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How to destroy India's S-400 missile depot's
Russia may target Ukrainian S-300 missiles depots using Ka-52.
Russia has already plans to take out S-300 Ukrainian missiles depots as counter measurements. They have specific helicopters designed for these types of offensive. The ka-52 attack helicopters.
The alternative to helicopters is to send swarm of drones equipped with beacon radars homing device zero in on s-400 missiles depots inside Indian territory.
China has supplied Pakistan with specialized drones for this purpose but need to be tested.
Some military experts were pointed out that in the event of active hostilities, Russia might use Ka-52 helicopters to destroy surface-to-air missile (SAM) sites in the South of Ukraine.
Babak Taghvaee, a military analyst based in Malta, claimed in a tweet that at least several consecutive days the 3rd Squadron of the 39th Helicopter Aviation Regiment has practiced Suppression of Enemy Air Defenses (SEAD) mission using Ka-52 attacks helicopters.
He added: “It means, in case of war with Ukraine, its 16 Ka-52s might be used to destroy SAM sites near the frontline.”
During a SEAD mission, pilots fly into enemy airspace to find and suppress surface-to-air missile systems, radars on the ground. This unique mission set is important because without it all the other aircraft are essentially unprotected from surface-to-air missiles.
In modern warfare SEAD missions can constitute as much as 30% of all sorties launched in the first week of combat and continue at a reduced rate through the rest of a campaign.
R1
Helicopters can certainly perform the SEAD mission given the right terrain, positioning, and avenues of attack; but these numbers are somewhat misleading — SEAD constituting “30% of all sorties” doesn’t mean all those strikes are going to be going against S-300’s. That includes SEAD packages going after AAA and older-generation SAMs as well. And while the Ka-52 can certainly threaten the S-300 with the right tactics and a Kh-25 package, they would be extremely vulnerable and likely lose a lot of aircraft against a prepared defender with supporting MANPADS and SHORAD defenses. If Russia wants to kill Ukrainian S-300’s, they are best off using Flankers or ideally Su-57s.
R2
Yeah, especially given the flat flat terrain in Southern Ukraine. It would be difficult for the alligators (Ka-52) to hide, whereas S-300s are routinely deployed behind earth berms (with S2S missiles in mind). Indeed, Su-57 might have a good shot, but the risk to lose face is also significant. Ukraine does have a serious engineering base in electronics, after all.
R3
Isn’t it somewhat common practice to place SHORAD and/or some MANPADs around the longer range Anti-Air to help negate raids like this?
R4
While the US used attack helicopters to take out some SAM sites in the 1991 Iraq War, this job is normally handled by specialized fighter jet units. I would think the Russians would have done likewise too.
Source https://www.quora.com/q/bjdjvnuigzn...rainian-S-300-with-Ka-52?ch=10&share=6c04043d
Russia may target Ukrainian S-300 missiles depots using Ka-52.
Russia has already plans to take out S-300 Ukrainian missiles depots as counter measurements. They have specific helicopters designed for these types of offensive. The ka-52 attack helicopters.
The alternative to helicopters is to send swarm of drones equipped with beacon radars homing device zero in on s-400 missiles depots inside Indian territory.
China has supplied Pakistan with specialized drones for this purpose but need to be tested.
Some military experts were pointed out that in the event of active hostilities, Russia might use Ka-52 helicopters to destroy surface-to-air missile (SAM) sites in the South of Ukraine.
Babak Taghvaee, a military analyst based in Malta, claimed in a tweet that at least several consecutive days the 3rd Squadron of the 39th Helicopter Aviation Regiment has practiced Suppression of Enemy Air Defenses (SEAD) mission using Ka-52 attacks helicopters.
He added: “It means, in case of war with Ukraine, its 16 Ka-52s might be used to destroy SAM sites near the frontline.”
During a SEAD mission, pilots fly into enemy airspace to find and suppress surface-to-air missile systems, radars on the ground. This unique mission set is important because without it all the other aircraft are essentially unprotected from surface-to-air missiles.
In modern warfare SEAD missions can constitute as much as 30% of all sorties launched in the first week of combat and continue at a reduced rate through the rest of a campaign.
R1
Helicopters can certainly perform the SEAD mission given the right terrain, positioning, and avenues of attack; but these numbers are somewhat misleading — SEAD constituting “30% of all sorties” doesn’t mean all those strikes are going to be going against S-300’s. That includes SEAD packages going after AAA and older-generation SAMs as well. And while the Ka-52 can certainly threaten the S-300 with the right tactics and a Kh-25 package, they would be extremely vulnerable and likely lose a lot of aircraft against a prepared defender with supporting MANPADS and SHORAD defenses. If Russia wants to kill Ukrainian S-300’s, they are best off using Flankers or ideally Su-57s.
R2
Yeah, especially given the flat flat terrain in Southern Ukraine. It would be difficult for the alligators (Ka-52) to hide, whereas S-300s are routinely deployed behind earth berms (with S2S missiles in mind). Indeed, Su-57 might have a good shot, but the risk to lose face is also significant. Ukraine does have a serious engineering base in electronics, after all.
R3
Isn’t it somewhat common practice to place SHORAD and/or some MANPADs around the longer range Anti-Air to help negate raids like this?
R4
While the US used attack helicopters to take out some SAM sites in the 1991 Iraq War, this job is normally handled by specialized fighter jet units. I would think the Russians would have done likewise too.
Source https://www.quora.com/q/bjdjvnuigzn...rainian-S-300-with-Ka-52?ch=10&share=6c04043d
