Why US would want india whole?

[Rollno21]

As long as “standing ground” means China liberating 200 kms of their territory and India waiting to let them take the rest, than you are absolutely correct.

we must all remember that India had wrongly patrolled these areas for 58 years they have now moved 3 kms behind from this location in anticipation for the Chinese taking back the rest of their territory.
Kv

We know China's weakness ,we got involved in a land dispute which is between China and Bhutan and stopped the Chinese and we pulled back and still after 2 years Chinese have not started the work there .and here we claim the land,so you can imagine if you have a sane mind.


You guys can question one china policy and see what they do to you guys ,you will realise higher than mountain or deeper than ocean won't save you ,but we question one china policy for years now.

 

[GumNaam]

Don't be desperate ,now substance 1962 from 2020 and tell me the answer ,how many years it is.

Even in 1962 they pulled back and called for unilateral ceasefire when India was reinforcing.

Common mate one incident from last 40 years atleast one were they defended a post while on a UN mission .

typical indian...gets a new bunghole ripped into it & calls it a victory! you think aksaichin would've still been in their control if they had unilaterally pulled back? stop acting like the soorma that you are not, making a fool outta yourselves.

 

[pothead]

typical indian...gets a new bunghole ripped into it & calls it a victory! you think aksaichin would've still been in their control if they had unilaterally pulled back? stop acting like the soorma that you are not, making a fool outta yourselves.

What's with you guys fascination with Bungholes?

I understand your frand is getting slaughtered at the border but control buddy....Your frand getting banged does not reflect on you.
Don't get so emotional.

 

[GumNaam]

What's with you guys fascination with Bungholes?

I understand your frand is getting slaughtered at the border but control buddy....Your frand getting banged does not reflect on you.
Don't get so emotional.

whose bunghole is getting slaughtered?

 

[pothead]

whose bunghole is getting slaughtered?
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Xitler and Imran promoting Gay rights?

 

[GumNaam]

Xitler and Imran promoting Gay rights?

hey as long as you enjoy having a big stiff Chinese rod with barbed wires shoved up your "galwan valley" then who am I to complain, knock yourselves out!

 

[pothead]

hey as long as you enjoy having a big stiff Chinese rod with barbed wires shoved up your "galwan valley" then who am I to complain, knock yourselves out!

You seem to have measured Chinese "rods" & seemed to have come to a conclusion that they are "big"..

I am all for minority rights man, especially gays, trans etc etc...
Love man...peace out.

 

[Khan vilatey]

whose bunghole is getting slaughtered?
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You seem to have measured Chinese "rods" & seemed to have come to a conclusion that they are "big"..

I am all for minority rights man, especially gays, trans etc etc...
Love man...peace out.

gentlemen let’s keep this civil.

so according to you India would withdraw to keep bhuthan’s land and apply the same logic in other conflicts with China, hoping China goes back? Is India’s strategy with China to surrender and hope that the Chinese go back?

kv

 

[pothead]

gentlemen let’s keep this civil.

so according to you India would withdraw to keep bhuthan’s land and apply the same logic in other conflicts with China, hoping China goes back? Is India’s strategy with China to surrender and hope that the Chinese go back?

kv

None of us know what India's strategy is at this point.
Remember this, Chinese act of changing status quo has basically given India to so similar acts against China at place of our choosing.

There is a reason why GOI is vocal about 'status ante'...
We can all speculate about what India would do...it sure won't be what Chinese are expecting.

 

[Shah_Deu]

None of us know what India's strategy is at this point.
Remember this, Chinese act of changing status quo has basically given India to so similar acts against China at place of our choosing.

There is a reason why GOI is vocal about 'status ante'...
We can all speculate about what India would do...it sure won't be what Chinese are expecting.

Yeah i totally agree with your strategy whatever it is. But please do something at the time and place of your choosing. We in pakistan would be very much interested in the results.

 

[pothead]

Yeah i totally agree with your strategy whatever it is. But please do something at the time and place of your choosing. We in pakistan would be very much interested in the results.

Not just Pakistan,
this skirmish will have major repercussions across Asia.

If India backs down, none of us will take us seriously as a security guarantee.
If China does Status ante, rest assured east Asian countries will eat it alive.

