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Then perhaps you can explain why is IRI blocking Telegram? If as you say that the president has stated people have the right to protest, then why is it in the past 30+ years only the supporters of IRI have held rallies? How is it that monarchists or socialists or reformists have not taken advantage of this "right"?
Just heard that Mr. Khamenie is blaming "the enemies" of IRI for what's happening in Iran. Perhaps it will bode better for IRI to look in the mirror, clean house, and listen to her citizens.

Shutting down Instagram or other social media outlets is natural especially since these protest haven't been peaceful at all! And they haven't been peaceful because they lack in numbers & they lack in numbers because they aren't protesting any relevant and specific policies that sits with the vast majority of people.

U.S. Government for over 30 years has had a yearly budget of hundreds of millions of dollars to overthrow Iran's government!!! Do you understand how many people you can have on your payroll inside Iran with such a budget?
 
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Shutting down Instagram or other social media outlets is natural especially since these protest haven't been peaceful at all! And they haven't been peaceful because they lack in numbers & they lack in numbers because they aren't protesting any relevant and specific policies that sits with the vast majority of people.

U.S. Government for over 30 years has had a yearly budget of hundreds of millions of dollars to overthrow Iran's government!!! Do you understand how many people you can have on your payroll inside Iran with such a budget?
Can you name a display of discontent that IRI has not labeled sedation, anti-revolutionary, anti-Iran?
I am sure there are plenty people in IRI on CIA payroll, some even in the government, IRGC, the seminaries, etc. But when you label every single cry for justice, fairness, and transparency a sedation, you are basically crying wolf.
BTW, is IRI a democratic system?
 
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I don't know about you guys but this has MEK and Ayatollah Mike's fingerprints all over it... If you MEK sheeps are reading this you guys are a nothing but a bunch of gutless traitors. How can you side with Mossad and the CIA? You monkeys won't be happy till Iran is turned into a failed state.
No it doesn't, Instead of playing this utterly stupid game of blame you should put your efforts on trying to understand the problem and it's causes and finding some ways to solve it.
 
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Can you name a display of discontent that IRI has not labeled sedation, anti-revolutionary, anti-Iran?
I am sure there are plenty people in IRI on CIA payroll, some even in the government, IRGC, the seminaries, etc. But when you label every single cry for justice, fairness, and transparency a sedation, you are basically crying wolf.
BTW, is IRI a democratic system?

If Iranian leaders blame everything wrong on the west it's because the U.S. openly budgets hundreds of millions of dollars for the overthrow of the Iranian government so you can't claim they are being paranoid!
So yes the least Iran's government can do in response to that is to blame the west for all it's problems even when it's BS!

How can you expect Iran to implement Freedom of Expression, Freedom of Press, Assembly,.... when the U.S. openly has a yearly budget of hundreds of millions of dollars to overthrow Iran's government. No government would implement a policy that would aid a foreign actor in it's own overthrow. It's absurd and most Iranians are smart enough to see that! At the end of the day the MAIN country responsible for the lack of most freedoms in Iran is the U.S. and NOT IRANIAN LEADERS!
As long as U.S. hostilities towards Iran persists the vast majority of Iranian will blame the U.S. for not only economic problems but also lack of various freedoms.

As for what type of government Iran has:
Iran is an "Islamic Republic" that makes it a Theocratic Republic which means it is a Republic confined by Islamic Law!

Republic means majority rules but that doesn't necessarily make it democratic! The Republic part of Iran's government falls under the regular government with elected officials picked by the people and they govern like any other Republic with the exception that the policies they make has to fall in line within the boundaries of Islamic law set by Iran's Supreme Leader.

The theocratic part of Iran's government falls under the Supreme Leader whos job it is to set limits and makes sure the policies the government makes falls within the boundaries of Islamic Law within historical context. Also, because war is a life and death decision Iran's armed forces also fall under the command of Iran's supreme leader.

So yes Iran's supreme leader can make decisions like banning the production of Nuclear Weapons by making them anti Islamic! Declaring war or peace or set other limits but he doesn't govern or make policy and setting limits to policies isn't the same as making them and governing!

Now after Iran's supreme leader passes or retires his position doesn't get passed on to his son just as when Iran's 1st supreme leader passed the government didn't get passed on to his son.

Now I don't know what part of that is so hard for people in the west to understand but that's the type of government Iran has. Is it PERFICT? NO it is NOT! Does it need reforms? In my opinion all governments in the world do. Do all minorities have rights? NO. Only minorities that fall within Iran's version of Islamic law have rights for example Jewish, Christian & Zoroastrian Iranians have the right to assemble, have an elected rep & can practice their own religion freely and have their own temple and churches BUT atheists, agnostics, Satanist,... DO NOT!

It's funny how badly some American official claim to care about how democratic Iran's government is when all of their own main allies in the region are all monarchies whos intelligence agency overthrew Iran's 1st democracy!

