(GCC VS IRAN) GI + AIR FORCE

[AmirPatriot]

Would the GCC air force operate above Yemen if Yemen had S-300 / HQ-9?

How on earth do you expect a rag tag resistance group to operate such a sophisticated system?

 

[Hassan Guy]

5 years, of which there are less than 4 left.

So only then Iran can buy the Su-30?

 

[Faravahar]

What an epic fail of a thread!

One has to take into account competency most of all. Not matter how generous we are in our thinking, we still would come to the conclusion that these PGCC nations are extremely incompetent.

Their airforce is basically the one thing they have. If there was ever a conflict between Iran and them, their airports and strategic sites would basically be blown to pieces in first half hour of the conflict!

Their airplanes, all of which are relatively aged (still newer than Iran's) are easy pray for Iran's integrated air defences unit. People always talk about Iran's ballistic missiles but seem to miss the point that Iran's integrated air defence is as potent as its ballistic missile probably. This air defence complex was made to counter a US strike, you think these PGCC could penetrate it? They could not even undergo their attacks on Houthis without Americans feeding them intelligence, spare parts for planes, bombs etc.

Assuming US does not get involved, Iran could turn even the Persian gulf into a non fly zone for these people with its OTH radars detecting everything over the region etc..
Without US they're just kids with expensive toys.

 

[ssethii]

Why do Iran and GCC has to fight anyways?

 

[scythian500]

How could you be such a fool ?

isis is not land blocked like houthis !

isis supporters refueling them with more monkeys & weapons !

As much as we kill more monkeys coming !

I think we have to target monkey production centers to end this war !

Let's put aside harmful facts that Iran in all Syria, Lebanon and Iraq war against terrorists never sent more than a few IRANIAN national consultants and some moderately skilled volunteers,,,!! Iran is not in war in reality... Iran only helps local nation under invasion by some help... The number of terrorists in Iraq and Syria never ends... The more we kill the more Turkey, Saudi, Qatar and their beloved USA import brand new beheading monsters into Syria and Iraq... These worms won't just run out of ammo... Turks and others buy all sorts of ammo and weaponry for their armies but export them to terrorists...

This whole Iran Vs PGCC fictional war theories are just funny and a bad joke... waste of time... we better bet on Russia Vs USA or China Vs USA... These are more fun and viable theories.... Iran never sees PGCC sultandoms a threat let alone preparing to fight them!! It is them who always trying to be-large themselves by using this kind of literature.. This is them.. No one in Iran even cares about these little sultandoms... we have more important adversaries to take care of...

In a possible full scale war against Iran by any par nation... Iran would have at least 10 million soldiers battle-capable ready to go to war... What about tens of thousands of different ballistic, cruise, anti-ship missiles? Bad for sultandoms... even the shortest range missiles of Iran would reach their entire existence... What a silly decision to concentrate all the oil industry right on the other side of the Persian gulf!!

Iran is a nation by all standards... A nation that existed thousands of years ago and still exists because of a simple fact... Iranians are brave, proud and always ready... Iran needs no friend or enemy to stand tall in a FOREVER long war... Iran has all its needs locally and builds all the necessary weaponry locally... This means we better talk about Milan 2017 shoe models... That would be more fun...

You better never imagine what it would like to be in a full scale war with Iran... I respect our Khaliji brothers and sisters in Persian gulf and wish them wisdom... Yet I find these tiny sultandoms more capable in begging for protection than generation power and protection themselves..

Why do Iran and GCC has to fight anyways?

ExACTLY....!

If you notice, It is always them who think they want and can beat Iran!! Iran according to both official and non-official facts don't even care about them... Iran don't see these Persian gulf sultandoms as threats... Maybe this is what upset them the most...
http://nationalinterest.org/feature/saudi-arabia-cares-more-about-iran-iran-does-about-saudi-18091

Iran has no plans or wishes to invade these states nor has a willing to do so... Yet they insist on triggering one... Iran is officially more interested in opposing USA, Israel and recently Takfiri terrorists...

When I hear such hillarious theories of war and VS games from Persian gulf I always smile and recall a story happened in my childhood...

There was a 6 year old kid who had a big mouth in our block... He wanted to prove to others that he is strong and grown up so he kicked a big guy once from behind.!! You can guess what happened to him next!! No, you guessed wrong!! The big guy asked him where do you live and where are your parents to talk to?... The 6 year old kid never gave up though... still a source of joke and fun for others in neighborhood...

 

[AmirPatriot]

So only then Iran can buy the Su-30?

Technically Iran can buy anything with UNSC approval. But the likelihood of the UNSC approving anything when the US has veto power is a fantasy.

 

[Stryker1982]

actually they don't, they can use cruise missiles to take out planes on the ground and BVR missiles.
but Iran can do the same with BM and cruise missiles of its own, and in much bigger numbers.

I don't think GCC countries have standoff capabilities on thier planes, unless some secret deals have happened behind the scenes.

 

[Azeri440]

I don't think GCC countries have standoff capabilities on thier planes, unless some secret deals have happened behind the scenes.