 

[Khan vilatey]

Not just Pakistan,
this skirmish will have major repercussions across Asia.

If India backs down, none of us will take us seriously as a security guarantee.
If China does Status ante, rest assured east Asian countries will eat it alive.

That’s a very optimistic view. Unfortunately the other side of the coin is that China is getting push back in the South China Sea. It will have mixed results fighting a naval battle with the west and her Neibiour’s that battle is 5-10 years away. China needs at least 5 ~6 carrier strike groups for this.


On the other hand it’s main trade route is via Pakistan and its biggest adversary in the region India, shares a 2600 km land border with China. It’s militarily significantly weaker. China would go for a two pronged approach,

1)salmi tactics and take strategic land away from India which it is doing 200kms taken another 1000 kms to go over 5 years. They will keep India disbanded commit her resources in policing the Chinese border and still lose. India so far has not taken any land from China.

2) build Pakistani forces to change the 2:1 parity India enjoys with Pakistan. Creating significant problems for India militarily. The current estimates show about 1000 new tanks significant sp artillery. At least 250 gen 4.5 aircraft and at least 60 gen 5 aircraft with deep strike capability. Not to mention somewhere around 100-200 drones.
on the naval front a significant build up taking the 5 subs we have today (2 Augusta 70s and 3 Augusta 90s) + 8 more submarines making it 13 subs which are equal to what India has today 8 frigates , 12 corvettes , a multitude of guided missile boats and possibly 4 destroyers. This is a significant fleet that India will need to contend with in the Arabian Sea not to mention at least one Chinese aircraft carrier strike group deployed permanently.

this all if there is no war will be used to negotiate concessions from India

so there is going to be a trilateral war before 2025 benefiting only the west

kv

 

[Khan vilatey]

That’s a very optimistic view. Unfortunately the other side of the coin is that China is getting push back in the South China Sea. It will have mixed results fighting a naval battle with the west and her Neibiour’s that battle is 5-10 years away. China needs at least 5 ~6 carrier strike groups for this.


On the other hand it’s main trade route is via Pakistan and its biggest adversary in the region India, shares a 2600 km land border with China. It’s militarily significantly weaker. China would go for a two pronged approach,

1)salmi tactics and take strategic land away from India which it is doing 200kms taken another 1000 kms to go over 5 years. They will keep India disbanded commit her resources in policing the Chinese border and still lose. India so far has not taken any land from China.

2) build Pakistani forces to change the 2:1 parity India enjoys with Pakistan. Creating significant problems for India militarily. The current estimates show about 1000 new tanks significant sp artillery. At least 250 gen 4.5 aircraft and at least 60 gen 5 aircraft with deep strike capability. Not to mention somewhere around 100-200 drones.
on the naval front a significant build up taking the 5 subs we have today (2 Augusta 70s and 3 Augusta 90s) + 8 more submarines making it 13 subs which are equal to what India has today 8 frigates , 12 corvettes , a multitude of guided missile boats and possibly 4 destroyers. This is a significant fleet that India will need to contend with in the Arabian Sea not to mention at least one Chinese aircraft carrier strike group deployed permanently.

this all if there is no war will be used to negotiate concessions from India

so there is going to be a trilateral war before 2025 befitting only the west

kv

See we are a weaker county so we can’t afford €70 million a pop strike aircraft so most of our air force will focus on air superiority. While cas and strike roles will be handled by 200+ drones. Army will probably by 100+ for CAS

here are the Pakistani strike aircraft of the future

this still is yesterday’s war but Atleast we are planning to be network centric

 

[Rollno21]

typical indian...gets a new bunghole ripped into it & calls it a victory! you think aksaichin would've still been in their control if they had unilaterally pulled back? stop acting like the soorma that you are not, making a fool outta yourselves.

If they had not pulled back back ,do you think arunachal Pradesh be under Indian control .They kept aksaichin to negotiate for border settlement . Go through some history when you talk about some thing .

 

[GumNaam]

If they had not pulled back back ,do you think arunachal Pradesh be under Indian control .They kept aksaichin to negotiate for border settlement . Go through some history when you talk about some thing .

yeah you sold aksaichin after you begged them to give arunqchql pradesh back during negotiations. your not exactly helping your case here!