Fact is the BEST thing the U.S. can do to make Iran more democratic is to remove all sanctions and just leave Iran alone! Which is something U.S. has shown incapable of doing for the past 60 years
 
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Reality is Ahmadinejad was the winner. Plain and simple. He got the votes on all small cities that hold the majority of Iran's population. He didn't get the votes in Tehran.


Since Iran is in no habit of calling international observers to cover its general elections.
No amount of insisting would be credible.

U.S. openly budgets hundreds of millions of dollars for the overthrow of the Iranian government

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/08/03/politics/us-sends-plane-iran-400-million-cash/index.html

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/u-s-paid-1-3-billion-to-iran-two-days-after-cash-delivery/

Do I need to do some more web search?
 
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If Iranian leaders blame everything wrong on the west it's because the U.S. openly budgets hundreds of millions of dollars for the overthrow of the Iranian government so you can't claim they are being paranoid!
So yes the least Iran's government can do in response to that is to blame the west for all it's problems even when it's BS!

Fair enough against US.
But unfair against the Iranian People.

How can you expect Iran to implement Freedom of Expression, Freedom of Press, Assembly,.... when the U.S. openly has a yearly budget of hundreds of millions of dollars to overthrow Iran's government. No government would implement a policy that would aid a foreign actor in it's own overthrow. It's absurd and most Iranians are smart enough to see that! At the end of the day the MAIN country responsible for the lack of most freedoms in Iran is the U.S. and NOT IRANIAN LEADERS!
As long as U.S. hostilities towards Iran persists the vast majority of Iranian will blame the U.S. for not only economic problems but also lack of various freedoms.

Freedom of expression is a fundamental right which could not be confiscated.
Islamists want this same freedom of expression for themselves in name of "Tableegh", even for exporting their Islamic Revolution to the neighbouring countries.

So, if US uses couple of millions, then Irani government also uses couple of billions in Media, which gives it almost 100% monopoly, while there is NO voice for the Iranian people who differ with Islamic regime and Wilayat-e-Faqih.

I am not saying that banning of Social Media is wrong during roits etc. , but I am asking for the right of Expression of those Iranian people in normal situations, who differ with Islamic State and want to criticize it and want to do "Tableegh" of their views. But in Iran, there exists no such mechanism. Islamists have made criticism of Wilayat-e-Faqih or Islam as a crime and they prison or kill the person for this crime.

But at the same time Islamists present their Prophet Muhammad as a MAZLOOM person who although not killed by the Kuffar of Mecca, but they tried to snatch his right to Preach his views. Nevertheless, what Islamists do today with the opposing views, it is many times worst and more tyranny than what Kuffar of Mecca did.

The bitter and only truth is, even if there was no US interference, still the nature of an Islamic Republic is this that it never gives right of freedom of expression to those people who want to criticize Islamic System and State.

As for what type of government Iran has:
Iran is an "Islamic Republic" that makes it a Theocratic Republic which means it is a Republic confined by Islamic Law!

god didn't make Iran and "Islamist Republic", but it were the people of Iran who made it in the first place. And these same people should have the right to reverse this decision if they feel it was a wrong decision and does not serve them. Snatching away of this right of the Iranian people in name of Islam is tyranny.

Republic means majority rules but that doesn't necessarily make it democratic! The Republic part of Iran's government falls under the regular government with elected officials picked by the people and they govern like any other Republic with the exception that the policies they make has to fall in line within the boundaries of Islamic law set by Iran's Supreme Leader.

When Islamic part was introduced through "Democracy" i.e. through the votes of the Iranian people, then it is only fair that these same people should have the right to dispose off this system if them want.
Why to cling to the powers even if majority of Iranians show their will against this system?

The theocratic part of Iran's government falls under the Supreme Leader whos job it is to set limits and makes sure the policies the government makes falls within the boundaries of Islamic Law within historical context. Also, because war is a life and death decision Iran's armed forces also fall under the command of Iran's supreme leader.

Some what same arguments are also presented by the Socialist Party of China, and communist party of Russia who banned Islamic laws even if the majority of people of those states were Muslims. At that time Islamists protest against it, and call it "Dictatorship", but when they do exactly the same thing then every thing becomes Halal.

Now after Iran's supreme leader passes or retires his position doesn't get passed on to his son just as when Iran's 1st supreme leader passed the government didn't get passed on to his son.

Yes, communist and socialist parties also boasts the same thing that there is no succession in their system etc. But this does not make and difference. They stay as Dictatorship.

Same is with Islamic Republic. It's very basic nature makes it only "Islamic Dictatorship" where they will impose their Islamic System even if the majority of people don't want this system, and they don't give the right to people to criticize Islam or the Islamic state, even if there is no US present there who interferes.


