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I'd rather not be in a car crash, thank you very much.
The point made and exposed the contradiction in you, you're welcome.
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I'd rather not be in a car crash, thank you very much.
The point made and exposed the contradiction in you, you're welcome.
They will ''win'' anyways dont worry.I'm absolutely supporting BMC. I hope they win the tender.
I am predicting Otokar and BMC to win the tender... FNSS has the Pindad contract for Indonesia.
They will ''win'' anyways dont worry.
Lol, you can't be anymore wrong... I don't have time though....Unlike Koc/Otokar, BMC is trying to develop something on its own. All Koc-related engine projects are connected to Ford Otosan. Due to this particular partnership between Ford and Koc, Americans will always be involved. Why do you think we didn't achieve anything with the technological knowhow (ecotorq engine) of Ford Otosan yet?
Ethem Sancak ülkeyi cok düsünüyor gercekten, gözlerim doldu.If you ask me, I would split the order between Otokar and BMC. I am not in favor of monopolizing our defense industry. And - PLEASE - spare me with this nonsense that only Koc/Otokar can produce a tank like Altay. This is a flat out lie. Koc Holding has an annual turnover of 20 billion USD and in the past they didn't even touch any undertaking that is critical for Turkey like the electric car project. These guys simply don't care. They're businessman who only invest in safe projects with no risks like Altay. I'm not mad at them but unlike you and your wannabe Kemalist friends here I am mature enough to think critical. I don't care whether Qatar or any other country is a share holder of BMC; I don't care about the personal relationship between the owner of BMC and Erdogan. I am not going to put all our eggs in one basket just because the Koc family appears to be secular.
Unlike Koc/Otokar, BMC is trying to develop something on its own. All Koc-related engine projects are connected to Ford Otosan. Due to this particular partnership between Ford and Koc, Americans will always be involved. Why do you think we didn't achieve anything with the technological knowhow (ecotorq engine) of Ford Otosan yet?
I guess you would prefer to be in a Chery rather than a BMW in a car crash.
They (BMC) just do resembling the tank. The technology is available from SSM.
I'm absolutely supporting BMC. I hope they win the tender.
Can you explain please. Because I like reading about accomplishments of companies.Lol, you can't be anymore wrong... I don't have time though....
1-) Ecotorq engine have been developed and produced solely by Otosan.Can you explain please. Because I like reading about accomplishments of companies.
https://www.fordotosan.com.tr/tr/faaliyetlerimiz/ar-ge/teknolojilerimiz/ecotorq-motor-ailesi100 milyon doların üzerinde yatırımla hayata geçirilen ve Türkiye’de sıfırdan geliştirilip üretilen ilk ve tek kamyon motoru olan Yeni Nesil Ecotorq motor ailesi, teknoloji ve Ar-Ge gücümüzün kanıtıdır. Fikri ve sinai hakları tamamen bize ait olan, Euro-6 emisyonlarını sağlayan ve Euro-7 emisyonlarına uyumlu olacak şekilde geliştirilen Ecotorq Motor ve EGAS ailesi; 330, 420 ve 480 PS güç üretebilmektedir.
Thanks for the info. I already new about the development of the eco-torq engine (the China deal was new for me though). I was secretly hoping you would list other accomplishments from Otosan, but I'll browse their website further to read up on them.1-) Ecotorq engine have been developed and produced solely by Otosan.
https://www.fordotosan.com.tr/tr/faaliyetlerimiz/ar-ge/teknolojilerimiz/ecotorq-motor-ailesi
Otosan even sold ToT of the engine to some Chinese company.
http://www.invest.gov.tr/en-US/info...s-production-of-locally-developed-engine.aspx
Product belongs solely to Otosan. There is no US involvement or whatsoever.
BMC however is trying to develop a drive-train with Cummins.
There was an image from a presentation of BMC (shared in this forum)
Talk about US involvement....