'Black Flag of Jihad will Fly over London': Alarm over UK-born Iraq Fighters' Threat

[GreenFalcon]

Its sad how some so-called muslims call Hadiths Obscure just to blend in with the crowd

 

[Multani]

I have a religious question as i am curious to know whats happening in minds of these trouble makers
growing as a muslim child have you people had fantasy for war ? It looks like these youths badly wants a stage to express the feeling of a warrior which they entertained as a child .. Terrorist organisations are providing stage to these youths

its like RSS/ VHP / SHIV SENA/ BAJRANG DAL / Arya samaj etc. grow up with dreams about one day when they get a free hand in killing as many Muslims as possible in india

 

[thesolar65]

This is simply a conflict of Islamic ideology with other faiths and extension of what is happening world over. UK have to be very careful.

"Clash of Civilization"......????

 

[Pandora]

@GreenFalcon This is the reason Israel build many barrier to isolate itself from other ME countires.
As for the topic, i dont see these UK rebels can create much havoc because of very strong security forces control over its citizen. Many will be arrested even before entering UK.

Their threat is from within. Birmingham houses most of the Wahhabi/Salafist Nut jobs. At the end of the day it only needs one nut job to ruin the image of entire muslim community. If another such incident happens the life of every single Muslim will become hell in entire europe.

 

[Chak Bamu]

Agreed. there is indeed no success without unity and organization. these new groups are indeed reactionaries but if you know where to look then you'll see that there are others besides mercenaries and reactionaries.

I would appreciate if you could point me in the direction to look. I am not at all sure anything positive would come out of present upheaval.

Its sad how some so-called muslims call Hadiths Obscure just to blend in with the crowd

Who called Hadith obscure?

 

[Jaanbaz]

That is why people like Anjem Choudhary will never ever be convicted of anything and will remain useful tools for these elites.

That is very true. After every few months Anjem Choudhry appears on British media like Sky News, BBC and ITV to represent more then a million Muslims in UK. They present Anjem as a scholar in Islam but everyone know Anjem is nothing but a drunk fool with a beard.

 

[GreenFalcon]

I would appreciate if you could point me in the direction to look. I am not at all sure anything positive would come out of present upheaval.


Who called Hadith obscure?

jaanbaz

 

[Zarvan]

so as per ur great mind Muslims are killing other muslims because USA and Europe are supporting Israel. Excellent sir !

The puppets of USA are falling down that is why it seems war between muslims is taking place because those puppets were mostly installed or supported by west

 

[Jaanbaz]

The puppets of USA are falling down that is why it seems war between muslims is taking place because those puppets were mostly installed or supported by west

The only ones who are falling are Muslim nations. For your own sake use you logic. Groups like Al-Qaida, Taliban and ISIS have served as a great tool for USA to divide and conquer and advance its interests in Middle East and South Asia.

 

[GreenFalcon]

The only ones who are falling are Muslim nations. For your own sake use you logic. Groups like Al-Qaida, Taliban and ISIS have served as a great tool for USA to divide and conquer and advance its interests in Middle East and South Asia.

Terrorists are certainly a tool for the West against us, but all this started because their random invasions of Muslim countries to destroy them, this is just a backlash. Nobody wants to leave their families and happy lives to go fight, but if the fight reaches your doorsteps, then you have no choice

 

[ephone]

If those islamists do not back down, the conflicts will reach a tipping point that a crusade against them will be widespread not only in western countries but in the whole world.

If that becomes reality, there will be no voice for even moderate muslims who actually do not deserve to be the victims.

Mark my words.

Terror alerts, 9/11-style bombings and murders of British citizens will soon come to London’s streets, according to chilling threats from UK citizens fighting alongside Islam’s most violent terrorist group operating in Syria and Iraq.

The threat comes from British nationals fighting for the Sunni militant group calling themselves the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL/ISIS) in Syria. According to the Sunday Times, they promise that after they’re done there, Britain is next. The message comes from three such fighters, all youngsters in their teens and twenties.

According to the Times, these aren’t regular disenchanted youths at all: one is a 20-year-old hacker from Birmingham, who once stole Tony Blair’s details and posted them online, later serving time for an unrelated violence charge.

The “black flag of jihad” will fly over Downing Street, Junaid Hussain warned on June 4, spelling out the horrors to come. He’s been fighting in Syria for over a year now.

Another, 19-year-old Muhammad Hassan, from Portsmouth, was a student at a prestigious school. He warned on Twitter that if the US doesn’t cease threats over drone strikes on ISIS positions, 9/11-style attacks on America would follow.

The third, also from Portsmouth, promised a “killing spree” of British citizens if he were ever to return to Britain.

“Imagine if someone were to detonate a bomb at voting stations or ambushed the vans that carry the casted [sic] votes. It would mess the whole system up,” came another tweet from Junaid Hussain, before he re-tweeted a warning from a like-minded countryman for British people to “watch out,”because “we’ll come back to the UK and wreak havoc.”

Among his other offenses, Hussain has also been seen posting bomb-making advice on the internet, as well as tips on how to smuggle explosive devices through airport security.

Getting to Syria from Britain isn’t as difficult as some would think: the youths simply travel to Turkey, then crossed the border. One of them was caught by CCTV cameras at the time, traveling on a holiday flight from London Gatwick airport to Turkey’s Antalya. Hassan’s group (not including the aforementioned tweeters) had three other people, all in their mid-twenties. After reaching Turkey, they headed over to Syria by car.

