BREAKING: PAF base Mianwali under attack, suicide bombers and heavy weapons in use

[imadul]

Given whatever has happened, my only question: why the PAF jets aren't pounding the TTP targets deep inside Afganistan? Are they also destroyed? At the least 200 1K lb need to be dropped, along with relentless artillery barrages destroying every Afgan military installation within 40km of the border.....

Afghans will leech on them.
Anyway, army is busy in a showdown with the largest political party.

 

[Foxtrot-Bravo]

A failure of epic proportion and still our military Junta is busy installing a chawal bagora, convicted criminal to power instead of doing their job and the boot lickers accuse us for calling this third class COAS and his corrupt institution out.
Gareeb ka bachon ko marwa ker un per Shaheed ka label chipka ker apni dukaan chumka raha hain gasti ka bacha.

Only if we learnt from history.

 

[ProudThamizhan]

It is not a matter of views; it is a matter of honest analysis.

The General is tasked with one and only one task; he makes and own the strategy.
He is not supposed to pick up the rifle, he is not supposed to go guerilla.
He is supposed to use his brain, and own the bloody strategy; secondly he has to ensure the middle management
can translate that strategy effectively into tactical level wins.

If the loop of looking at lessons learned, and changing as per the lessons is not implemented, the generals need to be fired
and the next batch needs to be trained accordingly.

even a reasonable war strategy, whether offense or defense, can not succeed when the goals set are wrong and unrealistic.
and no strategy is in its own vacuum.
Pak generals never had the wisdom to account for potential blowback
one screw up led to another to another ...

 

[CriticalThought]

No, I was not arguing the 35 aircrafts destroyed or the whole base being captured, obviously that is a mis-statement and they are very literate about doing propaganda as well so they use exxagerated terms like these to assert their influence but what I wanted to say was our official statement is a misreporting of facts as well. They have done significant damage, even 1 aircraft would have been a significant damage but we can see at least 5-6 burning in that video. Plus we said no casualties which I think we all know by now is a lie. If they can lie about one thing, they can lie about the other thing for sure. Not going into why lying was necessary or strategy wise (that is debateable).

You can not see any aircraft burning in the 2nd video because it is 3-4 hrs after destroying the aircraft, by that time it was daylight already and they were hiding in a building. I am trying to post it here but its not going through.

Discount the misreporting by the enemy, criticise mistakes by own army. Whose side are you on, really? You aren’t being patriotic. At best you are throwing a tantrum and at worst you are part of the libturd vigilantes with a mandate to disparage the army. There will be a time for criticism. If in the coming weeks and months there is no retaliation, Insha Allah my voice will be the loudest. But what you are doing is borderline treason.

 

[TNT]

People of the area saying there was massive damage while ice pyar saying attack was foiled lolz. We all know who are expert liars.

 

[Foxtrot-Bravo]

Discount the misreporting by the enemy, criticise mistakes by own army. Whose side are you on, really? You aren’t being patriotic. At best you are throwing a tantrum and at worst you are part of the libturd vigilantes with a mandate to disparage the army. There will be a time for criticism. If in the coming weeks and months there is no retaliation, Insha Allah my voice will be the loudest. But what you are doing is borderline treason.

It is because of the shit thinking of people like you in the higher ups that we have to see loss of precious lives on a daily basis.
A retaliation means nothing if you don't address the issues that cause these security mishaps every now and then. The moment a militant intrudes in your facility, his objective is achieved and yours is failed. They don't come to go back, they come to destroy whatever they can and then die. Your boasting for killing them is disregarded because they came prepared to get killed anyways. Any sane mind would understand that but not the faujeets. You would not understand because you have not seen soldiers die in your hands because of the mishaps/non seriousness of someone else.

 

[Bilal.]

It is because of the shit thinking of people like you in the higher ups that we have to see loss of precious lives on a daily basis.
A retaliation means nothing if you don't address the issues that cause these security mishaps every now and then. The moment a militant intrudes in your facility, his objective is achieved and yours is failed. They don't come to go back, they come to destroy whatever they can and then die. Your boasting for killing them is disregarded because they came prepared to get killed anyways. Any sane mind would understand that but not the faujeets. You would not understand because you have not seen soldiers die in your hands because of the mishaps/non seriousness of someone else.

Not everyone needs to be argued with. Specially after the intellect level is clear.

 

[Foxtrot-Bravo]

So then 8 Shaheed?

As far as I could confirm. Could be more (I pray not).

 

[Faizi Shooter]

Please post the 2nd video everybody's talking about.

 

[RescueRanger]

Will the airchief demand a red carpet before landing and laying his pressure *** here like he did in the graveyard? Good question no?

Not going to post the video here but there is a longer video of these rats. I don’t know if it’s been mentioned but the Afghan ACUs, and the white markings on the stocks of the weapons, all point towards being ex-ANA issue equipment and uniform.

The risk assessment carried out after storming of the gates during the PTI protests mentioned the lack of watch and ward system near to the hospital, and boundary the wall which was damaged was rebuilt less than a few months ago.

Both the RBC boundary wall and Nur Khan Airbase have electrical fencing alon with proximity sensors post Kamra.

The perimeter wall of Nur Khan Airbase was rebuilt along Rawal Road after 2017

Along with the perimeter and boundary wall on Jehlum Road

The CCTV cameras upgraded in 2021. In fact the cameras both at Shaheen Complex and Nur Khan are the best in the market.

Rapiscan were installed and operated by Provost

Most vital installations in Pakistan now adopt a layered defence principle.

This is especially evident if you visit Kamra, Nur Khan or FWO HQ.

Most sensitive buildings in Pakistan now have proximity alarm electronic fences:

The problem is that physical security stems from Risk assessment, risk assessment is only as good as your threat assessment, all threat assessments are based on intelligence.

Good intel is the lifeblood of security operations, it requires information to be processed, graded and vetted.

Our intelligence picture internally is woefully inadequate, but this is a very difficult job so being too critical is unfair.

Because presently Pakistan is the target of advanced persistent threat actors who are very good at what they do.

So what is the answer? We need to switch our game both in terms of our external security posture but also our internal security posture.

 

[imadul]

I have made list of attacks on paf,pn installations. Lost count and it was horrific.

IMO all started 10 August 1999, with Pn Breguet Atlantic shotdown by iaf mig 21 bison during kargil. Paf sat looking at that time.
Paf restored some lost respect for? 27 Feb 2019 shooting down 2+1 iaf during PMIK.

Since then Pakistan in abyss, with bajwa doctrine ruling supreme.
PTI has to be taught a lesson like AL.

SIPRI or even some human rights ngo might have a list of number of terror attacks in Pakistan in last 4 years...they are wayyyyyy too many.

Tells standard of military.
Some semi professionals in this forum still trust them.

 

[Danish saleem]

creating Chaos is agenda of Enemies during Elections with in country.

 

[RescueRanger]

SIPRI or even some human rights ngo might have a list of number of terror attacks in Pakistan in last 4 years...they are wayyyyyy too many.

According to data from the Pakistan Institute of Peace Studies (PIPS), more than 300 attacks have been carried in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa this year.

 

[arjunk]

Kabul must burn!

 

[Danish saleem]

According to data from the Pakistan Institute of Peace Studies (PIPS), more than 300 attacks have been carried in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa this year.

but people still sympathies with those who carrying out these attacks, instead of Martyrs of Armed Forces.