Do all minorities have rights? NO. Only minorities that fall within Iran's version of Islamic law have rights for example Jewish, Christian & Zoroastrian Iranians have the right to assemble, have an elected rep & can practice their own religion freely and have their own temple and churches BUT atheists, agnostics, Satanist,... DO NOT!

And why should the Atheists and other minorities should not have the right to exist in Islamic State and do Tableegh of their views to others?

Why Islamic god is so unjust that it wanted this right of freedom of expression for his messenger in Mecca, and also want this same right of Tableegh of Islam in Kafir Hindustan today, but don't want to give this right to them in his Islamic States?

god of Islamists want this right of Tableegh and practicing Islam in Kaffir Buddhist land of BURMA today, in kaffir buddhist land of China, Japan, Sri Lanka, actually all over the world, but denies other this right completely?


Today Islamists deceive the whole world by telling: "Their is NO compulsion in the Religion". But they don't tell the world that according to their own Ulama this verse has been abrogated later in 9th Hijri when Islam became strong and verses of Qatal was revealed which order to kill all the Kuffar after 4 months, except this that they convert to Islam under the force of sword.

Islamists deceive the world and don't tell the real teachings of Islam that Jizyya (tax) is only for the people of Book (i.e. Jews and Christians and Zoroastrians), while all other non believers have to be Killed (except that they convert to Islam).

Yes, the real ruling about Buddhists, Hindus, Atheists is not this that they are not allowed to practice their beliefs, but actual ruling is about killing them, except for they convert to Islam.

Surely Muslim states were not able to do it later as it was totally against humanity. Therefore Abu Hanifa gave fatwa that killing of Kuffar was only limited to the time of Prophet Muhammad and it is not for present Caliph to kill all the Kuffar. Thus Hindus and Yazidies and other minorities were able to save their life after this fatwa of Abu Hanifa.

Nevertheless, all Islamists are unanimous that Prophet killed all the Kuffar or forced them to convert to Islam during his life time. Thus we see Christians and even Jews in Arab, but we see absolutely no Kuffar today in Arabia.

If Iranian leaders blame everything wrong on the west it's because the U.S. openly budgets hundreds of millions of dollars for the overthrow of the Iranian government so you can't claim they are being paranoid!
So yes the least Iran's government can do in response to that is to blame the west for all it's problems even when it's BS!

Fair enough against US.
But unfair against the Iranian People.

How can you expect Iran to implement Freedom of Expression, Freedom of Press, Assembly,.... when the U.S. openly has a yearly budget of hundreds of millions of dollars to overthrow Iran's government. No government would implement a policy that would aid a foreign actor in it's own overthrow. It's absurd and most Iranians are smart enough to see that! At the end of the day the MAIN country responsible for the lack of most freedoms in Iran is the U.S. and NOT IRANIAN LEADERS!
As long as U.S. hostilities towards Iran persists the vast majority of Iranian will blame the U.S. for not only economic problems but also lack of various freedoms.

Freedom of expression is a fundamental right which could not be confiscated.
Islamists want this same freedom of expression for themselves in name of "Tableegh", even for exporting their Islamic Revolution to the neighbouring countries.

So, if US uses couple of millions, then Irani government also uses couple of billions in Media, which gives it almost 100% monopoly, while there is NO voice for the Iranian people who differ with Islamic regime and Wilayat-e-Faqih.

I am not saying that banning of Social Media is wrong during roits etc. , but I am asking for the right of Expression of those Iranian people in normal situations, who differ with Islamic State and want to criticize it and want to do "Tableegh" of their views. But in Iran, there exists no such mechanism. Islamists have made criticism of Wilayat-e-Faqih or Islam as a crime and they prison or kill the person for this crime.

But at the same time Islamists present their Prophet Muhammad as a MAZLOOM person who although not killed by the Kuffar of Mecca, but they tried to snatch his right to Preach his views. Nevertheless, what Islamists do today with the opposing views, it is many times worst and more tyranny than what Kuffar of Mecca did.

The bitter and only truth is, even if there was no US interference, still the nature of an Islamic Republic is this that it never gives right of freedom of expression to those people who want to criticize Islamic System and State.

As for what type of government Iran has:
Iran is an "Islamic Republic" that makes it a Theocratic Republic which means it is a Republic confined by Islamic Law!

god didn't make Iran and "Islamist Republic", but it were the people of Iran who made it in the first place. And these same people should have the right to reverse this decision if they feel it was a wrong decision and does not serve them. Snatching away of this right of the Iranian people in name of Islam is tyranny.

Republic means majority rules but that doesn't necessarily make it democratic! The Republic part of Iran's government falls under the regular government with elected officials picked by the people and they govern like any other Republic with the exception that the policies they make has to fall in line within the boundaries of Islamic law set by Iran's Supreme Leader.

