Fence Pak-Afghan Border

[OrionHunter]

No need for fence , we move in Army into Afghanistan and take over land

> Afghania Province , the new province of Pakistan
> Take the permanent Afgan residents of Pakistan and give them incentive to go back to new province and invest there


Cost 40,000 Troops , 3 Squadrons of Mirage , 2 Squadron of Bell Helicopters , 200 Tanks ,
Permenent Integration, 10,000 Police Force units

"The only solution"

That region needs a regional force , like Pakistani Army to stabalize it , and then we can train the new generation of Army extension


Pakistan

Afgania Province
KPK
Balouchistan
Punjab
Sindh
Azad Kashmire


Pakistan Army will "CLEANUP" that region

You guys can't even clean up your own Northern areas and you want to clean up Afghanistan's??

Man, please talk sense. Don't spew baloney.

And you've got 3 thanks for this crap?

 

[SHAMK9]

Save Waziristan first

Let me make the real future of Pakistan:

Pastunistan (Afghan territory)
Azad Baluchistan
Sindhu Desh
And Punjab under control of India

Only Afghan tribals will run over your 40,000 troops within two days and they will also receive help from yourside's tribal people too

@ topic: The truth is you can't fence it unless this imaginary line really becomes a border and that could only be done by negotiations and brotherhood coz both sides of the border don't accept they belong to any country and have trade, relation, transportation etc.. Don't fool yourselves on some city living people of KP they have long left tribalism and have merged with other urban population of Pakistan and they don't make up large to help you on this, first thing Pakistan would probably get by fencing the durand line is the call of jihad against GoP and it' army by all tribal people on both sides that their tribes are being separated by Punjab dominant government and army to weaken them on both sides.

Not sure if retarded or on period

 

[kushan]

one nuke a day , over five days will put an end to every type of afgan turd , tribal or otherwise

the nukes are meant to neutralize enemies of Pakistan , if you act like the enemy you will given due treatment including the one of the nuclear kind

Y

one nuke a day , over five days will put an end to every type of afgan turd , tribal or otherwise

Interesting to see that you think nukes should be used on tribals, you are declaring them enemies of pakistan. I respect your honesty and truthfulness.
By the way, why pakistan is so helpless despite having nukes. America regularly violates pakistani air space, roasted 22 soldiers of yours at salala, iran threatens you by going into your territory and taking care of miscreants.....Before you nuke Afghanistan and FATA, they will start exploding in punjab.....never trust the pakhtuns in pak army !

 

[SHAMK9]

You guys can't even clean up your own Northern areas and you want to clean up Afghanistan's??

Man, please talk sense. Don't spew baloney.

And you've got 3 thanks for this crap?

And who are you to speak in this matter? Doesn't concern you, move on instead of having cheap orgasms

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

happy Wet dream...super powers can not conquer Afghanistan let alone a third world country like pakistan. Establish your writ on your FATA first then dream about conquering afghanistan.

We don't need to conquer afghans have residency cards and citizenship in Pakistan already and they do normal business in other provinces of Pakistan, and many have families across border etc

The recommended force is maintain things

Cost 40,000 Troops
a) 10,000 Troops in Northern Areas
b) 10,000 Troops in South Areas
e) 10,000 Troops in West Areas
f) 10,000 Troops in East Areas

(Note there might be 1300-1400 rouge Taliban wandering around foot it's not that bad on donkeys or on foot)

• 3 Squadrons oaf Mirage, could be based on the main airport in Kabul etc or other airbases, Pakistan air force can assume control on that airport
  
  

2 Squadron of Bell Helicopters, Air support for ground troops, rescue or support role

200 APC, not needed but nice to have in key areas & Checkposts

100 Tanks

10,000 Police Force units
a) 5,000 officers for Kabul
b) 5,000 would work with Soldiers for protection of schools etc or civilian areas

• Pakistani UAV , would monitor the mountains for intrusions etc

80% of Afghan's already have some sort of residential ties with Pakistan, and that is the truth
and many visit across border and do trade on daily basis

The advantage is social , economic and common sense.

Other benefits include
a) Curb on Narcotics (Hopefully farming crops that feed people would be introduced)
b) Fill in the void with Trained force , and established democracy
c) And easier traveling for for residents of Afghania province to other provinces etc
d) Induct Afghan residents in Pakistan forces to help protect Afghania province in future
e) Future gas pipe line going thru economic benefits of course

Good for both side of border and our military can also openly enter and chase down any TTP or warlords , and demilitarize the area completely as they would not have a place to run can't come into Pakistan has borders are blocked , and can't hide in Afghanistan etc

 

[kushan]

Call them Pashtun, Pakhtoon, Afghan, Punjabi, Hazara, Baloch. or whatever else. they are all Pakistanis.
You need to understand Pakistan is not based on an ethnicity but on an ideology.
In Pakistan ethnicity is secondary to the national ideology.

