Are ISIS Muslims?

[Syrian Lion]

Some members here stated that I$I$ as Muslims, and that was said in the Syrian thread, so I'm asking people to see what they think...

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Moderates, if this thread is not allowed then please close it, and I apologize...
@WebMaster @waz @Oscar and other mods...

rest of the members, please keep the discussion civil and respectful, this thread is to see others opinion and thoughts...

 

[Agent Smith]

yes, they are sunnis.

 

[Khalid Newazi]

No,they aren't Muslims. They are like the so called "secular" Muslims, who will do things that are Haram but still call themselves Muslims.

 

[Syrian Lion]

No,they aren't Muslims. They are like the so called "secular" Muslims, who will do things that are Haram but still call themselves Muslims.

I know that, but I was surprised that some called them Muslims

and thanks for your feedback..

 

[gslv]

First you have to ask are they humans?

 

[Arya Desa]

Yes of course they are. They self describe themselves muslim and they fight on behalf of Islam. It's both their driver and their goal.

 

[Khalid Newazi]

First you have to ask are they humans?

As always, Dr.House is right.

 

[Syrian Lion]

Yes of course they are. They self describe themselves muslim and they fight on behalf of Islam. It's both their driver and their goal.

Most of the Muslim community, Muslim scholars and leaders denounced them and their actions...

 

[metronome]

dollar i$lamiya..

 

[gslv]

As always, Dr.House is right.

Also remember I am also an atheist whom you blamed yesterday here in a post, so yes we atheist are not prejudiced.
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[al-Hasani]

The word "Muslim" means one who submits to the will of Allah (swt). Anyone who has publicly pronounced the declaration of faith (shahadah) is in theory a Muslim. Alongside following the Noble Qur'an, and the Sunnah of Prophet Muhammad (saws) and the basic Islamic tenants.

One cannot judge Islam by looking at individuals who have a Muslim name alone. You are judged by your actions in Islam. Not what you preach. Muslims are ordinary people like other humans; among them are the good and the bad. They are not infallible creatures and therefore make mistakes.

Judging by the actions of Daesh they do not behave as Muslims. Whether they truly believe in Islam or not is something that you have to ask Daesh members.

Why ask this question? Look what the islamic community thinks about them, leading clerics, the vast majority of Muslims etc. and you will have your answer.

Allah (swt) will be their judge like he will be yours and my judge and that of everyone else.

@Syrian Lion

Unfortuantely this will turn into another anti-Muslim thread and likely anti-Arab sentiments by the same few trolls will be uttered too.

 

[Arya Desa]

Most of the Muslim community, Muslim scholars and leaders denounced them and their actions...

I'm not saying they represent mainstream Islam or any version that is true. What I'm trying to say is they represent what they call Islam and we can't just denounce it. Just like how Ahamediyyas say they are muslim when they have a prophet after Mohammed. The label self imposed is just as valuable as the one given.

 

[Syrian Lion]

@Syrian Lion

Unfortuantely this will turn into another anti-Muslim thread and likely anti-Arab sentiments by the same few trolls will be uttered too.

for once I hope for a civil discussion and respectful debate/discussion, and I ask the mods to help us achieve that, and the members here, do not reply to the trolls please, report button is there for a reason, lets all try to have a respectful discussion FOR ONCE!

 

[Al Bhatti]

Call them UIS (Un-Islamic State)

 

[Syrian Lion]

I'm not saying they represent mainstream Islam or any version that is true. What I'm trying to say is they represent what they call Islam and we can't just denounce it. Just like how Ahamediyyas say they are muslim when they have a prophet after Mohammed. The label self imposed is just as valuable as the one given.

so they are part of Islam or no?