RIP: Russia and India Had Big Plans to Build a Deadly Stealth Fighter. What Happened?

[SrNair]

yeah very clear to trapped in middle of Russia France and USA .can not go back can not go ahead . think it when you keep nationalism aside for few minutes . if you can not see bad things about your country you are blind patriot .
russia say buy su-57 and got S-400
US say do not buy S-400 or else santions
US say will not sale you F-35 unless you buy f-16-f-18
France in other hand pumped money in bribes and there is no return from rafale .

What ?
There is no patriotism regarding this statement .
We are not going for war tomorrow .
We have plenty of time , developing R &D and money .
Let them finish FGFA we will buy like S u 30 (but we knows it will take at least one decade).
For that US senior officials visited India we told them the location of door .
US cant dictate India ,they are not that powerful not anymore.
IAF already cleared that we are not interested in F 35 .You need links .?

Our leadership is at another level they are not corrupt that is why they are much powerful.
Rafale deal is just good.
All expense including maintenance covered in 8 billion.

time will tell brother no need to argument we have already destroyed thousands of pages on MMRCA and nothing come out .lets wait both of us enjoy

This is what we can see through this development .We have money but not for wasting .
You know what Russians started to induct Mig 29 K after we pumped money in to it .
We dont want to prosper them .
We have enough time .

AMCA would not be a 5th gen stealth fighter. It would just be a twin engine MMRCA. India would still need F-35 or Su-57.

So be it .
That is how the development happens .
Stages are already set .
LCA gave us all experience .
Now ADA knows how to manage such big projects

truth hurts dear sorry i went bold but that is true . where are 120+80 MMRCA which were being destroying us since 2002 ?
where are 150 LCA +100 for navy which rule the sky since 1990 ?

all in all you guys can point score here only .

MMRCA sure .
Mismanagenent happened .
LCA is success .
They knows how to handle it

 

[MultaniGuy]

Check your history again, it is only when you had good relations with US your economy blossomed, be it during the 50s, 60s, 70s or early 2000s. You guys gained a lot by being in the US camp.

That was when there was a USSR (USA's rival) and the War on Terrorism.

Otherwise USA doesn't give a damn for Pakistan. You think USA would? LOL!

 

[hussain0216]

Better than the numerous threads on su series for PAF or s400s when no money was paid or the buyer has said they were even interested in selling one.

Their are no numerous articles, this is the thing

On occasion a fanboy might get over exited and its normally Pakistanis themselves that end the discussion


With indians its article after article, thread after thread of endless bull plop

You humiliate yourselves when things fall apart


This is fine on your crazybhakt.com but not on PDF

 

[Imran Khan]

Where?

C-17
apache
P-8
C-130J
CH-47
drones
M777
so on

 

[randomradio]

once you gripped in US hands its really hard to get away . these are things we warn and laugh on indians long times . as more as india buy US weapons they will tight grip on india .

We are not worried about that. India is too big a country for that.

You shouldn't forget that India was the principle driving force behind the NAM. We were able to completely shut out the Americans and the Soviets out of Africa.

Sorry to say this govt waisted precious /4 years. ..no fgfa,no s400.. .rafale 36 out 126 tendered....don't have much hope from this govt...I think we don't have enough money that's why buying free time....

This govt actually saved the IAF.

The IAF is now assured of 72 Rafales and 324 LCA/MCAs.

Isn't India making a stealth fighter on its own?

Yep. That's why there was no point in developing the FGFA. Rather, we can just buy the Russian version, it's good enough.

 

[Maxpane]

Good luck india

 

[randomradio]

India seeks S-400 missile systems; Moscow may link deal to FGFA project

https://www.ibtimes.co.in/india-seeks-s-400-missile-systems-moscow-may-link-deal-fgfa-project-651848

By linking Sale of S-400 to Pak-fa, Russia is Blackmailing India: Indian Defence Analyst

http://idrw.org/by-linking-sale-of-...is-blackmailing-india-indian-defence-analyst/

We backed out of FGFA in Feb.

But this is from yesterday.
https://www.rt.com/news/425164-russia-india-missile-supplies/
"At the moment, all the technical issues are already discussed and agreed upon. It only remains to find common ground regarding the price and conduct the necessary procedures," FSMTC head Dmitry Shugaev told Interfax. "I think that this year will get to the point of signing the relevant contract papers."

