Russia 'expects' Fateh-110 and Zolfaghar and other missiles from Iran

[TheImmortal]

i expect mid or end december when the "roll it all up"-offensive of Russia crush the frost with their boots.

You don’t conduct major offensives in Winter in Eastern Europe. Have we not learned anything from Napoleon and Nazi Germany?

 

[Ich]

You don’t conduct major offensives in Winter in Eastern Europe. Have we not learned anything from Napoleon and Nazi Germany?

Who cares. Last winter Russia did offensive and made gains.

 

[TheImmortal]

Who cares. Last winter Russia did offensive and made gains.

Incremental gains, nothing dramatic after losing most of their blitzkreig invasion gains in 2022.

Nothing Russia buys from Iran will change the reality on the ground. I said this regarding Russia after their blitzkrieg failed and was mocked. People thought Ukraine was gonna collapse after 1-3 months.

Russia is both Saddam in 1980’s and Iran in 1980’s. Like Iran in the sense that It is facing the wrath of the western support in the tune of $200B+ in aid. But also like Saddam in the sense that the invasion that was supposed to be quick and easy has stalled and become a war of attrition.

Without more boots on the ground it doesn’t matter much what Russia buys from Iran. You need manpower to take land/positions. The Syrian War proved that recently as well previous battles in history.

It is widely taught in military strategy that the attacker taking a position or land from a defender should carry a 3 to 1 advantage in manpower to overcome natural defender advantage. Along most of the front lines Russian troops are either outnumbered or at best evenly numbered. In some cases they were outnumbered as high as 20 to 1 (Kharkov region prior to retreating).

Moscow is trying to win a land war using ~200K against an opponent that has done a quasi full mobilization of its population. Hard to win a land war in the biggest European country by size with that many troops.

 

[Ich]

Incremental gains, nothing dramatic after losing most of their blitzkreig invasion gains in 2022.

Nothing Russia buys from Iran will change the reality on the ground. I said this regarding Russia after their blitzkrieg failed and was mocked. People thought Ukraine was gonna collapse after 1-3 months.

Russia is both Saddam in 1980’s and Iran in 1980’s. Like Iran in the sense that It is facing the wrath of the western support in the tune of $200B+ in aid. But also like Saddam in the sense that the invasion that was supposed to be quick and easy has stalled and become a war of attrition.

Without more boots on the ground it doesn’t matter much what Russia buys from Iran. You need manpower to take land/positions. The Syrian War proved that recently as well previous battles in history.

It is widely taught in military strategy that the attacker taking a position or land from a defender should carry a 3 to 1 advantage in manpower to overcome natural defender advantage. Along most of the front lines Russian troops are either outnumbered or at best evenly numbered. In some cases they were outnumbered as high as 20 to 1 (Kharkov region prior to retreating).

Moscow is trying to win a land war using ~200K against an opponent that has done a quasi full mobilization of its population. Hard to win a land war in the biggest European country by size with that many troops.

Also russias economic crashed and amunition fade out....ah, wait, its the other way round: All West said does not come true...

 

[Bengal71]

That s right

There must not be stupid red lines in order to pass military technologies to Iran, Iran must grow fast, Russia must help Iran now, to be helped and assisted in the future.

Future of Russia is a sea of wars.

Not very long ago Russia was looking for validation of the west and refusing to handover S-300 missile systems to Iran even after getting paid. They are not Iran's friends or allies, they are Machiavellians. Iran should be the same, now that they are in trouble and need Iran's help, this is a great opportunity. Help them but extract a pound of flesh.

 

[ReasonableStar75]

Not very long ago Russia was looking for validation of the west and refusing to handover S-300 missile systems to Iran even after getting paid. They are not Iran's friends or allies, they are Machiavellians. Iran should be the same, now that they are in trouble and need Iran's help, this is a great opportunity. Help them but extract a pound of flesh.

Absolutely right, in no way i m talking about give things for free, but unfourtunately Iran is not pushing so strong in air force, and Iran needs a push in air force in form of SU-35S and SU-57.

It s a nice agreement to trade with Russia for these things. I seek only the interest of Iran, i don t care how Russia does in Ukraine. If it s needed to sell ballisitc missiles for these SUs go ahead.

Both countries Iran and Russia must give a shit about US sanctions and interests.

 

[TheImmortal]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1710571100021698683

https://twitter.com/x/status/1710591379254952214

 

[buntalanlucu]

It is beneficial for RUSSIA to buy cheap and already-made weapons from iran , when they are used against incompetent UKR nazi troops equipped with modern western gear that cannot counter even iranian weapons. I hope Russia also help Iran modernize their weapon systems , so they are more deadly and will be super effective against the upcoming war with US.

 

[Deez Nutz]

Just getting sick of russia expecting help from Iran after it repeatedly stabbed Iran in the back. It is time for Iran to pay back russia for all its treachery. Let them bury themselves in Ukraine, russia's defeat and destruction is in Iran's better interest.
Opposing russia in Ukraine rather than supporting them could've thawed the Ice, and would have gotten the regime plenty of sanction relief without compromising nuclear, missile, and drone programs.
Even now, if Iz/US/NATO attack Iran, Russia will not hesitate to side with them not Iran as they have done in the past. Russia has been using the delivery of SU35s that Iran paid for, against F16s delivery to Ukraine, meanwhile, russia gifted NK with the entire production lines of MIG29 and RD33, but nothing to Iran except a knife in the back, AGAIN.
Of course, let's not forget, russia delivered to Iran two worn-out "egg" Yoke-130s , Iran didn't need, for the price of 50 brand new SU35. lololololol.

We saw, how delighted these azari Supreme Cheerleaders (SC) were when the two junky Yoker 130s arrived in Iran. There was confetti all over this forum by these azaris, telling us how useful those yokers can be and how they can defeat the entire west now that they have two russian Yokers. Unbelievable,.,,, LOLOLOL.

RUSSIA MUST EXPECT "DEEZ NUTZ", instead. ALL SHAVED, POLISHED, AND WAXED, READY to USE.

 

[Kompromat]

Low cost Iranian missiles can wreak havoc against Ukraine.

 

[hari sud]

For your benefit I will count sourcing of military hardware by US for Ukraine war from so many countries. US alone cannot supply all. Their reserves are running low:

US ….. Bulk of advanced weaponry.
UK …… Advanced weaponry
Germany……Advanced Weaponry.
‘France……… Advanced weaponry

Poland, Sweden, Norway, Pakistan, Italy, Spain, Australia and many more NATO and non NATO countries.

Irony is that all that $125 billion in military hardware in Ukraine hands has given US backed Ukraine any victory.

There is already war lethargy in America. There is lesser interest in defeating Russia because elections are looming. Usually a war time president looses.
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[aziqbal]

Fateh 110 and Zulfi missiles will be part of any opening salvo on all US bases in the Middle East if any attack on Iran was to take place