH + 120 LCA + 200 JAG/MIG29/MIRAGE2000UP. = 650 PLANES

IAF 2030 4 COMBAT TYPES

220 SU30 MKI heavey MR
120+ pak fa STEALTH
120 mmrca MEDUIM MR
120-140 tejas LIGHT MR

All these AC need highly specialized pilots. You got any information on the training aircraft that India going to use.

 

[Storm Force]

no info on training dwarf.

MMRCA will come with trainers 2 seaters up to 18 i believe of the 126 total nos.

TEJAS has its own 2 seat version ready already PV4 i think

And PAK FA well thats 10 years away yet. ???

 

[Hulk]

The best thing is that we have an upgrade plan for MKI while it is still new. This means that the defense ministry is doing good job. MKI will become even better in days to come.

 

[UchihaCG]

The best thing is that we have an upgrade plan for MKI while it is still new. This means that the defense ministry is doing good job. MKI will become even better in days to come.

Yes indeed..... but we need to do something about those 2 crashes yar; can't happen again.

Better improvements means no aircraft in PAF and China's inventory match the MKI.

 

[faithfulguy]

Yes indeed..... but we need to do something about those 2 crashes yar; can't happen again.

Better improvements means no aircraft in PAF and China's inventory match the MKI.

I don't think the US has anything that matches MKI.

 

[Iggy]

Stealth for SU30

Let me add to your knowledge RCS of SU30 is much more than JF-17 it means SU30 is much more visible on radar than JF-17.
remember..americans told you same after red flag.
Ram coating which indian geniouses are applying today on their SU30 is a copy from JF-17 development.
PAKFA joint contract with russia is also a lesson learned from JF-17 development.
Their is a long list but lets keep limited to the discussion so far.

Ah..i thought its indians doing the painting job!!!!
To verify if PAKFA is not copying any thing from JF-17 in design...we need pictures of PAKFA! do you have any?
BTW.... i believe even the name 'PAKFA' is copy from Pakistan.

thanks man ..You made my day

 

[faithfulguy]

thanks man ..You made my day

Russians start to get careless and following bad examples by declaring the existence of a weapon before its working.