When Islamic part was introduced through "Democracy" i.e. through the votes of the Iranian people, then it is only fair that these same people should have the right to dispose off this system if them want.
Why to cling to the powers even if majority of Iranians show their will against this system?

The theocratic part of Iran's government falls under the Supreme Leader whos job it is to set limits and makes sure the policies the government makes falls within the boundaries of Islamic Law within historical context. Also, because war is a life and death decision Iran's armed forces also fall under the command of Iran's supreme leader.

Some what same arguments are also presented by the Socialist Party of China, and communist party of Russia who banned Islamic laws even if the majority of people of those states were Muslims. At that time Islamists protest against it, and call it "Dictatorship", but when they do exactly the same thing then every thing becomes Halal.

Now after Iran's supreme leader passes or retires his position doesn't get passed on to his son just as when Iran's 1st supreme leader passed the government didn't get passed on to his son.

Yes, communist and socialist parties also boasts the same thing that there is no succession in their system etc. But this does not make and difference. They stay as Dictatorship.

Same is with Islamic Republic. It's very basic nature makes it only "Islamic Dictatorship" where they will impose their Islamic System even if the majority of people don't want this system, and they don't give the right to people to criticize Islam or the Islamic state, even if there is no US present there who interferes.


Do all minorities have rights? NO. Only minorities that fall within Iran's version of Islamic law have rights for example Jewish, Christian & Zoroastrian Iranians have the right to assemble, have an elected rep & can practice their own religion freely and have their own temple and churches BUT atheists, agnostics, Satanist,... DO NOT!

And why should the Atheists and other minorities should not have the right to exist in Islamic State and do Tableegh of their views to others?

Why Islamic god is so unjust that it wanted this right of freedom of expression for his messenger in Mecca, and also want this same right of Tableegh of Islam in Kafir Hindustan today, but don't want to give this right to them in his Islamic States?

god of Islamists want this right of Tableegh and practicing Islam in Kaffir Buddhist land of BURMA today, in kaffir buddhist land of China, Japan, Sri Lanka, actually all over the world, but denies other this right completely?


Today Islamists deceive the whole world by telling: "Their is NO compulsion in the Religion". But they don't tell the world that according to their own Ulama this verse has been abrogated later in 9th Hijri when Islam became strong and verses of Qatal was revealed which order to kill all the Kuffar after 4 months, except this that they convert to Islam under the force of sword.

Islamists deceive the world and don't tell the real teachings of Islam that Jizyya (tax) is only for the people of Book (i.e. Jews and Christians and Zoroastrians), while all other non believers have to be Killed (except that they convert to Islam).

Yes, the real ruling about Buddhists, Hindus, Atheists is not this that they are not allowed to practice their beliefs, but actual ruling is about killing them, except for they convert to Islam.

Surely Muslim states were not able to do it later as it was totally against humanity. Therefore Abu Hanifa gave fatwa that killing of Kuffar was only limited to the time of Prophet Muhammad and it is not for present Caliph to kill all the Kuffar. Thus Hindus and Yazidies and other minorities were able to save their life after this fatwa of Abu Hanifa.

Nevertheless, all Islamists are unanimous that Prophet killed all the Kuffar or forced them to convert to Islam during his life time. Thus we see Christians and even Jews in Arab, but we see absolutely no Kuffar today in Arabia.
 
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Shia Fiqh: Order is to kill all Idolaters and no Jizyya from them

Sunnies have the same ruling. But let me present this ruling here from the Shia Tafsir book:

https://www.al-islam.org/enlighteni...on-4-allahs-help-hunayn#surah-tawbah-verse-29

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Suran Tauba, Verse 29:
“Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the Last Day, nor do they prohibit, what Allah and His Messenger have prohibited, nor follow the religion of Truth, out of those who have been given the Book until they pay the (Jizyah) tributory tax with their hand and they remain subjected.

In these verses, in fact, Islam has assigned a series of moderate ordinances to be followed by both the Muslims and disbelievers. From the point of following a heavenly religion, ‘the People of the Book’ are resembled to Muslims, but from another point of view, they are resembled to pagans.

For this very reason, Islam does not permit that they should be killed, while it issued this permission about the idolaters who insisted on their belief, because the program of Islam has been to root out idolatry from the whole earth.

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And

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https://www.al-islam.org/enlighteni...tion-1-immunity-declared#surah-tawbah-verse-5

Surah Tauba, Verse 5:
“Then when the sacred months are drawn away, slay the polytheists wherever you find them, and seize them and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush. But if they repent and perform the prayer and pay the poor-rate, (zakāt) then leave their way free to them; verily Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.”

In this verse, the duty of Muslims towards pagans after their respite, which was four months, has been stated, where the most intensive instruction has been issued upon them. It says:

“Then when the sacred months are drawn away, slay the polytheists wherever you find them…”
Next to that, it continues saying:

“…and seize them…” in order to take them captives.

