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Seriously tho, why do you guys even take that @Arabian Legend character serious? That tool is only good for thanking Al-Hasani`s posts, opening such stupid threads and nothing more...Better to ignore the fool
Idk about Europe but in Turkey yeah.Are those Turks living in the Netherlands? That's what i meant, otherwise you're right about some Turks joining arms against Assad in Syria
The difference is, the ones in Turkey existed since decades but allways in small numbers, and they didnt have any influence in daily life.@xenon54
There are such groups in Turkey too, even if small in numbers they're just like Al Qaeda sympathizans.
Here's something you should know,Whats more scary is that heir propaganda works goods, even a gyps in my working place who allways told us that he is a Greek became a salafi.
I was once in a Arabic mosque with a friend of mine because we was late to teravi and couldnt reach the Turkish mosque, after the prayer some beardies asked us where we are from because we obviously didnt looked like Arabs.
So we told we are Turks, at the beginning they was nice and friendly to us, they talked about how beautyful Istanbul is and how many mosques there are.
Later they began to talk about how unfair the life in Europe is and how they are oppressing muslims and that we need to defend us against this.After this point me and my friend quickly left the place.
Also once we was chilling at the park and some salafists had a conference in a hall just nearby, they came to us and one of them saw my Ottoman Tughra necklace, they imadiately invited us to their ''conference'' but we said no.
These guys are damn dangerous man, we gotta be careful, i try to avoid them as much as possible.
You know what kind of people im referring to if you read my comments completely.Here's something you should know,
Syed Qutub was also a Salafist.
It's especially a problem because many of the low educated muslim youngsters (especially theMoroccan ones) here are often complaining about the 'oppressing' life in the Netherlands, so they seek some way out, a way which makes them feel respected, without realizing the path they entered.The difference is, the ones in Turkey existed since decades but allways in small numbers, and they didnt have any influence in daily life.
But the ones in Europe are pretty sucessfuly, their number is growing, and the numbers of young muslims going to Syria from Europe prove it.
The exact same problem exist here too.It's especially a problem because many of the low educated muslim youngsters (especially theMoroccan ones) here are often complaining about the 'oppressing' life in the Netherlands, so they seek some way out, a way which makes them feel respected, without realizing the path they entered.
I had a muslim Bosnian friend once. As you know muslim Bosnians in general are pro-Turks, so was this dude. However, after some years he suddenly grew a beard, didn't come to Turkish mosque to pray anymore, became very religious, began to speak about religious matters so much, he had an anti-Turkish tone (that we 'betrayed' Islam by trying to join the EU etc) and whatnot. It was as if an Arab was talking to me, and that says a lot. I can't believe that he came to such findings by his own while he had some Turkish friends. More probable is that he got influenced through hanging out with the wrong types of muslim Arabic guys, probably outcasts as himself as well. with such people in Islam, the negative image of Islam will only grow, i'm afraid.
Whom you see as Salafists are mostly not, most I've met or known are just ignorants and extremists. Salafisim calls for acting like the prophet and his followers who were the purest Muslims. However, nobody pays someone to become a Salafist or sth. And please don't belittle the ones who grow beards for religious purposes just because ignorants and terrorists grow them, it's Sunnah to grow beards.Let me tell you something, there are many Kosovo Albanians in my working place, at the beginning they were just ordinary guys like you and me but a couple years ago they began to grow beards and began to say we are salafists.
You know at Ramadan Turks begin one day later than Saudis and end it one day later, so these guys said you Turks are doing everything wrong and such stuff.
I allways wondered why these guys became so radical from one day to another, later i found out that Arabs are making propaganda in mosques where muslims from balkan go and some sheiks pay them for beeing salafis, i dont know why they are doing this, maybe to get fresh blood for their various terrorist groups.
This could also explain why so many young muslims from Europe join jihad in Syria and other places.
Im dead serious about this, not trolling or something.
Well ok lets say extremists, i called them salafists because they call themselves salafi.Whom you see as Salafists are mostly not, most I've met or known are just ignorants and extremists. Salafisim calls for acting like the prophet and his followers who were the purest Muslims.
You have no clue whats going on in Europe mate, three other Turks living in Europe or somewhre else confirmed what i said, im not talking some BS here.However, nobody pays someone to become a Salafist or sth.
I know, i was referring to the extremists, my Oncle also has a beard, i have no problem with that but with their mentality.And please don't belittle the ones who grow beards for religious purposes just because ignorants and terrorists grow them, it's Sunnah to grow beards.
I bet you are. But mentally, you are in a cave, just like most of the Arabs.
What Arab propaganda man? Islam is Islam. I bet there is no difference between our and your Quraan. You also believe in Sahih Sunnah just like us. So....Yeah, Turkish mosques in Europe are very well organized by Turkish state, these guys cant do this kind of propaganda in our mosques, thank god.
I know a old Turkish man whos is involved in mosque organisation stuff, he even helped to establish a mosque here, he is well informed about this stuff, he told me about the Arab propaganda in Balkan mosques.
Whom you see as Salafists are mostly not, most I've met or known are just ignorants and extremists. Salafisim calls for acting like the prophet and his followers who were the purest Muslims. However, nobody pays someone to become a Salafist or sth. And please don't belittle the ones who grow beards for religious purposes just because ignorants and terrorists grow them, it's Sunnah to grow beards.
The propaganda that young muslims must go to Syria for Sharia for exsample, why do so many young muslims give up their life in Europe and go to Syria?What Arab propaganda man? Islam is Islam. I bet there is no difference between our and your Quraan. You also believe in Sahih Sunnah just like us. So....