What is ideology of pakistan? you people say it is islam. Then there is also islam in Afghanistan. It is also called islamic republic like pakistan. Atleast there was sharia in afghanistan for brief period while pakistani state is at war with those who want sharia in the country.

 

[ShahidT]

@kushan a.k.a @Pak-one a.k.a @Monkey d luffy

lay off the charas, it's retarding your brain

 

[ghilzai]

Save Waziristan first

Let me make the real future of Pakistan:

Pastunistan (Afghan territory)
Azad Baluchistan
Sindhu Desh
And Punjab under control of India

Only Afghan tribals will run over your 40,000 troops within two days and they will also receive help from yourside's tribal people too

@ topic: The truth is you can't fence it unless this imaginary line really becomes a border and that could only be done by negotiations and brotherhood coz both sides of the border don't accept they belong to any country and have trade, relation, transportation etc.. Don't fool yourselves on some city living people of KP they have long left tribalism and have merged with other urban population of Pakistan and they don't make up large to help you on this, first thing Pakistan would probably get by fencing the durand line is the call of jihad against GoP and it' army by all tribal people on both sides that their tribes are being separated by Punjab dominant government and army to weaken them on both sides.

Some good charas you had today, have you forgotten the spanking that Pakistani tribals gave to the afghan tribals when they tried their adventure last time?.

Pakistan is for eternity, Afghanistan is a dead horse that will be reincarnated in its pure form of khurasan.

Pakistani Pukhtoons will help you?, Rasha os Rasha and we will see who helps and who kills, don't ever question our loyalty as we are not like you an iranic blooded scum.

what @Sher Malang is saying, is right. Tribals, in mindset and traditions, are very different from settled folk of KPK. They are loyal to pakistan but are not exactly jeevay jeevay type. Economic interests are the main incentives for them to stick with pakistan. Historically they never were in the control of either kabul or delhi. Sikhs couldnt capture a single territory of FATA. When people have such history, they are hard to be controlled. Look at the mess in FATA, pak army tried to prove the writ of state of pakistan in 2004 and it turned into an ugly war.
You might not accept this but pakistanis in general are sick of tribals, even though taliban are mistakes of pakistan army. Pakistanis wont admit it but pashtuns in general and tribals in particular are dangerous people. They are fearless ,armed and restless. They are only people in the region who are prone to revolutions...whether it was communist revolution or now taliban. They are switching one party after another in kpk, they are restless and want change....they are like pressure cooker

You are very wrong, I am a tribal
My dad has influence over thousands of tribals with one flick of his fingers he can have an army if men standing in front of him and each everyone of us is more passionate about pakistan then let's say someone in Lahore.

You got that one very wrong, don't try to spread false information.

You maybe my kinsman but you ain't no my countryman.

Pakistan Zindabad in whose name I kill anything even my own flesh and blood.

What is ideology of pakistan? you people say it is islam. Then there is also islam in Afghanistan. It is also called islamic republic like pakistan. Atleast there was sharia in afghanistan for brief period while pakistani state is at war with those who want sharia in the country.

What is the ideology of Afghanistan?, no ideology at all living in its past, no vision no future, dominated by iranic blooded Pukhtoons everyone else don't count, that sort of ideology?.

The future of Afghanistan is the ghilzais the rest have failed, as ghilzais we look at all as our own.

 

[pakdefender]

Y
Interesting to see that you think nukes should be used on tribals, you are declaring them enemies of pakistan. I respect your honesty and truthfulness.
By the way, why pakistan is so helpless despite having nukes. America regularly violates pakistani air space, roasted 22 soldiers of yours at salala, iran threatens you by going into your territory and taking care of miscreants.....Before you nuke Afghanistan and FATA, they will start exploding in punjab.....never trust the pakhtuns in pak army !

ahahah hindu in disguise , before we nuke afghanistan 5 times we are more likely to nuke india 50 times , tindia has a special place in our hearts

Those who sign up for Pakistan Army are a different breed to people altogether, our army is a volunteer army and they gel together very. We have given the indian enemy and afghan enemy bloody noses in the past and will do so in future also.

 

[Chaudharry]

Its not easy to fence Pak Afghan Border. . .Foreign Agencies fully penetrated in that area, people of that area can't allow this, Musharaf Tried to fence this border, now u see whats going on in those areas. First of All we need a GRAND Operation in Wazirstan & Karachi, after that it will be possible to fence it.

 

[Khan_patriot]

Y
Interesting to see that you think nukes should be used on tribals, you are declaring them enemies of pakistan. I respect your honesty and truthfulness.
By the way, why pakistan is so helpless despite having nukes. America regularly violates pakistani air space, roasted 22 soldiers of yours at salala, iran threatens you by going into your territory and taking care of miscreants.....Before you nuke Afghanistan and FATA, they will start exploding in punjab.....never trust the pakhtuns in pak army !