The verse, then adds that they must be put in the circle of besiege. It says:

“…and besiege them…”
After that, the verse extends the statement against them, and says:

“…and lie in wait for them in every ambush…”
This harshness of action is for the sake that Islam’s plan is to root out idolatry from the whole points of the earth, since idolatry is not a creed or religion which could be respected.
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Therefore confiscating the rights of Non Muslims of practicing their views is nothing, in fact Islamic Republic of Iran is actually going against the teaching of Islamic Sharia when it let the Atheists, Bahaies, Hindus, Buddhists to stay alive.

I wonder how could people still believe in such a religion.
 
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Since Iran is in no habit of calling international observers to cover its general elections.
No amount of insisting would be credible.



http://edition.cnn.com/2016/08/03/politics/us-sends-plane-iran-400-million-cash/index.html

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/u-s-paid-1-3-billion-to-iran-two-days-after-cash-delivery/

Do I need to do some more web search?

You'd do a better job just writing a sentence rather than posting nonsense articles.... Again all that money belonged to IRAN and it's chump changed compared to all the cash U.S. froze + decades of interest.

Plus if you divide that by the cost of each centrifuge Iran uninstalled, the enriched uranium Iran handed over, the Arak reactor Iran decommissioned,.... you'll see that the U.S. basically paid Iran with it's "own money" to uninstall various parts of it's nuclear program at "cost prices" NOTHING MORE! And there was NO financial gain for Iran here and the parts of the Nuclear program Iran lost was far more valuable than the seized assets U.S. handed back to Iran!
 
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Fair enough against US.
But unfair against the Iranian People.



Freedom of expression is a fundamental right which could not be confiscated.
Islamists want this same freedom of expression for themselves in name of "Tableegh", even for exporting their Islamic Revolution to the neighbouring countries.

So, if US uses couple of millions, then Irani government also uses couple of billions in Media, which gives it almost 100% monopoly, while there is NO voice for the Iranian people who differ with Islamic regime and Wilayat-e-Faqih.

I am not saying that banning of Social Media is wrong during roits etc. , but I am asking for the right of Expression of those Iranian people in normal situations, who differ with Islamic State and want to criticize it and want to do "Tableegh" of their views. But in Iran, there exists no such mechanism. Islamists have made criticism of Wilayat-e-Faqih or Islam as a crime and they prison or kill the person for this crime.

But at the same time Islamists present their Prophet Muhammad as a MAZLOOM person who although not killed by the Kuffar of Mecca, but they tried to snatch his right to Preach his views. Nevertheless, what Islamists do today with the opposing views, it is many times worst and more tyranny than what Kuffar of Mecca did.

The bitter and only truth is, even if there was no US interference, still the nature of an Islamic Republic is this that it never gives right of freedom of expression to those people who want to criticize Islamic System and State.



god didn't make Iran and "Islamist Republic", but it were the people of Iran who made it in the first place. And these same people should have the right to reverse this decision if they feel it was a wrong decision and does not serve them. Snatching away of this right of the Iranian people in name of Islam is tyranny.



When Islamic part was introduced through "Democracy" i.e. through the votes of the Iranian people, then it is only fair that these same people should have the right to dispose off this system if them want.
Why to cling to the powers even if majority of Iranians show their will against this system?



Some what same arguments are also presented by the Socialist Party of China, and communist party of Russia who banned Islamic laws even if the majority of people of those states were Muslims. At that time Islamists protest against it, and call it "Dictatorship", but when they do exactly the same thing then every thing becomes Halal.



Yes, communist and socialist parties also boasts the same thing that there is no succession in their system etc. But this does not make and difference. They stay as Dictatorship.

Same is with Islamic Republic. It's very basic nature makes it only "Islamic Dictatorship" where they will impose their Islamic System even if the majority of people don't want this system, and they don't give the right to people to criticize Islam or the Islamic state, even if there is no US present there who interferes.




And why should the Atheists and other minorities should not have the right to exist in Islamic State and do Tableegh of their views to others?

Why Islamic god is so unjust that it wanted this right of freedom of expression for his messenger in Mecca, and also want this same right of Tableegh of Islam in Kafir Hindustan today, but don't want to give this right to them in his Islamic States?

god of Islamists want this right of Tableegh and practicing Islam in Kaffir Buddhist land of BURMA today, in kaffir buddhist land of China, Japan, Sri Lanka, actually all over the world, but denies other this right completely?


Today Islamists deceive the whole world by telling: "Their is NO compulsion in the Religion". But they don't tell the world that according to their own Ulama this verse has been abrogated later in 9th Hijri when Islam became strong and verses of Qatal was revealed which order to kill all the Kuffar after 4 months, except this that they convert to Islam under the force of sword.

