Greece Joins Israel-USA Military Exercise in Southern Mediterranean

[silko]

lol at people believing USA would sell out Turkey for Greece in a time like this.

i could understand if it was the 70's, but now... please!

we are even more important to USA than Israel is.

 

[Cerian]

I'd say Turks are more concerned with their economy than Israel, i happen to know Turks who don't see Israel as an enemy.
If Ataturk were alive today, Erdogen would be in prison and no terrorist wannabe ships would have been sent anywhere near Israel.

If any terrorism happened in that boat, it was Israeli Navy soldiers who did it, not the activists.

while AKP does not need to bow to extremist Muslims because the party is filled with them. They are undoing many of the things that Ataturk envisioned for the republic.

Extremist party wouldn't promote to join and be active in every possible international organization and get praises for doing so. On the other hand, every international organization is evil and anti-Semites according to Israeli politicians.

Also I totally agree with you that AKP's policies change the Turkey in a way that Ataturk wouldn't envisioned for; plural society, democratic and accountable governance , secular but not anti-religious.

 

[amalakas]

Perhaps, but that doesnt change the fact that south side Cyprus' control over natural gas reserves will change the situation in Cyprus dramaticly. Making Greek south side richer than ever and making TRNC even more poor and miserable.

Turkish Cypriots have every right over the island's natural sources and we can't let anyone violate those rights.

Their rights were violated when Turkey chose the way of separatism over one island one people. That is the real issue.

Well, only Turkey recognizes mini-Turkey as a sovereign state while Cyprus is an internationally recognized state.
Why doesn't Turkey help mini-Turkey explore for Natural Resources around their territorial waters? It's logical to think there are more in the area.

Northern cyprus mock state does not have rights to the islands resources, legal ones, because it is not an officially recognised state, only an occupied area.

The cypriot and Greek stance has always been, one island one people, the Cypriot people.

It was a mistake to intervene with the islands politics, Greeks paid for this, but over time, it seems Turkish-cypriots paid more, because they have suffered isolation and dilution by the thousands of turkish settles who "just happened to find their way to cyprus" over the years.

 

[LegionnairE]

@Amalakas I was wondering where you've been Wellcome back

At least we both Agree that the island must either be divided or united. This situation can't be maintained any longer.

 

[500]

a military exercise attempting to intimidate Turkey HAHAHAHAHA how pathetic

Only one who is intimidating is your Erdogan. But everyone ignores him.

Erdogan to China why you kill Yugurs?!!! This is Genocide!!!
China - wut?
Erdogan: sorry sorry I did not mean.

Erdogan to India: Why u kill in kashmir!!! This is Genocide!!1
India - wut?
Erdogan: sorry sorry, I did not mean it.

Erdogan to Cyprus: Stop the drills or else!!
Cyprus: ignore the troll
Erdogan: .....

Erdogan to Israel: We will excort ships to Hamas terrorists in Gaza with our Navy!!
Israel: ignore the troll
Erdogan: ....

Erdohan to Iran: we are best friends, you have right to build nuclear reactors!
USA: Put radar against Iran
Erdogan: Yes sir!

Erdohan to Iran: we still are best friends, we are against sanctions!
USA: Cut 20% of Iranian oil.
Erdogan: Yes sir!

And no I've never been to Israel, but i don't think I'd be treated very good.(yeah call it prejudice) You know, before the Mavi Marmara incident only hardcore islamists supported Erdogan's Israel policy. But after that, you took whole Turkish nation in front of you. Even kemalists hate Israeli government now.

So basically you provide another evidence that Mavi Marmara was carefully planned AKP provocation.

 

[Quasar]

(Also I totally agree with you that AKP's policies change the Turkey in a way that Ataturk wouldn't envisioned for; plural society, democratic and accountable governance , secular but not anti-religious.)



thanks to adülmecit, egemen bağış, sepultura and Turkish Air Force s new F 16 50 + for this plural society, democratic and accountable governance , secular but not anti-religious system!

 

[LegionnairE]

So basically you provide another evidence that Mavi Marmara was carefully planned AKP provocation.

I didn't say that, I only said Israeli navy's bloody yet amateurish intervention raised a hate towards Israeli government even between those who does not support Erdogan and proved Erdogan right.

Im trying to tell you that you made a very stupid mistake but you understand what you want to understand

@quasar and cerian. keep your AKP propaganda -or whatever else you are doing- out of this thread can you? It's in every other thread allready

 

[Cerian]

Also I totally agree with you that AKP's policies change the Turkey in a way that Ataturk wouldn't envisioned for; plural society, democratic and accountable governance , secular but not anti-religious.



thanks to adülmecit, egemen bağış, sepultura and Turkish Air Force s new F 16 50 + for this plural society, democratic and accountable governance , secular but not anti-religious system!