Capability jump: IAF looks to buy fifth-generation F-35 fighter

Sources close to the Pentagon say India would not be sold the F-35 as long as it is partnering Russia in the FGFA co-development project. That is because Washington would guard against the leakage of F-35 technology into the FGFA.

http://www.business-standard.com/ar...h-generation-f-35-fighter-118021401246_1.html

http://indianexpress.com/article/in...ighter-jet-says-iaf-chief-b-s-dhanoa-5082304/
“We have not officially asked for a briefing on the F-35 nor has any request been made to the Americans,” IAF Chief Air Chief Marshal BS Dhanoa told The Indian Express.

India-Russia defence deals face US sanctions as Donald Trump tries to punish Vladimir Putin

http://zeenews.india.com/india/some...ire-of-sanctions-on-russian-arms-2102776.html

Then we will get sanctioned and we will continue buying Russian, Israeli and Europeans weapons, as we always have.

This is incredible. I have never received a response where someone disagreed with everything in spite of overwhelming evidence..

Are you certain you even know which country you are from?

Ofcorse India does not have unlimited fund, but sufficient enough to have more than one option to choose from.

Too many wannabe Indians here.

This is why the indians are so annoying and why you cant take their holy cow shit seriously

They dont wait, such blabber senselessly about tejas tejas tejas, fgfa fgfa fgfa, 126 Raphaels

Sour grapes?

France in other hand pumped money in bribes and there is no return from rafale .

If you somehow managed to provide proof of this to Rahul Gandhi, you will be richer than a Saudi billionaire.

 

[Jugger]

Isn't India making a stealth fighter on its own?

For that to happen we need transfer of technology and for that to happen we need to buy a stealth fighter in bulk.
There are only two options available currently i.e Russia and USA.

 

[SrNair]

C-17
apache
P-8
C-130J
CH-47
drones
M777
so on

Look at these list.
All these assets have a Russian alternative except M 777.
Americans are nowhere near to the our core inventory .
We paid billions because we need something politically in this world .
And we got that .

 

[#hydra#]

Ofcorse India does not have unlimited fund, but sufficient enough to have more than one option to choose from.

Yeah,mere 36 Rafael.

 

[PurpleStone]

But this is from yesterday.
https://www.rt.com/news/425164-russia-india-missile-supplies/
"At the moment, all the technical issues are already discussed and agreed upon. It only remains to find common ground regarding the price and conduct the necessary procedures," FSMTC head Dmitry Shugaev told Interfax. "I think that this year will get to the point of signing the relevant contract papers."

And this is from Aug 19, 2014 when India & Russia were in talks about India procuring S-400.

Talks Talks and nothing else other than talks...

http://www.brahmand.com/news/Russia...ce-system--license-for-export/12696/1/10.html

http://indianexpress.com/article/in...ighter-jet-says-iaf-chief-b-s-dhanoa-5082304/
“We have not officially asked for a briefing on the F-35 nor has any request been made to the Americans,” IAF Chief Air Chief Marshal BS Dhanoa told The Indian Express.

Just posturing to avoid the corelation between India pulling out of FGFA and India going for F-35. The F-35 cat would be out of the bag soon.

Then we will get sanctioned and we will continue buying Russian, Israeli and Europeans weapons, as we always have.

No. India would fully dump Russia and would increase buying more and more US weapons.

Are you certain you even know which country you are from?

Who I am is not important. Confront the message not the messenger.

 

[#hydra#]

Look at these list.
All these assets have a Russian alternative except M 777.
Americans are nowhere near to the our core inventory .
We paid billions because we need something politically in this world .
And we got that .

Tell me p8 Russian equivalent,and there is no Russian drone too. But rest of the thing,there is russian alternate wquiequip.

 

[SrNair]

Tell me p8 Russian equivalent,and there is no Russian drone too. But rest of the thing,there is russian alternate wquiequip.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilyushin_Il-38
Agreed no drone .But drones are just a force multiplier

 

[randomradio]

Who I am is not important. Confront the message not the messenger.

Dude, you are just a wannabe Indian. Change your flags to the right country first.

 

[PurpleStone]

Dude, you are just a wannabe Indian. Change your flags to the right country first.