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Myth 1: The allocation for defence is the single largest component in our budget. Not true. The single largest allocation in Budget 2013-14 went to the Public Sector Development Programme (PSDP). The second largest allocation in Budget 2013-14 went to servicing the national debt. The third largest government expenditure, including off the budget allocations, are the losses at public-sector enterprises (PSEs). Yes, the fourth largest government expenditure goes into defence.

Myth 2: The defence budget eats up a large percentage of the total outlay. Not true. In Budget 2013-14, a total of 15.74 percent of the total outlay was allocated for defence. PSDP and debt servicing were 30 percent each. What that means is that more than 84 percent of all government expenditures are non-defence related.

Myth 3: The defence budget has been increasing at an increasing rate. Not true. In 2001-02, we spent 4.6 percent of our GDP on defence. In 2013-14, twelve years later, our defence spending has gone down to 2.7 percent of GDP.

Myth 4: We end up spending a very high percentage of our GDP on defence. Not true. There are at least four dozen countries that spend a higher percentage of their GDP on defence.

They include: India, Egypt, Sri Lanka, the United States, the United Kingdom, South Korea, France, Eritrea, Oman, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Jordan, Liberia, Brunei, Syria, Kuwait, Yemen, Angola, Singapore, Greece, Iran, Bahrain, Djibouti, Morocco, Chile, Lebanon, Russia, Colombia, Zimbabwe, Turkey, Georgia, Guinea-Bissau, Ethiopia, Namibia, Guinea, Turkmenistan, Kyrgyzstan, Algeria, Serbia and Montenegro, Armenia, Botswana, Ukraine, Uganda, Ecuador, Bulgaria, Lesotho and Sudan.

Myth 5: The Pakistan Army consumes the bulk of the defence budget. Not true. In the 1970s, the Pakistan Army’s share in the defence budget had shot up to 80 percent. In 2012-13, the Pakistan Army’s share in the defence budget stood at 48 percent.

Now some facts:

Fact 1: The Pakistan Army’s budget as a percentage of our national budget now hovers around eight percent.

Fact 2: Losses incurred at public-sector enterprises can pay for 100 percent of our defence budget.

Fact 3: Pakistan’s armed forces are the sixth largest but our expenses per soldier are the lowest. America spends nearly $400,000 per soldier, India $25,000 and Pakistan $10,000.

Fact 4: Of all the armies in the world, Pak Army has received the highest number of UN medals. Of all the armies in the world, Pak Army is the largest contributor of troops to the UN peacekeeping missions.

Mark Twain once remarked, “Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please.”

The writer is a columnist based in Islamabad. Email: farrukh15@hotmail.com Twitter: @saleemfarrukh

Defence budget - Dr Farrukh Saleem
 
I wish this thread could be stickied so people on here would think twice about making wish-lists with 250+ F-22's, F-18's for the navy along with aircraft carriers.
 
Myth 4: We end up spending a very high percentage of our GDP on defence. Not true. There are at least four dozen countries that spend a higher percentage of their GDP on defence.
They include: India,...
As I pointed out in the other thread about the same news, this is simply not true. India has consistently spent a lower percentage of GDP on defence than Pak for a long time now, without even counting the unspent money that gets returned to the finance ministry each year:

Military expenditure (% of GDP) | Data | Table

And this trend will continue, because India's GDP is set to increase much faster than its defence expennditure.
 
Now some facts:

Facts. Yes, like these?

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defence expense stand second in this picture

That is correct. And that is just the direct expense. Military pensions, classified programs and covert operations are on top of that.

After debt servicing and the military, very little money is left for everything else.
 
That is correct. And that is just the direct expense. Military pensions, classified programs and covert operations are on top of that.

After debt servicing and the military, very little money is left for everything else.

so what choices do we have....? one choice is people pay their taxes....2nd choice is sell-off the loss making public sector.....3rd choice is cut the fat in the defence budget....4th choice is use the taxes to trigger the economy.....dont blame everything on the defence budget.....
 
so what choices do we have....? one choice is people pay their taxes....2nd choice is sell-off the loss making public sector.....3rd choice is cut the fat in the defence budget....4th choice is use the taxes to trigger the economy.....dont blame everything on the defence budget.....

I agree that other choices are extremely hard and of course there must a defense budget for the nation to survive.

It is just that trying to prove that defense expenditure is not the largest expense after debt servicing is a failing game. Dr. Saleem's lies in the OP can be easily caught by the facts. He tries to do the same shenanigans, like so many others, and these require a proper and truthful response.
 
That is correct. And that is just the direct expense. Military pensions, classified programs and covert operations are on top of that.

After debt servicing and the military, very little money is left for everything else.
Armed forces pension excluded from defence budget ?
 
Yes by Musharaf,with some other changes aswell so that the overall Defence budget appear smaller
Defence Budget is small compare to other nation but not small compare to Pakistan's economy.
 
Defence Budget is small compare to other nation but not small compare to Pakistan's economy.

Yes but now the overall Defence budget as a %age of GDP has decreased alot in the past decade.The %age of GDP spending now is less than 3%.Which i believe is quite normal
 
Yes but now the overall Defence budget as a %age of GDP has decreased alot in the past decade.The %age of GDP spending now is less than 3%.Which i believe is quite normal

This is simple magic of statics. They exclude Pension & welfare fund from defence budget & didn't report profit from Militry Inc. & show their Budget is slow.
Simply Defence budget is over $10 billion.
 
This is simple magic of statics. They exclude Pension & welfare fund from defence budget & didn't report profit from Militry Inc. & show their Budget is slow.
Simply Defence budget is over $10 billion.

Could not find the link but some years back under PPP,The actual Budget was close to 500Billion PKR but the over spending had stretched it to close to 600Billion PKR.

Below is again a example but the news was later deleted from all media agencies in Pakistan

So yes it is like 1.5-2Billion dollars more than the actuall Budget.I am not wrong,This year budget is around 7.5Billion dollars

Pak may spend over Rs 910 bn on defence in 2012-13
 
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