I really didn't see what you did there. Can you explain your sarcasm a bit more?

 

[500]

I didn't say that, I only said Israeli navy's bloody yet amateurish intervention raised a hate towards Israeli government even between those who does not support Erdogan and proved Erdogan right.

Im trying to tell you that you made a very stupid mistake but you understand what you want to understand

@quasar and cerian. keep your AKP propaganda out of this thread can you? It's in every other thread allready

There was not an ounce of humanitarian aid on Mavi Marmara, but it contained hundreds violent terror supporters who dreamt to became Shahids. What was the purpose of that ship other than create a provocation?

 

[silko]

The cypriot and Greek stance has always been, one island one people, the Cypriot people.

that's why i always see the greek flag in Cypriot parades and people in south associating themself as greek cypriots rather than cypriots...

there is the equal ammount of idiots in souther part to, don't try to hide it. people going around screaming "remove the Turkish flag from Cyprus" yet they are the ones who havge greek flags in their home and towns.

that wasn't the case in the 70's when the idiot backed by YOUR government said. "kill all the Turks" "this island belongs to the greeks" "exterminate them (the Turks)"

when did the Turkish part of Cyprus stirr up to war? the government didn't protect the Turkish citizens of Cyprus so someone had to do it. and since Greece a dictatorship in that time backed the idiot who promoted killings of Turks in Cyprus and GB didn't care we had to do it. and you Greeks still believe we did it because of what? imperialism, spread by your stupid military junta. why didn't you interveene and stop the "evil turks" from occupying?

i forgot, you where to busy advising your puppet in Cyprus in how to kill the "evil Turks"

There was not an ounce of humanitarian aid on Mavi Marmara, but it contained hundreds violent terror supporters who dreamt to became Shahids. What was the purpose of that ship other than create a provocation?

don't act like the Israeli commandos where angles...

the report also concluded that Israel used UNNECESSARY FORCE and could use other methods to stop the ships other than storming it.

 

[King Solomon]

What else can poor little Greece do?

 

[Deno]

Erdogan to China why you kill Yugurs?!!! This is Genocide!!!
China - wut?
Erdogan: sorry sorry I did not mean.

Erdogan to India: Why u kill in kashmir!!! This is Genocide!!1
India - wut?
Erdogan: sorry sorry, I did not mean it.

Erdogan to Cyprus: Stop the drills or else!!
Cyprus: ignore the troll
Erdogan: .....

Erdogan to Israel: We will excort ships to Hamas terrorists in Gaza with our Navy!!
Israel: ignore the troll
Erdogan: ....

Erdohan to Iran: we are best friends, you have right to build nuclear reactors!
USA: Put radar against Iran
Erdogan: Yes sir!

Erdohan to Iran: we still are best friends, we are against sanctions!
USA: Cut 20% of Iranian oil.
Erdogan: Yes sir!

Laughted my @rse off!!!!

 

[Armstrong]

lol at people believing USA would sell out Turkey for Greece in a time like this.

i could understand if it was the 70's, but now... please!

we are even more important to USA than Israel is.

Unless the Evangelicals in the US have changed their stance or the Israeli lobby isn't as influential anymore as it was or somehow, despite evidence to the contrary, Turkey isn't being discriminated against, whether its joining EU or the image of Turkey turning into an Islamist state propagated by the media - I seriously doubt that Statement !

 

[PteX]

Maybe, but that doesn't change the fact that you did just what Erdogan wanted. I don't see Israel as enemy. I see Israel as a possible threat that should be taken into account.

You have bigger problems than Israel, Iran and Syria for one.
We should start thinking of ways to improve the relationship to what it once was rather than consider each other as threats(I do not consider Turkey a threat even with Erdogan).

When Erdogan allowed this boat to arrive near the blockade of Gaze, he willingly and knowingly allowed terrorists with knives and steel weapons to be used against Israeli soldiers.
If it were any other country, the entire ship would have been sunk like France, Britain, Russia and many others did.

 

[LegionnairE]

There was not an ounce of humanitarian aid on Mavi Marmara, but it contained hundreds violent terror supporters who dreamt to became Shahids. What was the purpose of that ship other than create a provocation?

So what? You didn't have to shoot them, after that you could have apologised at least for that young man named Furkan have died for nothing. You let this become a political incident and it proved Erdogan right. Even in here you keep defending yourself trying to prove yourself right but you won't change anything because that's what is being expected from you already

You have bigger problems than Israel, Iran and Syria for one.
We should start thinking of ways to improve the relationship to what it once was rather than consider each other as threats(I do not consider Turkey a threat even with Erdogan).

I don't think that's necessary. See? you've already found a new ally Greece