Akhand Bharat possible, will be good for Pakistan, says RSS chief Mohan Bhagwat

[Splurgenxs]

CPEC through Gilgit started long after 1947. even if Gilgit were to become independent, CPEC will benefit those people in the long run anyway. its not like they wont be trading and want a good relationship with their neighbours (Pakistan, China, Afghanistan).

Yea if global history or realpolitik had any leverage over this narrative , both countries would have come to an agreement .
A consolidated Kashmiri region will only bring a buffer and nothing more to the Chines and Pakistani angle and more trouble from Parties that want to influence counter. Deals don't get made in a i win you lose situation.
Not to mention In the end it would become another Afghanistan with asymmetrical player wreaking havoc.

oh yeah? does Gilgit and Azad Kashmir look like its under lockdown? we have done more damage than India? look like you have drunk a bit too much of the indian kool aid.

Rebuttal make no sense.

From a Pakistani perspective:
Are Indian actions and unrest strengthening or weakening the cause? Think.
And if you want to claim the the Pakistani insurgency is real(and has strengthened the cause.)
Then the UN angle fails. A Catch 22 yes?

From the Indian perspective:
1000 cuts , Kashmir leke rehinge , laughably obvious insurgency, many UN countries actively moving against this form of abrasive coercive strategies. The world is not an idiot that it gets swayed by disinfo.

From a Kashmiri perspective:
They are playing us , nothings going to happen, our children's are uneducated with no future, and infrastructure is shit.
Both sides are evil.

From my perspective.
The more Pakistan brings Kashmir up the more the cause looses Credibility. Seems a failed state looking to make another failed state. On top a singular Muslim non liberal state. yea right good luck convincing anyone.

It should have be a UN centric approach through and through, but unfortunately its was made into such a mess that no one can claim a moral high-ground in the UN senate , let alone convince anyone to do anything.

All it seems like , for a lack of a better word , is randi-rona , from all angles. With no resources or will to make anything happen by anyone.

 

[Bilal9]

How conveniently and easily they changes the narrative on different occasions...dichotomy and hypocrisy.

RSS on other occasions...

Savarkar’s thesis
Bhagwat’s comment is not entirely new. Savarkar in his 1923 book Hindutva, also talks of converted Muslims and Christians. In his opinion, even a converted Muslims cannot be accommodated into the Hindutva-fold.

He says: “Some of our Mohammedan or Christian countrymen who had originally been forcibly converted to a non-Hindu religion and who consequently have inherited along with Hindus, a common Fatherland and a greater part of the wealth of a common culture — language, law, customs, folklore and history — are not and cannot be recognized as Hindus. For though Hindus than to them is Fatherland as to any other Hindu yet it is not to them a Holyland… Their holyland is far off in Arabia or Palestine.”

The contradiction in Savarkar’s argument is that Hindu religion should not be treated as the decisive criterion to determine the Hindutva of any group of people; however, when it comes to converted Muslims and Christians, their belief in holy places of worship is treated as a principle to evaluate their patriotism.

RSS may remind Muslims of their Hindu ancestry, but will never truly accept them

RSS chief Mohan Bhagwat said Muslims in India must realise that their forefathers were Hindus, but the connection he tries to make is an attempt to mislead.

theprint.in

they do!!! believe you me, they are in the govt.

Man !!

You burst my balloon !

Here I was - thinking that converting back to the Sanatan Dharma, getting some nice dhotis and gerua clothes made would launch my Sanghi political career.

And now I am super bummed.

Drat !!

 

[N.Siddiqui]

Man !!

You burst my balloon !

Here I was - thinking that converting back to the Sanatan Dharma, getting some nice dhotis and gerua clothes made would launch my Sanghi political career.

And now I am super bummed.

Drat !!