UAE, Qatar and Saudis have Storm Shadow

 

[scythian500]

UAE, Qatar and Saudis have Storm Shadow

Storm Shadow is an slow cruise missile (0.8 mach) and also needs to be fired by jet fighters... Don't you think it would be easy to take care of slow moving cruise missiles with Iranian air defense systems? These have to be fired on board a plane... if iran take care of all airports and airfields in the first or second phase of the war then storm shadows will stay on the ground or smoked into the air too...

Persian gulf countries are very vulnerable in such a fictional war scenario. Iran will definitely destroy all petrochemical facilities, oil refining, oil dwells, water desalination units, airports, bridges, ports, electricity power-plants and so on... don't you think such a fictional war would never get to the point to use strom shadows or use them in big numbers?

This thread is dumb... The Arabic guy is begging for approval with emphasize on AIRFORCE... while it is explained by all members that the airforce in a war scenario is nothing and the war will be finished before it is started... Iran with its indigenous and imported systems of air defense is not Yemen to wait and watch their jets bombing where ever they like... Iran has +thousands of kms radars that can detect any airplane or cruise missile in first seconds... You know what it means? What do you do if you know a jet is coming from X route in X minutes while they don't know they are watched and tracked!

 

[Azeri440]

Storm Shadow is an slow cruise missile (0.8 mach) and also needs to be fired by jet fighters... Don't you think it would be easy to take care of slow moving cruise missiles with Iranian air defense systems? These have to be fired on board a plane... if iran take care of all airports and airfields in the first or second phase of the war then storm shadows will stay on the ground or smoked into the air too...

Persian gulf countries are very vulnerable in such a fictional war scenario. Iran will definitely destroy all petrochemical facilities, oil refining, oil dwells, water desalination units, airports, bridges, ports, electricity power-plants and so on... don't you think such a fictional war would never get to the point to use strom shadows or use them in big numbers?

This thread is dumb... The Arabic guy is begging for approval with emphasize on AIRFORCE... while it is explained by all members that the airforce in a war scenario is nothing and the war will be finished before it is started... Iran with its indigenous and imported systems of air defense is not Yemen to wait and watch their jets bombing where ever they like... Iran has +thousands of kms radars that can detect any airplane or cruise missile in first seconds... You know what it means? What do you do if you know a jet is coming from X route in X minutes while they don't know they are watched and tracked!

Storm Shadow is stealthy and low flying, those 2 parts counter the fact that it is indeed slow, and will only be detected when it is too late, another factor is Iran's entire airspace is not covered with AD systems, a low flying cruise missile severely limits the operating range of even long range AD systems

you are vulnerable to the same things, a war between Iran and Arabs will just result in mutual economic destruction, both of your main economic parts aka all of your oil and gas industries are just across each other.

 

[raptor22]

Iran has made a fighter jet by the name of Saeghe or Thunder .. Chinese JF-17 is called Thunder too ... so base on your logic these 2 fighter jets are the same ?

Hothis Zelzal missile :



I assure you if Iran wanted to supply Hothis war wouldn't have taken this long ...

 

[AmirPatriot]

Storm Shadow is stealthy and low flying, those 2 parts counter the fact that it is indeed slow, and will only be detected when it is too late, another factor is Iran's entire airspace is not covered with AD systems, a low flying cruise missile severely limits the operating range of even long range AD systems

you are vulnerable to the same things, a war between Iran and Arabs will just result in mutual economic destruction, both of your main economic parts aka all of your oil and gas industries are just across each other.

Short range missile systems can take out such missiles.

 

[Azeri440]

Short range missile systems can take out such missiles.

sure, if you have a battery performing point defence on every potential target, and those systems again face limited response time.

 

[mohsen]

one missile vs one airport!

This is the reality:

 

[scythian500]

Storm Shadow is stealthy and low flying, those 2 parts counter the fact that it is indeed slow, and will only be detected when it is too late, another factor is Iran's entire airspace is not covered with AD systems, a low flying cruise missile severely limits the operating range of even long range AD systems

you are vulnerable to the same things, a war between Iran and Arabs will just result in mutual economic destruction, both of your main economic parts aka all of your oil and gas industries are just across each other.

Radars that is intended to detect cruise missiles among others have vertical downward line of sight. This means no bird, high altitude or skimming, regular or stealthy has no chance escaping this type of radars.

Regarding air space, If you said so 5 or even 3 years ago that would be correct. Today Iranian airspace is fully covered. We have 3700 possible routes over Iranian air space and all of them are secured by multi-layered radar network (equipped with all sort of stealth-detection radars including the early warning OTH radars), electronic, optical, IR and more importantly human eyes are present in each and every possible corner. The air defence has a 360 degree approach and there is little chance for PGCC weapons to cross this barrier. The hard part with regard to stealth cruises is detection while it is solved already.

Btw, any activity is monitored in the region and beyond as Iran has operational capability to monitor any activities (stealth or non-stealth) up to +2500 km circle. This capability is only present in few countries.

There is no doubt that war is a mutual loss to different degrees. No body in Iran or here claim or pretend or wishes to start a war with so called Persian gulf sultandoms... This is them who use these fictional scenarios to feed the low self-esteem citizens of PGCC states. If you go to youtube you see hundreds of these stronk (per Soheil) khalijis making videos saying we will crush Iran in minutes!!

They want to destroy Iran using their airforce and nothing else in minutes and yet Iran does not even see them as a threat!!

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