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Can Pakistan Be Secular?

A Pakistan that, like India, embraces pluralist tolerance is worth thinking about


Washington: To anyone who knew him in this country, Faisal Shahzad seemed like a likeable but unremarkable young man, a naturalised American citizen, living a middle class life in Connecticut with his wife and two children. Then came Saturday, May 1, 2010, when he allegedly tried to blow up a van loaded with explosives in New York’s crowded Times Square. He failed and was later arrested. His story has set off a flurry of questions here: Why did he do it? What are the links between Islam and jihad? And, why does Pakistan figure so ominously in a majority of terror-related incidents around the world?
The British authorities said sometime ago that 70 per cent of terror-related events in their country had a link with Pakistan. Indians can shake their heads in empathy; so can the Americans after a series of attempted cases of terrorism involving US citizens becoming radicalised after hooking up with jihadi outfits in Pakistan. What is it with Pakistan that jihadis find such a hospitable climate for their activities?
Writing in The Washington Post last Monday, Fareed Zakaria asked why Pakistan remained a terrorist hothouse at a time when jihadists were losing support elsewhere in the Muslim world. “The answer is simple,” he said. “From its founding, the Pakistani government has supported and encouraged jihadi groups, creating an atmosphere that has allowed them to flourish.” Unsurprisingly, it’s a conclusion with which many thoughtful Pakistanis agree. That much was evident last Monday at a seminar in this town.
Inaugurating the conference on ‘Competing Religious Narratives in Pakistan: Can Islam Be an Agency for Peace’, Husain Haqqani, Pakistan’s erudite ambassador to the US, offered a strikingly candid set of observations. He began by quoting from an April 1957 essay by Hasan Suhrawardy, then the prime minister, in which the veteran politician wondered, apparently in exasperation with Islamist ideologues, whether the insertion in the constitution of the adjective “Islamic” to describe the state
was meant in any way to be a sign of courage or moral excellence. Today, said Haqqani, the ‘vision’ thing is hardly discussed. Popular discourse in Pakistan is over trivialities and dominated by conspiracy theories.
Is Pakistan an ideological state? Or is it a nation state, asked the ambassador, making it clear that he stood with those who wanted it to be a nation, in which secular politics formed the chief channel of discourse, and not a theocratic entity. “Politics is the grand avenue of service to humanity,” he declared. Religious parties could have a legitimate role in politics but they must not have a veto over the country’s direction by threatening those who would support pluralism and democracy.
Haqqani’s act was followed by similarly insightful and forthright presentations by, among others, two Pakistani intellectuals. Farzana Shaikh, who is with Chatham House in London, pleaded for the introduction of a minimal form of secularism in a rapidly declining Pakistan which she said was struggling to survive in “desperate times”. The state’s identity was not clear from its very start. Given the circumstances in which the demand for a separate nation called Pakistan arose, even its early secularists had to rely on Islamic terminology to state their case. “An ambiguous and ample role was awarded to Islam,” she pointed out. Later, Zulfikar Ali Bhutto flirted with a form of “folk Islam” while General Zia-ul Haq openly implemented an “ulemainspired, shariatised Islam”. The military, in power for most of that country’s life, relies today on a “Muslim communal discourse”.
Ayesha Siddiqa, who wrote a fine account in her book Military Inc of the spread of the Pakistani military’s financial tentacles, warned that jihadist influence was far more widespread than just in the FATA region. Contrary to the belief of many who thought some jihadi groups worked independently from others, she asserted that all jihadists were interconnected. She too pleaded for an attempt by the country’s elite to separate Islam from politics of the state. For that to happen the educated would have to “create a new narrative” on secular politics and give up attempts to argue that this or that variety of Islam, such as Sufism, could bring moderation to the land.
It is probably too late in the day to introduce a strict form of secularism in Pakistan. The nation was founded as a separate land for Muslims of the subcontinent. That did not happen; most Muslims in South Asia live outside Pakistan, which in fact stopped further Muslim migration soon after its creation. It has become a military state, with a patina of democratic representation without real power. And it is becoming a land for ideological Islamists instead of a nation for Muslims. Can secularism work there?
Secularism exists in various forms. The French have a hard variety, in which the state tries to preserve a republican nonreligious uniformity; the Americans believe in keeping equidistance from all religions while maintaining a wall between religion and the state. India offers a third variety, in which the secular state tries to treat all religions equally; the state, as well as the judiciary, often intervenes in religious affairs while religious considerations can influence public policy. But it maintains a pluralist tolerance and allows all religions free play.
Can Pakistan become a bit like India? Probably not, but it may be worth a thought.