BJP is an offshoot of BJS, Bharatiya Jan Sangh...made to looked a more trimmed, lesser evil, open ended(to Muslims, others)

Jan Sangh’s stand
Bharatiya Jan Sangh (BJS), a political party, however, offered a practical way out to this ‘Muslim question’. The party’s official manifesto of 1951 says: “Jana Sangh considers them (Muslims) flesh of our flesh, the blood of our blood. …It looks forward to their disassociating foreign ways from the tenets of their religion. They are welcome to worship the Islamic way. They are expected to live the Bharatiya way.” (The Organizer, 29 October 1951)

This emphasis on the Bhartiya way eventually led to a full-fledged idea of Indianisation. The 1957 manifesto of the BJS, for example, identifies Indianisation as one of the main objectives. It says: “For the preservation of national unity…Jana Sangh will take the following steps: (a) Creating a feeling of equality and oneness of Hindu society by liquidating untouchability and casteism (b) Nationalising all non-Hindus by inculcating in them the ideal of Bhartiya Culture”. (BJS, Party Documents, p. 104)

It is clear that Savarkar, Golwalkar, BJS and even Bhagwat make a clear distinction between Hindus and non-Hindus. A born Hindu, in this framework, would naturally qualify as a patriot; while non-Hindus would have to be Indianised (read Hinduisation!).

This is the reason why all Muslims are asked to demonstrate their loyalty — they have to sing Vande Mataram, change their names, remove verses from the Quran to make it Indian, and celebrate India’s victory over Pakistan in cricket match.

Yet, they won’t become Hindu/Indian/patriot, primarily because the loosely worked out definition of Hindutva by the RSS is apprehensive about the outcome of Indianisation itself.


the first part of the article:

RSS benefits most from keeping Hindutva loosely defined

Hindutva is celebrated by the RSS/BJP; but there is no serious effort to clarify it.

theprint.in

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Yea if global history or realpolitik had any leverage over this narrative , both countries would have come to an agreement .
A consolidated Kashmiri region will only bring a buffer and nothing more to the Chines and Pakistani angle and more trouble from Parties that want to influence counter. Deals don't get made in a i win you lose situation.
Not to mention In the end it would become another Afghanistan with asymmetrical player wreaking havoc.


Rebuttal make no sense.

From a Pakistani perspective:
Are Indian actions and unrest strengthening or weakening the cause? Think.
And if you want to claim the the Pakistani insurgency is real(and has strengthened the cause.)
Then the UN angle fails. A Catch 22 yes?

From the Indian perspective:
1000 cuts , Kashmir leke rehinge , laughably obvious insurgency, many UN countries actively moving against this form of abrasive coercive strategies. The world is not an idiot that it gets swayed by disinfo.

From a Kashmiri perspective:
They are playing us , nothings going to happen, our children's are uneducated with no future, and infrastructure is shit.
Both sides are evil.

From my perspective.
The more Pakistan brings Kashmir up the more the cause looses Credibility. Seems a failed state looking to make another failed state. On top a singular Muslim non liberal state. yea right good luck convincing anyone.

It should have be a UN centric approach through and through, but unfortunately its was made into such a mess that no one can claim a moral high-ground in the UN senate , let alone convince anyone to do anything.

All it seems like , for a lack of a better word , is randi-rona , from all angles. With no resources or will to make anything happen by anyone.

The evidence and facts conclusively prove that india is the BIGGEST failed state in the ENTIRE history of mankind. india contains 40% of the ENTIRE earth's most severely malnourished, starving and extreme poor people in the world. Over 732 million indians defecate in the open. india is the biggest beggar on the world stage that is also the biggest recipient of american aid:

More than 732 million Indians don’t have access to toilets: Report

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A third of the world’s poor live in India, says UN

South Asia and Sub-Saharan Africa are home to the majority of the extremely poor people in the world, states this year's Millennium Development Goal report.Ac

www.downtoearth.org.in

India top recipient of US economic aid - Times of India

US News: India has been identified as the largest recipient of U.S economic assistance over a 66-year period in inflation-adjusted dollars although Washington'

m.timesofindia.com

Why India remains malnourished

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India houses 24% of world's malnourished; 30% of stunted children under 5

India has shown improvement in reducing child stunting but with 46.6 million stunted children, the country is home to over 30.9% of all stunted children under five--the highest in the world

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Half of the world’s poor live in just 5 countries

Of the world’s 736 million extreme poor in 2015, 368 million—half of the total—lived in just 5 countries. The 5 countries with the highest number of extreme poor are (in descending order): India, Nigeria, Democratic Republic of Congo, Ethiopia, and Bangladesh.