And never trust a Bharati in disguise, stop you maniacal bigotry, stop trying to act like you know tribal Pukhtunwali....

 

[asad71]

A fence has two sides.In a way a fence also boxes in the fencer.

 

[kushan]

And never trust a Bharati in disguise, stop you maniacal bigotry, stop trying to act like you know tribal Pukhtunwali....

And what you know about pakhtunwali?...you are claiming to be a pakhtun but dreaming about subjugating Afghans and afghanistan through some plans of ISI. What are your credentials of being pakhtun?. Same question from that @nangyale who want to see Afghanistan conquered by pakistan and justify it by giving example of russia who conquered tatar lands and finished them through assimilation.
You pathetic desi pathans, you remind me of the fox who lost her tail and asked other foxes to cut their tails, telling them that you guys would look more beautiful without tail.
@Sher Malang these guys are embarrassment to pakhtun nation, these losers are dreaming of subjugating afghanistan by punjab....If ahmad shah baba and mirwais neku were alive and saw these two traitors, they would have cut the throats of @Khan_patriot and @nangyale for conspiring against their watan.

 

[dawn_news]

What is ideology of pakistan? you people say it is islam. Then there is also islam in Afghanistan. It is also called islamic republic like pakistan. Atleast there was sharia in afghanistan for brief period while pakistani state is at war with those who want sharia in the country.

hahahahhaha pak-one now you have come up as Afghan. next time change your id to afghan-one, i think malang was also your id. Now days you use 2 ids at a time. This also explain your poor history knowledge in other thread.

Anyway time to give you dose of reality. Afghan pashtuns has been left with nothing, they can't decide anything. The future of Afghanistan will be decided by Pakistani pashtuns, 1/3 of ISI is pashtun and army 1/4. Estableshment similar numbers, so Pak pashtuns will decide the future of Afghanistan will backing of evil punjabis. This case been the case since decades, but you can continue to blame just punjabis. It would be better if you started hating Pakistan as a whole.

I hope its for the best because Afghan pashtuns like you have been left to suffer since last 4 decades and now Pakistanis have to take care of them. Why do you think Pakistan supported pashtun Taliban in Afghanistan? So you guys could stand up in your feet again, but a las it failed miserably.

Afghan pashtuns despite being biggest ethnic group has failed, while Pakistani pashtuns being 1/4 of population prospered in Pakistan.

And what you know about pakhtunwali?...you are claiming to be a pakhtun but dreaming about subjugating Afghans and afghanistan through some plans of ISI. What are your credentials of being pakhtun?. Same question from that @nangyale who want to see Afghanistan conquered by pakistan and justify it by giving example of russia who conquered tatar lands and finished them through assimilation.
You pathetic desi pathans, you remind me of the fox who lost her tail and asked other foxes to cut their tails, telling them that you guys would look more beautiful without tail.
@Sher Malang these guys are embarrassment to pakhtun nation, these losers are dreaming of subjugating afghanistan by punjab....If ahmad shah baba and mirwais neku were alive and saw these two traitors, they would have cut the throats of @Khan_patriot and @nangyale for conspiring against their watan.

He is Pakistani pashtun like @nangyale who feel bad about average tribal in east Afghanistan. So want to help them stand on their feet. You have access to internet being refugee in Pakistan, which mean you are not suffering from poverty like your Afghan pashtun brethen.

Despite your propaganda is a fact Pakistani pashtuns have more say in Islamabad then Afghan pashtuns in Kabul. The difference? You guys make biggest ethnic group in Afghanistan. Thats why Pakistani pashtuns feel sorry for your kind.

 

[Khan_patriot]

What are your credentials of being pakhtun?

Sta kwana wagem, kunni,those are my Pukhtoon credentials.....

You pathetic desi pathans, you remind me of the fox who lost her tail and asked other foxes to cut their tails, telling them that you guys would look more beautiful without tail.

You can go off and shove your opinion up your chubby rear, I dont know who the **** you are or who the **** you think you are, spew your baloney somewhere else, stop trying to come in with your bigotry and shit slinging....

these guys are embarrassment to pakhtun nation, these losers are dreaming of subjugating afghanistan by punjab....If ahmad shah baba and mirwais neku were alive and saw these two traitors, they would have cut the throats of @Khan_patriot and @nangyale for conspiring against their watan.

Yeah, thats ironic coming from a guy in Bahrain, what do you know about Akhmad baba, you dont even have respect enough to capitalize their names, they would have cut your head and shoved it up where the sun dont shine because you are here dividing the same Pukhtoon nation they strove for, go off and spread your agenda some place else, I have had enough of it.....