Why does India want to compare itself to China?

[53fd]

Zip....neither has China.A creditor isn't granting charity Bilal.

Charity is all semantics. Let's look at it in terms of debt. In terms of debt, the US is piled up with it, as is Pakistan; but the US has it up its throat, a lot of it coming from China. I don't think India has done something like that for the US. Things were so bad that the debt ceiling had to be increased.

 

[JayAtl]

India faced more casualties from terrorism from 1994-2005 than Pakistan has had from 2001-2011.

Btw, do you want me to quote you all the statements coming out from India about the threat Pakistan's weapons pose to India?

Most casualties being from terrorists in Kashmir

Please quote the threats , other than vanilla protests to not sell weapons to you. Your think tanks, including your military knows that there is no way it can hold off india , in a conventional war beyond 48 hrs... You just don't have the military infrastructure to sustain a continuous onslaught. India has moved on from seeing Pakistan as a war threat... Just terrorism

 

[53fd]

Most casualties being from terrorists in Kashmir

Please quote the threats , other than vanilla protests to not sell weapons to you. You buys, including your military knows that there is no way it can hold off india , in a conventional war, beyond 48 hrs... You just don't have the military infrastructure to sustain a continuous onslaught

Can we stick to the topic please? If you don't like my data, challenge it.

 

[Trisonics]

Why do Indians want to compare their nation to China, & equate Pakistan to Afghanistan, when by all socioeconomic, political, health, development measures etc, India & Pakistan are very similar; & India is nothing like Pakistan. Saying Pakistan is like Afghanistan is like saying India is like Afghanistan.

Firstly, neither Indians nor the Chinese compared each other but the fact two poor, unassuming countries from Asia started to grow got the press and experts all over the world inquisitive. What started as an amazing growth story gradually turned into a comparison between the two. India wants to replicate Chinese growth and I'm not the only Indian to admit that they are far ahead in the so called race. I'm surprised at your ignorance and bias when you claim Indians compare themselves to China. Its the experts, the press and maybe some nutcases.

Afghanistan and Pakistan are both hot-bed for terrorism in the world. Follow the same race, religion and cultural values. One example is OBL who found safe haven in both countries and tons of support.

 

[cyphercide]

Charity is all semantics. Let's look at it in terms of debt. In terms of debt, the US is piled up with it, as is Pakistan; but the US has it up its throat, a lot of it coming from China. I don't think India has done something like that for the US. Things were so bad that the debt ceiling had to be increased.

It's not.Charity or aid needn't be paid back whereas debt has be repaid regardless of your financial standing,It's either hard cash or the state assets that you pledged it on.One way or the other,China is going to get back it's money.The debt ceiling of the United States has been revised plenty of times,this time it is being played as an election debating issue.

Using China as a role model doesn't necessarily mean blinding aping everything that the nation does.If we did,there would be no MFN status to Pakistan a decade back,no duty free exports for 5 SAARC countries,no writing off debt of African nations etc.We do want to follow China's path but that doesn't mean we want to be China's clone.

 

[53fd]

Charity or aid needn't be paid back whereas debt has be repaid regardless of your financial standings,

You clearly do not understand the difference between a grant & a loan. Aid can be either depending on the situation.

 

[JayAtl]

Can we stick to the topic please? If you don't like my data, challenge it.

The results of them being a stark difference. You have cited parameters or share of the pie, forgetting your pie is a mini me pizza. Citing you have same percentage of services, does not mean you have the same or even close to the high yeild services. That's like saying why does a Mercedes owner not compare himself to a yugo car owner , after all both have a car!

 

[cyphercide]

You clearly do not understand the difference between a grant & a loan. Aid can be both depending on the situation.

Now you are haggling semantics pal.The nature of US aid was never in question,it's non refundable and that's why your senators want it stopped especially to creditors like China and India.

 

[53fd]

The results of them being a stark difference. You have cited parameters or share of the pie, forgetting your pie is a mini me pizza.

I think the parameters themselves pretty much covers most walks of life that everyday Indians have to go through, & how India on a whole fares.

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Now you are haggling semantics pal.The nature of US aid was never in question,it's non refundable and that's why your senators want it stopped especially to creditors like China and India.

Again, that is (being labeled aid) very questionable & arguable. A lot of this 'aid' you are mentioning goes towards building geostrategic influence in a region & having a presence, not a freebie at all.

 

[JayAtl]

I think the parameters themselves pretty much covers most walks of life that everyday Indians have to go through, & how India on a whole fares.

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Again, that is (being labeled aid) very questionable. A lot of this 'aid' you are mentioning goes towards building geostrategic influence in a region & having a presence, not a freebie at all.

Citing you have same percentage of services, does not mean you have the same or even close to the high yeild services. That's like saying why does a Mercedes owner not compare himself to a yugo car owner , after all both have a car!

Feel free to hope so...

 

[53fd]

India's economic structure is completely different from China's as well. India's economy is highly dependent on FDI, as it drives its service sector. Once the rate of FDI inflows slows down, it impact the service sector, & it slows down the GDP growth rates. India also has high & rising inflation, & because they don't have a manufacturing base like China does, they cannot overcome their problems so easily. China has a much big manufacturing base, so it makes sense for them to devalue their currency, as it helps their exports. Inflation & devaluation of the Indian rupee affects India mostly adversely.

 

[blood]

how can pakistan be compared to india , it is in total mess , in india we talk about pakistan only when it comes to terrorism , we can't bring down our standards by seeing pakistan as our competitor , if we really want some changes in our country we must compete with countries like china or usa

 

[53fd]

how can pakistan be compared to india , it is in total mess , in india we talk about pakistan only when it comes to terrorism , we can't bring down our standards by seeing pakistan as our competitor , if we really want some changes in our country we must compete with countries like china or usa

Yes, it is a shame that India likes to think it is in competition with China, when it is nothing like China, & is very similar to its neighbor 1/7th its size (by population) in all fields of life.

 

[JayAtl]

India's economic structure is completely different from China's as well. India's economy is highly dependent on FDI, as it drives its service sector. Once the rate of FDI inflows slows down, it impact the service sector, & it slows down the GDP growth rates. India also has high & rising inflation, & because they don't have a manufacturing base like China does, they cannot overcome their problems so easily. China has a much big manufacturing base, so it makes sense for them to devalue their currency, as it helps their exports. Inflation & devaluation of the Indian rupee affects India mostly adversely.

You really need to give up on economic banter. You keep posting the same ignorance... You need to start you own musings... Because just like him, in spite of being shown the folly of your ways , you copy paste that above every week. Btw the country you reside in is also a service based economy...

 

[cyphercide]

Again, that is (being labeled aid) very questionable & arguable. A lot of this 'aid' you are mentioning goes towards building geostrategic influence in a region & having a presence, not a freebie at all.

Well,let's take it as you put it across then.the "geostrategic influence" is non refundable,cannot be canceled out on the trade deficit and has been given out since a long time now.Also,China would've booted such funds out in a second if they thought it had malicious intent behind them.