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India has one third of world's poorest, says World Bank

One in three of the world's poorest people are living in India, the world's second-fastest growing economy, according to a new study by the World Bank.

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India accused of poverty 'smokescreen'

India has been accused of creating a "smokescreen" to conceal the true scale of poverty in the country after the government claimed to have lifted more than 50 million people above the threshold in the last five years.

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[newb3e]

since lord Modi couldnt get it up so his wife left will yindoo deep freeze siri Modi g sperm and use it to impregnate that ugly byach something devi and get a themselves a leader who will rule the fictional Akhand yindoo heaven?

 

[wasileo80]

A union of some sort, free movement, a somewhat synchronized economic structure, an end to proxy warfare and military hostilities.

Seriously, Pakistan have a lot of gain from such a scenario. Much better off having Adani, TATA, L&T etc developing your ports and infra than the Chinese and their long term debt traps.

Keep your Adani, TATA, L&T and these BJP bhagts with you. we dont need them and if you want to know the infrastructure of Pakistan do visit Pakistan you will forget your Mother India.
Wake up kid dont lives in fool's paradise.

 

[S.Y.A]

I dont understand, on one hand they say that Ghauri and Ghaznavi were outsiders, Pritihviraaj was a "veer yodha", and at the same time they say that Afghanistan was a part of india. if the latter if to be believed, than ghaznavid and ghurid conquests were nothing but an inside affair, and there is no need for them to get butt-hurt over it, and praise prithviraaj as a hero.

 

[HHindustani78]

How Akhand Bharat will be good for Pakistan....??

Kingdom of Safavid doesn't believe in the Commandments of Supreme Creator which is with Haad wo Haadood !!!-

Sutoon will be not possible !!! Haqqun Zahirun !!!

BTW this Akhand Bharat thought and ides are more about a Real Estate deal and gobbling up the lands at premium, than it is about the people and integrating them.

Sutoon is Established with the Authority of Allah Rabbul Alameen !!! Invaders & Colonizers are always failure !!!

For RSS it is always the land and not the people.

Sutoon comes with Good Tides with Full of Prosperity !!!

 

[wasileo80]

no beef lynchings this year, unless I missed something.

anyway, point was clear.. Pak have issues with Pashtoon nationalism, resentment toward the Punjabis by the others, issues in Balochistan and Sindh. Not like you're not dealing with this stuff.. also honour killings, forced conversions/abductions of minorities, religious extremism, the Shia-Sunni divide, Ahmedis ostracized and discriminated against by the state.

Pakistan have these issues only in Godi Media and you people believe those.. good for you and you are literally Aliens to this world and realitities of this world. Come out from your godi media stories and do some research by yourself. Dont believe what your godi media and bollywood tells you.

 

[HHindustani78]

I dont understand, on one hand they say that Ghauri and Ghaznavi were outsiders, Pritihviraaj was a "veer yodha", and at the same time they say that Afghanistan was a part of india. if the latter if to be believed, than ghaznavid and ghurid conquests were nothing but an inside affair, and there is no need for them to get butt-hurt over it, and praise prithviraaj as a hero.

Quam se Mohabbat, Imaan Walon ke Pehchaan Hoti Hai !!! Hindu Clans Knows about Hindu Clans !!!

Timurid Dynasty Sebuting & Alpting !!!

 

[PakistaniAtBahrain]

Yea if global history or realpolitik had any leverage over this narrative , both countries would have come to an agreement .
A consolidated Kashmiri region will only bring a buffer and nothing more to the Chines and Pakistani angle and more trouble from Parties that want to influence counter. Deals don't get made in a i win you lose situation.
Not to mention In the end it would become another Afghanistan with asymmetrical player wreaking havoc.


Rebuttal make no sense.

From a Pakistani perspective:
Are Indian actions and unrest strengthening or weakening the cause? Think.
And if you want to claim the the Pakistani insurgency is real(and has strengthened the cause.)
Then the UN angle fails. A Catch 22 yes?

From the Indian perspective:
1000 cuts , Kashmir leke rehinge , laughably obvious insurgency, many UN countries actively moving against this form of abrasive coercive strategies. The world is not an idiot that it gets swayed by disinfo.