Islamists deceive the world and don't tell the real teachings of Islam that Jizyya (tax) is only for the people of Book (i.e. Jews and Christians and Zoroastrians), while all other non believers have to be Killed (except that they convert to Islam).

Yes, the real ruling about Buddhists, Hindus, Atheists is not this that they are not allowed to practice their beliefs, but actual ruling is about killing them, except for they convert to Islam.

Surely Muslim states were not able to do it later as it was totally against humanity. Therefore Abu Hanifa gave fatwa that killing of Kuffar was only limited to the time of Prophet Muhammad and it is not for present Caliph to kill all the Kuffar. Thus Hindus and Yazidies and other minorities were able to save their life after this fatwa of Abu Hanifa.

Nevertheless, all Islamists are unanimous that Prophet killed all the Kuffar or forced them to convert to Islam during his life time. Thus we see Christians and even Jews in Arab, but we see absolutely no Kuffar today in Arabia.



Fair enough against US.
But unfair against the Iranian People.



Freedom of expression is a fundamental right which could not be confiscated.
Islamists want this same freedom of expression for themselves in name of "Tableegh", even for exporting their Islamic Revolution to the neighbouring countries.

So, if US uses couple of millions, then Irani government also uses couple of billions in Media, which gives it almost 100% monopoly, while there is NO voice for the Iranian people who differ with Islamic regime and Wilayat-e-Faqih.

I am not saying that banning of Social Media is wrong during roits etc. , but I am asking for the right of Expression of those Iranian people in normal situations, who differ with Islamic State and want to criticize it and want to do "Tableegh" of their views. But in Iran, there exists no such mechanism. Islamists have made criticism of Wilayat-e-Faqih or Islam as a crime and they prison or kill the person for this crime.

But at the same time Islamists present their Prophet Muhammad as a MAZLOOM person who although not killed by the Kuffar of Mecca, but they tried to snatch his right to Preach his views. Nevertheless, what Islamists do today with the opposing views, it is many times worst and more tyranny than what Kuffar of Mecca did.

The bitter and only truth is, even if there was no US interference, still the nature of an Islamic Republic is this that it never gives right of freedom of expression to those people who want to criticize Islamic System and State.



god didn't make Iran and "Islamist Republic", but it were the people of Iran who made it in the first place. And these same people should have the right to reverse this decision if they feel it was a wrong decision and does not serve them. Snatching away of this right of the Iranian people in name of Islam is tyranny.



When Islamic part was introduced through "Democracy" i.e. through the votes of the Iranian people, then it is only fair that these same people should have the right to dispose off this system if them want.
Why to cling to the powers even if majority of Iranians show their will against this system?



Some what same arguments are also presented by the Socialist Party of China, and communist party of Russia who banned Islamic laws even if the majority of people of those states were Muslims. At that time Islamists protest against it, and call it "Dictatorship", but when they do exactly the same thing then every thing becomes Halal.



Yes, communist and socialist parties also boasts the same thing that there is no succession in their system etc. But this does not make and difference. They stay as Dictatorship.

Same is with Islamic Republic. It's very basic nature makes it only "Islamic Dictatorship" where they will impose their Islamic System even if the majority of people don't want this system, and they don't give the right to people to criticize Islam or the Islamic state, even if there is no US present there who interferes.




And why should the Atheists and other minorities should not have the right to exist in Islamic State and do Tableegh of their views to others?

Why Islamic god is so unjust that it wanted this right of freedom of expression for his messenger in Mecca, and also want this same right of Tableegh of Islam in Kafir Hindustan today, but don't want to give this right to them in his Islamic States?

god of Islamists want this right of Tableegh and practicing Islam in Kaffir Buddhist land of BURMA today, in kaffir buddhist land of China, Japan, Sri Lanka, actually all over the world, but denies other this right completely?


Today Islamists deceive the whole world by telling: "Their is NO compulsion in the Religion". But they don't tell the world that according to their own Ulama this verse has been abrogated later in 9th Hijri when Islam became strong and verses of Qatal was revealed which order to kill all the Kuffar after 4 months, except this that they convert to Islam under the force of sword.

Islamists deceive the world and don't tell the real teachings of Islam that Jizyya (tax) is only for the people of Book (i.e. Jews and Christians and Zoroastrians), while all other non believers have to be Killed (except that they convert to Islam).

Yes, the real ruling about Buddhists, Hindus, Atheists is not this that they are not allowed to practice their beliefs, but actual ruling is about killing them, except for they convert to Islam.

Surely Muslim states were not able to do it later as it was totally against humanity. Therefore Abu Hanifa gave fatwa that killing of Kuffar was only limited to the time of Prophet Muhammad and it is not for present Caliph to kill all the Kuffar. Thus Hindus and Yazidies and other minorities were able to save their life after this fatwa of Abu Hanifa.

