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Should Pakistan upgrade its Mirages to South African Cheetah standard if not Beyond?

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    Votes: 181 59.0%
  • No

    Votes: 126 41.0%

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NOT FROM J-11 BUT DEVELOPED FROM Su-30MKK/MKK2 AND WE CAN'T GET IT BECUASE J-16'S DESIGN IS RUSSIAN INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY

it’s not like China bought the technology from Russia. It’s copied from J-11/SU-30
 
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it’s not like China bought the technology from Russia. It’s copied from J-11/SU-30
J-11 is developed from Su-27 that china have, J-16 developed from Su-30 MKK/MKK2 not from J-11 and the main point is that WE CAN'T GET J-16 BECAUSE OF THE DESIGN IS RUSSIAN, AND RUSSIAN WONT ALLOW CHINA TO SELL THEIR J-16D (RUSSIAN BASED DESIGN) TO THIRD COUNTRY
 
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J-16 developed from Su-30 MKK/MKK2
J-16 developed from J-11BS, and J-11BS from Su-27UBK.

Su-27UBK
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J-16
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Anyone taking about JH-7 need to realize that China has stopped It’s production and will eventually replace It with J-16D.
J-16D is a modified version of J-11 with the bigger nose to house more hardware and should be considered by PAF/PN.
They also have J11D , which i think thay placed in ladakh too

J-11 is developed from Su-27 that china have, J-16 developed from Su-30 MKK/MKK2 not from J-11 and the main point is that WE CAN'T GET J-16 BECAUSE OF THE DESIGN IS RUSSIAN, AND RUSSIAN WONT ALLOW CHINA TO SELL THEIR J-16D (RUSSIAN BASED DESIGN) TO THIRD COUNTRY
True , till china dont have option to sale this flankers series to any country
In past chana have this option for, F5, F6, F7 others which were chines copies of mig 17, 19 and mig 21 that Pakistan was able to have them
 
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Ok, will reconfirm it, thanks for sharing
Bro we had few initial grainy pics of J-11D prototype but after Su-35 , the J-11D project may be shelved or delayed there no information of J-11D project in Chinese defense sites
 
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Bro we had few initial grainy pics of J-11D prototype but after Su-35 , the J-11D project may be shelved or delayed there no information of J-11D project in Chinese defense sites
There appears to be no need with the PLAAF entering the 5th generation domain with J20. Once they mature the design and most probably the engine they will ramp up production to the routine Chinese numbers of 50 to 60/year.
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There appears to be no need with the PLAAF entering the 5th generation domain with J20. Once they mature the design and most probably the engine they will ramp up production to the routine Chinese numbers of 50 to 60/year.
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What if Chinese further modify the frame?
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any one know about the jh-7r rumor i have waited for like 5hrs NOTHING
It is just a rumour. I dont think there is any sense in this one. We are buying older air frames from all over the world and then suddenly want to buy 100 air frames of an obsolete Chinese plane for the same role having rejected it for decades. It seems unlikely.
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What if Chinese further modify the frame?
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I think it seems unlikely that the Chinese will try and convert the series into a lo obs platform specially when they already have 2 platforms that they are working on. So this one might not be true. There may also be issues with intellectual rights and other problems with the Russians which are best off avoided at this moment.
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