A fighter from Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant in the city of Raqqa (Reuters)



This is nowhere near the first time the public has seen British nationals fighting alongside Middle-Eastern extremists. There have been numerous threats, government monitoring of scores of returnees and reports that British Sunni jihadists use Syria as a training ground before taking the battle to home soil.

What’s more striking is how news of their particular cruelty is widespread in Syria itself: Britons comprise an overwhelming majority of foreigners inside ISIS, an organization who are labeled ‘terrorists’ for their bloody campaign of ruthless executions and body mutilations even by other elements of the Syrian opposition.

One Free Syrian Army General spoke in horror of what some 400 British extremists fighting there were capable of doing. He pointed out that ISIS’s already dark record did not originate from actions by local fighters alone.

A picture taken on March 1, 2014 shows the wreckage of a Syrian army helicopter after al-Qaeda-linked group Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL)'s fighters allegedly destroyed it. (AFP Photo / Mohammed Al-Khatieb)



Further illustrating the scale of foreign involvement in ISIS operations, Mike Rogers, the US chairman of the Intelligence Committee, speaking to Fox News alleged that there are “thousands” of American and European volunteers and mercenaries fighting for ISIS, which “has the capability to tap people with Western passports to send them back to Europe and the United States for terrorist activity.”

“This is as dangerous as it gets,” said the Republican politician, who urged Barack Obama to use his influence with Sunni Arab states, such as Saudi Arabia and Egypt, to rein in ISIS – which is likely partly funded by powerful sympathizers within those countries.

The current threats take place amid a fearsome escalation of violence in Iraq, which has beenspiraling out of control the closer ISIS got to Baghdad. Army desertions abound as militants storm through the country, capturing hundreds of millions of dollars in American weapons and equipment and parading them in videos.

The rebels are currently storming through the major cities of Mosul and Tikrit, continuing to post videos of beheadings on their way to the capital.

Britain has been taking steps to curb the spread of extremism on its soil. Over the weekend, Twitter blocked all ISIS-related accounts and the accounts of its supporters at home in the UK. This is a sensible move, given most of the communication between worldwide supporters of the jihadist cause is done on social networks, where the above British-born terrorists all use new Islamic names.

An image made available by the jihadist Twitter account Al-Baraka news on June 9, 2014 allegedly shows Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) militants taking position at a Iraqi border post on the Syrian-Iraqi border between the Iraqi Nineveh province and the Syrian town of Al-Hasakah. (AFP Photo)



Prime Minister David Cameron is also ringing alarm bells, asserting that Britain has become too tolerant for its own good, bringing about a rise in extremism. The PM has called on several occasions for the protection and promotion of “British values” as a counterweight to the perceived malignant Islamization of Britain. He now believes the government has been too soft in a number of ways, according to a recent public address.

“It isn’t enough simply to respect these values in schools. They’re not options, they’re the core of what it is to live in Britain,” Cameron told the public.

"In recent years we have been in danger of sending out a worrying message: that if you don't want to believe in democracy, that's fine; that if equality isn't your bag, don't worry about it; that if you're completely intolerant of others, we will still tolerate you,” the PM asserted.

“That's not just led to division; it has also allowed extremism – of both the violent and non-violent kind - to flourish. We need to be far more muscular in promoting British values and the institutions that uphold them,” he said, shortly after a major scare involving an alleged Trojan Horse plot to Islamicize certain British schools, which prompted an investigation and much bickering within the government.
‘Black flag of jihad will fly over London’: Alarm over UK-born Iraq fighters' threat — RT News
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[Jaanbaz]

If those islamists do not back down, the conflicts will reach a tipping point that a crusade against them will be widespread not only in western countries but in the whole world.
If that becomes reality, there will be no voice for even moderate muslims who actually do not deserve to be the victims.
Mark my words.

Its not that simple my friend. You see groups like ISIS are actually serving the interests of world powers. Taliban were created with support of USA. The founder of Wahabi extremists ideology was a close friend with a British spy Humphreys.

 

[Dubious]

If those islamists do not back down, the conflicts will reach a tipping point that a crusade against them will be widespread not only in western countries but in the whole world.

If that becomes reality, there will be no voice for even moderate muslims who actually do not deserve to be the victims.

Mark my words.

When exactly has there been a voice for them? We always see Shia/ Sunni conflicts between groups who dont know the basics of Islam but like a twat repeat 1 -2 lines over and over....and I am talking about extremists on both sides Shia as well as Sunni!

Moderate Muslims have never had a voice ...

 

[Jaanbaz]

Terrorists are certainly a tool for the West against us, but all this started because their random invasions of Muslim countries to destroy them, this is just a backlash. Nobody wants to leave their families and happy lives to go fight, but if the fight reaches your doorsteps, then you have no choice

The old argument of defending ones home land. So why do they randomly shoot and bomb civilians? This is the argument of terrorists. What business does British Pakistanis have in fighting ''Jihad'' in Iraq?

 

[GreenFalcon]

The old argument of defending ones home land. So why do they randomly shoot and bomb civilians? This is the argument of terrorists. What business does British Pakistanis have in fighting ''Jihad'' in Iraq?

What business does U.S have in Iraq or Afghanistan?