Nevertheless, all Islamists are unanimous that Prophet killed all the Kuffar or forced them to convert to Islam during his life time. Thus we see Christians and even Jews in Arab, but we see absolutely no Kuffar today in Arabia.


Your making NONSES assumption after assumption!

1.You say vast majority of Iranian want to overthrow this government which is absurd since not even 1% of Tehran's population or Iran's population came out to support these protests NOT EVEN 1% and if anything the hard line pro government protest were much larger and the fact is most Iranians as each election has shown fall in between and they may not fall inline with the hardliners on the right but they are still 100% behind this government they come out to vote and they sure as hell don't fall inline with the uninformed idiots that were protesting and whether you wanna believe that or not that is a FACT!

2.I never claimed GOD made Iran an Islamic republic! And claiming to know what God wants or doesn't want it absurd! I personally don't believe God spends his time involving him or her self in the trivial matters of humans and to claim God wants a particular government in Iran is to claim God wanted Hitler to rule as well and God wanted various African countries to suffer as well and God wanted Japan to get Nuked! And you can't have one without the other so it's absurd!

3.It's funny how often it's people that haven't even visited Iran in the past decade or people that don't even speak Farsi that keep claiming to know what it is the vast majority of Iranians want! Or keep commenting on how restrictive Iran's government is!

4.In Iran as long as minorities like Gay's, Atheist & Agnostics keep to themselves the government doesn't go out looking for them but at the end of the day Iran is a REPUBLIC where MAJORITY RULES! If the day comes that the vast majority of Iranians believes that Gay's, Atheist & Agnostics should have the same rights as other minorities like Christians, Jews,... then they will elect reps who would bring about those changes! Iran is NOT a Democracy it is a REPUBLIC! And if your under the delusion that an MP would ever have a chance of getting elected if he or she starts ranting about rights for those minority groups then YOU ARE DELUSIONAL and you DON'T know much about Iranians!

So I suggest you stop claiming to know what it is the vast majority of Iranians want!
 
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Your making NONSES assumption after assumption!

1.You say vast majority of Iranian want to overthrow this government which is absurd since not even 1% of Tehran's population or Iran's population came out to support these protests NOT EVEN 1% and if anything the hard line pro government protest were much larger and the fact is most Iranians as each election has shown fall in between and they may not fall inline with the hardliners on the right but they are still 100% behind this government they come out to vote and they sure as hell don't fall inline with the uninformed idiots that were protesting and whether you wanna believe that or not that is a FACT!


2.I never claimed GOD made Iran an Islamic republic! And claiming to know what God wants or doesn't want it absurd! I personally don't believe God spends his time involving him or her self in the trivial matters of humans and to claim God wants a particular governmenti n Iran is to claim God wanted Hitler to rule as well and God wanted various African countries to suffer as well and God wanted Japan to get Nuked! And you can't have one without the other so it's absurd!

You have not understood my post.
I have not said that majority of Iranians at moment oppose Wilayat-e-Faqih or government etc.
No, but I am only talking about the "basic principles" of Iranian people having the right to criticize the Islamic system and having the right to leave this system if their majority wish to do so.
But these "basic principles" are absent in present Iranian system. Neither they allow the Iranian people to criticize the Wilayat system, not it allow them to come to the government, nor allow them to change this system if their majority wish it.

All this make Iranian Islamic system nothing else than "Islamic Dictatorship", where Islamic State is not ready to give those rights to the minorities which Prophet Muhammad wanted to have for himself while living under the Kuffar of Mecca i.e. the right of freedom of Expression, where he could criticize the idols of the Kuffar, and to do Tableegh of his views and ideas even if they were against the majority views of Kuffar.




3.It's funny how often it's people that haven't even visited Iran in the past decade or people that don't even speak Farsi that keep claiming to know what it is the vast majority of Iranians want! Or keep commenting on how restrictive Iran's government is!

4.In Iran as long as minorities like Gay's, Atheist & Agnostics keep to themselves the government doesn't go out looking for them but at the end of the day Iran is a REPUBLIC where MAJORITY RULES! If the day comes that the vast majority of Iranians believes that Gay's, Atheist & Agnostics should have the same rights as other minorities like Christians, Jews,... then they will elect reps who would bring about those changes! Iran is NOT a Democracy it is a REPUBLIC! And if your under the delusion that an MP would ever have a chance of getting elected if he or she starts ranting about rights for those minority groups then YOU ARE DELUSIONAL and you DON'T know much about Iranians!

So I suggest you stop claiming to know what it is the vast majority of Iranians want!

Do i really need to visit Iran in order to know what Freedom of Expression is?
Do I really need to visit Iran to know if Iranian Atheists, Bahais got the right to worship?
Do I really need to visit Iran to know how Islamic Government censors any criticism upon Wilayat system and seize the right of people to abandon it?