From a Kashmiri perspective:
They are playing us , nothings going to happen, our children's are uneducated with no future, and infrastructure is shit.
Both sides are evil.

From my perspective.
The more Pakistan brings Kashmir up the more the cause looses Credibility. Seems a failed state looking to make another failed state. On top a singular Muslim non liberal state. yea right good luck convincing anyone.

It should have be a UN centric approach through and through, but unfortunately its was made into such a mess that no one can claim a moral high-ground in the UN senate , let alone convince anyone to do anything.

All it seems like , for a lack of a better word , is randi-rona , from all angles. With no resources or will to make anything happen by anyone.

everything you say can be summed up this way. Kashmiris on Pakistan's side of the border are far happier than those on the Indian side. a lot of what you said were incoherent ramblings that made no sense to me. by the way, are you hindu or muslim?

 

[newb3e]

Quam se Mohabbat, Imaan Walon ke Pehchaan Hoti Hai !!! Hindu Clans Knows about Hindu Clans !!!

Timurid Dynasty Sebuting & Alpting !!!

kia is Qoum may sirf hindu hain? aur agar hindu aik clan hain toh dalits hindu clan ko lead kar saktay hain?

 

[HHindustani78]

everything you say can be summed up this way. Kashmiris on Pakistan's side of the border are far happier than those on the Indian side. a lot of what you said were incoherent ramblings that made no sense to me. by the way, are you hindu or muslim?

River Hindu Yani Indus River is Polluted by Chinese Industries !!! Paalak is Paalak only !!!

 

[bahadur]

HYDERABAD: Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh chief Mohan Bhagwat on Thursday said there is a need for ‘akhand Bharat’ (undivided India) and it would suit better for countries like Pakistan which got separated from India.

Speaking at a Sanskrit book launch, Bhagwat said ‘Akhand Bharat’ is possible with Hindu dharma. “We consider countries like Pakistan and Afghanistan as ours. Once they are with us, it does not matter what they practise or what they eat. It is not colonialism. India believes in Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam (the world is one family).”

He sought to know if Pakistan and Gandhar (which became Afghanistan later) are having peace and trust ever since they were formed. “Because they are separated from the energy of life (India), we are open to treat them as our own as they were before,” he said.

Saying that ‘akhand Bharat’ is possible, he said some people have expressed doubts on division of India six months before it happened. “Jawaharlal Nehru rubbished it as a dream of fools. Similarly, anything can happen,” he said. “Lord Wavell (during British rule) said in British Parliament that god has made India one and who is going to divide it,” he recalled.

According to Bhagwat, talking of ‘akhand Bharat’ does not mean imposing colonialism. “When we talk about united, we don’t talk about power, it is about people. They are united through ‘sanatana dharma,’ which is called Hindu dharma,” the RSS chief asserted.

The RSS chief will be in Adilabad to attend a private programme on Friday.
He sought to know if Pakistan and Gandhar (which became Afghanistan later) are having peace and trust ever since they were formed

Akhand Bharat possible, will be good for Pakistan, says RSS chief Mohan Bhagwat | Hyderabad News - Times of India

Speaking at a Sanskrit book launch, Bhagwat said ‘Akhand Bharat’ is possible with Hindu dharma. “We consider countries like Pakistan and Afghanistan a

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

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another glimpse into the expansionist ideology of India. not only are they talking about adding the lands of Pakistan and Bangladesh into their shithole concept called Bharat, they are now even talking about adding Afghanistan into it. this RSS is the brainchild of political parties like the BJP and Shiv Sena, and have senior officers in their military indoctrinated with this crap.

only hindu akhand bharat is good for india , no other akhand bharat is acceptable .

 

[HHindustani78]

kia is Qoum may sirf hindu hain? aur agar hindu aik clan hain toh dalits hindu clan ko lead kar saktay hain?

Quam means Nation - Nation is consist of Clanship Tribesman - Clanship is further expanded in Sub-Clanships !!!

Arabs and Arya's are been given Ownership by Allah Rabbul Alameen and the Proof of this is the Holy Scriptures !!! Arya's are Ahle Kitabun !!! Raja Dahir was defeated by Joint Arab & Arya's Clanships !!!