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HI
The topic & the content are completely opposite, the title is about Pakistan becoming a secular state or not while the the content of this article reflects the desperate attempts of excuses to malign Pakistan as an ulterior motive to denounce the creation of Pakistan since 1947. :devil:
 
Surprisingly, even though it was founded on the basis of one religion, I think it was desired to be a secular country by Jinnah. But I guess mid-way across their post-independence history they altered course and adopted a strictly Islamic identity.
 
Some more explanation for Indians - who can read Urdu

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Surprisingly, even though it was founded on the basis of one religion, I think it was desired to be a secular country by Jinnah. But I guess mid-way across their post-independence history they altered course and adopted a strictly Islamic identity.


Pakistan is ISLAMIC Country only - never a secular

But in Islamic Country a non Muslim have full rights to practice and preach his/her religion with no fear or restriction of any kind.
 
HI
The topic & the content are completely opposite, the title is about Pakistan becoming a secular state or not while the the content of this article reflects the desperate attempts of excuses to malign Pakistan as an ulterior motive to denounce the creation of Pakistan since 1947. :devil:

I disagree with the "Desperate Attempts" parts. Zakaria does not question the creation of Pakistan but rather attacks the state policy it adopted after its birth. You are partially correct that. Mrs.Shaikh is off mark when she say's that state's identity was not clear from start. Indeed, it was made very clear by Mr.Jinnah. She is however correct on Mr.Huq and Mr.Bhutto, bad influence.

None the less, the article is in no way questioning creation of Pakistan.
 
Pakistan is ISLAMIC Country only - never a secular

But in Islamic Country a non Muslim have full rights to practice and preach his/her religion with no fear or restriction of any kind.

I am confused. Your description sounds that of a secular country. So what makes an Islamic country Islamic? If we are not placing any restriction on any faith and there are no preferences or bias in law then isn't that what a secular country is?
 
^^^That was unnecessary and inflammatory Hillman. Nobody was trying to throw mud at Pakistan and you didn't need to bring India into it just because some Indians are having a discussion with you.
 
I am confused. Your description sounds that of a secular country. So what makes an Islamic country Islamic? If we are not placing any restriction on any faith and there are no preferences or bias in law then isn't that what a secular country is?


This is a reality and true teachings of Islam.

Various system of governing and running a Country are based on Islamic Teachings and beliefs.

In Islamic country we have Islamic Laws for Muslims & Criminal Cases for all.

Non- Muslims can have their own civil law as per their belief.

No-Muslim have to abide by Laws of Land, Rules and Regulations and are to pay Taxes as well.
 
I disagree with the "Desperate Attempts" parts. Zakaria does not question the creation of Pakistan but rather attacks the state policy it adopted after its birth. You are partially correct that. Mrs.Shaikh is off mark when she say's that state's identity was not clear from start. Indeed, it was made very clear by Mr.Jinnah. She is however correct on Mr.Huq and Mr.Bhutto, bad influence.

None the less, the article is in no way questioning creation of Pakistan.
Hi
actually these are desperate attempts, Writer has only focused on negative aspects we don't have utopian society in existence anywhere, she has focused on Bhutto & Zia who didn't even live post 1989, What about Musharaff & his enlightened moderation concept? Pakistan isn't the only country with Religious parties in the world & the funny thing is these so called religious parties have only control over one province n they haven't been in power for 4 decades.Pakistan should be secular like India only speaks of writers arbitrary views
 
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