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Who?Some TT did a major F*&^% up
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Who?Some TT did a major F*&^% up
One of the ideas of revamping I had is awarding prestige points. A member can be awarded prestige points(kind of like ratings) on non troll/serious posts/comments. If a person is trolling/being abusive/etc. they receive negative prestige points(given out by members like ratings). Different sections of the forum should only be accessible based on those prestige points...kind of like senior's cafe. Those who have enough prestige points can interact/comment...those who have less prestige(below the level set for that forum section) can only read and will be unable to post anything thus maintaining the quality in high prestige sections.Mods have their own short comings.Who would revamp,i haven't seem webby around for a while ago.
The events started like this: [LIST said:[*]The poster @austerliz a very good poster who has been working as title holder for 10 years was reported.When we checked his reports where we noted low quality posts and those posts were the reason of two Pakistani troll members paksarzameen and areesh.
[*]The events heated up so much because as per Aus action was not taken against these two posters who kept on trolling and insulting him.
[*]According to both parties, both have insulted each other and highly respectable man on earth such as Prophet Muhammed(P.B.U.H) who was mercy of Allah(SWT) upon humanity was thrown insults at.
[*]To circumvent such problem we decided to first hear stories of both sides.
[*]We found both parties were equally responsible in this.One for provocation and the latter one for being provoked.
[*]Also, due to absence of mods.
[*]Hence, it was not just Auz we all are responsible for this - equally.
[*]If Areesh and Pakserzameen hasn't thrown personal insults, then this wouldn't be started.
[*]If mods were there, then these two were banned and things won't heated up.
[*]And finally Aus if he has controlled himself and has intelligently contacted @WebMaster and me directly then this wouldn't happened.
[*]However, we all forget justice and started to build up case against him: Public pressure, peer pressure etc
[*]No one thought for once that how it was started and was true person punished or dragged?
[*]As per rule, Areesh, Paksarzameen and Aus and even abscent mods all should be demoted or banned for not taking care of things easily.
[*]We all are then, criminals infront of Allah.
[*]I swear to Allah, I would have pressurized @WebMaster for a ban.
[*]However, again as a muslim I recalled the event of Prophet Dawood (AS) when two persons brought their case to him and he without listening to other party favored the first man.The case was something like this:
[*]"Oh prophet of Allah(SWT), I have one sheep and he has 99 sheeps.He want to take away my 99 sheeps as well so that his sheeps become 100 sheeps" Prophet David(AS) favored the person without listening to other person who had 99 sheeps saying:"Sometimes, the most dominating person supresses weak person".He was instructed then by Allah where he went wrong and that he would have listened to other person.Hence, he performed sujood and expressed apology.
[*]In the light of all those events, I decided that either (A) We ban all three members and demote abscent mods OR (B)Give another chance to all of us.
[*]I approached @WebMaster due to his immense experience and expertise and without pressurizing him to take clear decision which he did.
[*]Now we all have chance to prove that this will not happened again, Inshallah and the correct way to rectify our mistakes.
[*]If mods were absent/ doing favoritism will learn and not repeat it again.
[*]Think Tanks and members learn to trust and contact management.
[*]I don't know how we will do in such limitation and pressure but I have trust on Allah.
[*]Let us built PDF a better community.
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Punishment is effective but in many cases giving chance softens the heart of people.Let us monitor all three posters once again and this time ourselves and issue straight bans if found anyone doing it so.This is the spirit of Islam and this is the way of Quaid.
@django and @Ace of Spades and others, rest is upto you.
Regards
Did he really abuse the Holy Prophet (pbuh) and the Holy Qur'an??? I thought he just said that Muslims worshipped the Book of Muhammad and the black stone.That guy abused and bashed both holy quran and Prophet PBUH
He also called Prophet SAWW by different disgusting names
@war&peace can explain u as wellDid he really abuse the Holy Prophet (pbuh) and the Holy Qur'an??? I thought he just said that Muslims worshipped the Book of Muhammad and the black stone.
@Slav Defence ... If this guy really did what Tps43 is saying then how could you write long posts in his defence and blame Pakistani' 'trolls" instead (for provoking him)
What do you want me to say? I think you know that I'm pretty vocal and I have conveyed my message to the right quarters. I feel sad and disillusioned.@war&peace can explain u as well
If it truly went down like that then he deserves a ban and a demotion from his TT title. Religious insults should not be tolerated no matter how much a troll tries to instigate. If keeping fair was the issue then ban all three of them but under no circumstances should they allow such insults to go unpunished.@war&peace can explain u as well
Here are his comments,If it truly went down like that then he deserves a ban and a demotion from his TT title. Religious insults should not be tolerated no matter how much a troll tries to instigate. If keeping fair was the issue then ban all three of them but under no circumstances should they allow such insults to go unpunished.
HappyBut why is the poll open for only limited days? Why is it not open indefinitely?
I'm glad u kept the conversation on record. This is disgusting and shameful on the part of mods. Such inaction of mods will only embolden these a**holes.Here are his comments,
By the way, all this discussion, in multiple formats and in very highly quality.
Here are his comments,
By the way, all this discussion, in multiple formats and in very highly quality.
Even Temporary ban and revoking his title is enough @Retired Troll gets banned sometime unfairly and he trolls bcuz of non action against some defecto powerful corners.@Tps43 if this guy does not permanent banned then I really wonder why does @Retired gets banned. In fact, no one should be banned because in my entire stay, I have not seen such a disrespect from any senior member.
And you know I was late comer ... got notified only after @django tagged me and still I was cool and asked Australitz to delete his abusive comments and say sorry so everything will be over but instead he went on to defend his stance. I was angry but still polite with him.I'm glad u kept the conversation on record. This is disgusting and shameful on the part of mods. Such inaction of mods will only embolden these a**holes.