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Dont know what shit you are hooked on...
prepare to read more shyt below your post by ptldm3
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Dont know what shit you are hooked on...
all that considered its a strategic blunder by the navy to opt for mig-29k for aircraft carriers.
though its good enough for pakistan but not anywhere else,at least a better radar was must,maybe a better irst too.
that would have made all the diff
prepare to read more shyt below your post by ptldm3...these folks are really delusional.
And yall just enjoy denial, don't u?
Sigh.. so establishes facts are fairy tales. Not surprised coming from my neighbor.Your fairly tales are nothig but internet gossip. Show me the list of kills Russian Missiles have scored in 'actual combat', then we'll compare it to the Sidewinder and AMRAAMs 'combat record'....truth will be established and all fairy tales would be put to rest.
u cant compare russian tech with american tech.... they are like atleast 20 years ahead of you guys...
priciselli bhai ....good postThe problem here is american tech eco system is advanced than any other country in the world. As far as PAF is concern they have very limited tech F-16s which is not compatible / limited compatibility with chinese tech. On the other hand Mig-29upg India got has all the advance tech Russia developed along with Israeli and French techs too. Same goes for weapons. PAF has very limited not upto date weapons and radars for F-16s and therefore they cannot boast what USAF did with their F-16s they can also do the same. USAF F-16s and PAF F-16s are in totally different league. As Sancho mentioned in his earlier post that JF-17 is more advanced than PAF F-16s in many respects.
I guess you mean the missile seeker, R73 is given with 35 to 40° afaik, only later generation missiles like AIM 9X, MICA, IRIS-T or Python V had higher capabilities.
@Abingdonboy made a nice post about the R73 trials of LCA, with the Dash HMS:
LCA Tejas at Iron Fist 2013 | Page 3
wellbro ok if we take as a rule then do you realli think indian pilots are untrained or have any less skills as compared to PAF pilots if yes then why so please do tell me im waitingWhat I tried to say that, Can Pilot with topsight helmet look over his shoulder and and lock on to to plane on it's tail and fire missile?
I'm asking this because, topsight specs says it has 20 Degree operating capability and I also saw a video of your last year "large scale AF exercises" where one pilot slightly tilting it's head to right fire a missile to a plane and on that thread someone mentioned.
If that's the case, Then AIM-9M with JHMCS also also provides a limited off boresight capability, I concur not as advance as R-73 but it gets the job done by looking left or right with JHMCS.
What I'm trying to say, It all boils down to Pilot skills. Similar technology is employed on both planes.
wellbro ok if we take as a rule then do you realli think indian pilots are untrained or have any less skills as compared to PAF pilots if yes then why so please do tell me im waiting
well bro check the correct facts even indian pilots have acsess to such exersise and we do it on regular basis with almost all the major air forces and im not that good at googling but thing is even owr MIG 21 gave a very hard time to F16s and some others in recent exersises not to mention MKIsWith introduction of SU-30 in 1995-96 and better access to tech, IAF pilots have become proficient. In distant and recent WVR exercises that PAF participated, unofficially F-16 pilots scored a kill against Euro Fighter and Once again this year exercises with Saudis, unofficially they scored a kill against their Euro fighters and F-15.
I know, I know unofficial is such a turn off for you indians. The first eurofighter kill was mentioned in Air international article by Alan Warnes, the second saudi encounter is again mentioned by Alan warnes and it's just just like Rafael pilots and french officials unofficially leaked it's WVR combat results with F-22 and then video came
well bro check the correct facts even indian pilots have acsess to such exersise and we do it on regular basis with almost all the major air forces and im not that good at googling but thing is even owr MIG 21 gave a very hard time to F16s and some others in recent exersises not to mention MKIs
but thats not the point what i was curious about your earlier post was when yopu pointed owt that HMS capabilities of both MIG 29 SMT and F 16 Blk 52 are simmilar(i ask some person like sancho to tell us in detail) and that PAF pilots have an edge deu there skills im simpalli asking do you realli think thats all that matters in an arial bettle and indian pilots are any less skill full or undertrained if yes then how please care to explain ...thanks in advance
You see, We are discussing WVR scenario in this thread and MIG-21 and F-16 scenario was a BVR one.
Yup I do love to here IAF WVR results in exercises with other AF. IIRC the British AF pilot in it's debriefing did mention SU-30 amazing maneuverability due to it's TVR and dual engine but we are here discussing MIG-29.
What I believe F-16 Pilot of PAF will have a upper hand in WVR.
And by upper hand I doesn't mean IAF aren't skillful. For your own understanding. 19/20 wali situation. 20 being PAF pilot
You see, We are discussing WVR scenario in this thread and MIG-21 and F-16 scenario was a BVR one.
Yup I do love to here IAF WVR results in exercises with other AF. IIRC the British AF pilot in it's debriefing did mention SU-30 amazing maneuverability due to it's TVR and dual engine but we are here discussing MIG-29.
What I believe F-16 Pilot of PAF will have a upper hand in WVR.
And by upper hand I doesn't mean IAF aren't skillful. For your own understanding. 19/20 wali situation. 20 being PAF pilot