Please tell me where I am wrong when I am talking about these "basic principles" and basic human rights regarding present Iranian Islamic Government?

Nobody knows with certainty if majority of Iranians support the present Wilayat system, or want to change to the secular system.

Only thing that we know is this that in the past majority of Iranians voted for Islamic system. But after that the Government took away this right of voting from them regarding the system of the country.

I am demanding nothing more than the return of this right. If majority of Iranians still want Islamic system, then I have no problem with it. But if their majority want secularism, then are you going to support this right of the Iranian people to abandon the Islamic system?
 
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If Iranian leaders blame everything wrong on the west it's because the U.S. openly budgets hundreds of millions of dollars for the overthrow of the Iranian government so you can't claim they are being paranoid!
So yes the least Iran's government can do in response to that is to blame the west for all it's problems even when it's BS!

How can you expect Iran to implement Freedom of Expression, Freedom of Press, Assembly,.... when the U.S. openly has a yearly budget of hundreds of millions of dollars to overthrow Iran's government. No government would implement a policy that would aid a foreign actor in it's own overthrow. It's absurd and most Iranians are smart enough to see that! At the end of the day the MAIN country responsible for the lack of most freedoms in Iran is the U.S. and NOT IRANIAN LEADERS!
As long as U.S. hostilities towards Iran persists the vast majority of Iranian will blame the U.S. for not only economic problems but also lack of various freedoms.

As for what type of government Iran has:
Iran is an "Islamic Republic" that makes it a Theocratic Republic which means it is a Republic confined by Islamic Law!

Republic means majority rules but that doesn't necessarily make it democratic! The Republic part of Iran's government falls under the regular government with elected officials picked by the people and they govern like any other Republic with the exception that the policies they make has to fall in line within the boundaries of Islamic law set by Iran's Supreme Leader.

The theocratic part of Iran's government falls under the Supreme Leader whos job it is to set limits and makes sure the policies the government makes falls within the boundaries of Islamic Law within historical context. Also, because war is a life and death decision Iran's armed forces also fall under the command of Iran's supreme leader.

So yes Iran's supreme leader can make decisions like banning the production of Nuclear Weapons by making them anti Islamic! Declaring war or peace or set other limits but he doesn't govern or make policy and setting limits to policies isn't the same as making them and governing!

Now after Iran's supreme leader passes or retires his position doesn't get passed on to his son just as when Iran's 1st supreme leader passed the government didn't get passed on to his son.

Now I don't know what part of that is so hard for people in the west to understand but that's the type of government Iran has. Is it PERFICT? NO it is NOT! Does it need reforms? In my opinion all governments in the world do. Do all minorities have rights? NO. Only minorities that fall within Iran's version of Islamic law have rights for example Jewish, Christian & Zoroastrian Iranians have the right to assemble, have an elected rep & can practice their own religion freely and have their own temple and churches BUT atheists, agnostics, Satanist,... DO NOT!

It's funny how badly some American official claim to care about how democratic Iran's government is when all of their own main allies in the region are all monarchies whos intelligence agency overthrew Iran's 1st democracy!

Fact is the BEST thing the U.S. can do to make Iran more democratic is to remove all sanctions and just leave Iran alone! Which is something U.S. has shown incapable of doing for the past 60 years
I am sorry but to blame "outside forces" for lack of a responsive government is a cop-out. For sure IRI has been under immense pressure but so are many other countries. Even the US has to deal with "enemies" on a daily basis: narco-trafficking, rising China, nuclear N. Korea, diminishing economic power, etc (these are just as valid a threat as the ones faced by IRI). Did the US abandon it's democratic principals just because it was "fighting" a nuclear armed Soviet Union? When the US expanded the Vietnam war it was the American people's pressure that forced the government to pack-up and leave, defeated and demoralized. The US government did not blame the Soviets for the daily demonstrations in DC and other cities.
 
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تحلیل استاد حسن محدثی درباره علت تجمعات ایران در برنامه زاویه صداوسیما
@VEVAK, @skyshadow, @Kastor
If you guys want to understand what's going on, you can watch the above video.
 
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تحلیل استاد حسن محدثی درباره علت تجمعات ایران در برنامه زاویه صداوسیما
@VEVAK, @skyshadow, @Kastor
If you guys want to understand what's going on, you can watch the above video.
Thanks, but I'm no defender of this regime. I'm all for a full democracy. I just think the timing of the uprising is a big clue...I stick to my belief this uprising was not organic. It was instigated. Besides, it hurt moderates like Rouhani, the hardliners will use this to clamp down even harder now. The change in Iran better come from electing a Gorbachev type figure, in other words, a regime insider that breaks out and deals a death knell to the regime. I'm afraid an uprising will lead to chaos, the kind of chaos Iran's enemies are looking for.
 
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