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Should Pakistan upgrade its Mirages to South African Cheetah standard if not Beyond?

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One IIIEP is still in service with the 15 squadron, although not in it's original configuration and IIIRP's (not sure which batch) are still active.

Yep only 67-116 is left of the original batch of 18 Mirage IIIEPs and is the oldest Mirage in PAF's inventory. It flies with the Cobras.

67-101 was actually flying not that far back and was in fact the pattern aircraft for the third round of overhauls. It crashed in January 2017.

None of the original three RPs have survived. Of the dual-seat all three seem to by flying, but hard to be certain.

While on the topic, does anyone have pictures of any of the following French Mirage 5Fs we got? 96-702, 96-710, 96-713, 96-731, 96-744, 96-751 and 96-752? One of these crashed in France prior to delivery, but not sure which one.
 
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F-16 is not only PAF's strength but its weakness as well.

While Mirages proved their worth in 1971, F-16s proved their worth during Afghan conflict in 1980s by shooting down eight intruding aircraft. (4 Su-22s, 2 Mig-23s, 1 Su-25 and 1 An-26)

PAF will not retire F-16s from its fleet till 2050s or may be beyond. Older F-16A/Bs after service life mode can fly for 12000 hours.

US has started discontinuing the production of F-16. Production of F-16 Block 70 for Behrain appears to be last order.

LM is looking for a customer to buy its F-16 production line. India and South Korea are the potential customers.

US has planned to phase out its F-16 fleet by 2040s.

PAF will seek purchasing opportunity specially older F-16s to strengthen its fleet but of-course without usual attached strings.







It appears that PAF is not interested in inducting a new aircraft system because its induction phase will cost huge amount of money which PAF do not want to spend on such venture.

At present PAF is focusing on two major ventures:

1. Up-gradation of JF-17 Block IIIs with state of art avionics suit and weapons.

2. Project Azm.


The time has changed a lot for Pakistan.

Let's see how PAF will going to take advantage.
 
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What do you mean by not in it's original configuration?
Older Cyrano II radar and nose cone have been replaced with Australian recce nose cone equipped with I think the Fairchild KA-56 Low Altitude Panoramic Camera.

like the one here

Yes just talking about the first picture,also if you check the Isac 2019 video you can find a Mirage V with nose cone of Mirage III performing take off roll.

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That'll be a IIIDP with a standard radar-less nose , not a Mirage 5 nose.
 
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Older Cyrano II radar and nose cone have been replaced with Australian recce nose cone equipped with I think the Fairchild KA-56 Low Altitude Panoramic Camera.


like the one here
We have better radar then old Cyrano 2 on our upgraded ROSE Mirages
 
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Hi any info about the number of Mirages with IFR probe
Thank you


I have asked this question many time but never got anywhere Grifo 5 was developed for mirage 5 with different antenna size to fit in mirage 5 but paf never went for it and only took Grifo 3 for sqn plus aircraft cover 7 and ccs sqn why ?
May be f-7 and f-16 were enough and no need for true multi role mirage fleet with a2a on mirage 5 ?
 
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