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What would escalate war with Iran?

Israel is not a problem . Cos it doesn't have the strategic depth and the congestion is high there . all these things make Israel more Vulnerable against rockets and missiles . the second point is that , Israel air bases can be damaged easily cos they're in a small region and can't be defended against for example a hounded incoming missiles . And again , don't forget Israel ground forces are just trained for defending and fighting in small battlefields like their borders not such huge country like Iran and the only reason they defeated Arabs was that they could defend well and buy time to let their air force do the job .

There is a clear reason that Israel could defeat 6 Arabian classic armies in 6 days but haven't been able to defeat Hamas and Hezbollah that have been designed for Irregular guerrilla war after almost a decade or more . Its that An army like Israel is not suitable for that war and its kinda like this example . Imagine that , Israel is a powerful gun that has a huge damage , This gun can kill a lion easily by 1 shot . but , its not able to kill dozens of rats or small things by same shot . I just wanna help you to understand Israel Army hasn't been created for fighting outside it's borders and with Guerrilla groups .

The last one is that , Iran will never star a war , it just defends .

Everybody said the same things before the start of Desert Storm what you are saying NOW about Iran.
Murphy's Law says, "Anything that can go wrong will go wrong".
And against the Superpower, nation like Iran is vulnerable.
Sanctions are sinking skin deep after the STUXNET did its job to some extent and left Iranians few years back.
Lets see what happens as most options are on table.
 
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Robert Gates october 2012: " an attack would make a nuclear iran inevitable


RG is not a person in charge to make that decision, the fellow is receiving his retirement cheque every month. His statement would not hold any water, when the things turn awry for the USA.



in march 2012 James Mattis current head of powerful CENTCOM was asked by the senat, if force can stop iranian nukes he answerd a big NO

the United States has few options to stop the Iranians from building an atomic bomb.

“The best we can do is to delay them,” he said. “Only the Iranian people can stop this program.”


here is the link : www washingtontimes com/news/2012/mar/6/general-us-military-cant-stop-iran-making-nukes/#

to this day no one has contradicted them in the pentagon or even in the army !!! strange NO.?

mike mullen

martin dempsey

Gen cartwrigt

Adm Fallon

antony Zinny

Dennis Blaire

michael hayden the mega hawkist and pro Romney

lay out with the same conclusion!

none of them is president, but all are professionals who know what they are talking about

yes iran will have the bomb
 
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As for the shaking of American economy, you are delusional at best.
Let me test yr knowledge, what is the major export of the USA towards the rest of the world?

yes i delusional at best please don't make me laugh , US are on verge to collapse even without iran's help...


one recently published study shows that serious just $ 10 per barrel increase means 1 billion lost to American economy, by week !!!!!!!!!!!!! ..........

the Americans are so indebted that they can not even afford an army more than 500 000 active obama is obliged to reduce to + - 450 000 mens that means that the american army couldn't even invade and occupy even a small country the size of Iraq.

if i m dellusionnal, no no really


yes the major export is the dollar i think, but it doesn't matter when the global econmy collapse they will fallow the greek exemple ! lol

America does not care spending trillions of dollars against the enemy threat. They have done that in the past, without caring about recession like scenario.

As long as 226 nations have their FOREX reserves in USD denomintions, US does not have to worry.
For, as long as US is selling its 100 USD bill, which only costs just four cents to print, they have nothing to worry.
While the Greeks dont print their own currency. US maintains its Veto power not only in the UNO, but also at World Bank and IMF, go figure.....
 
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Everybody said the same things before the start of Desert Storm what you are saying NOW about Iran.
Murphy's Law says, "Anything that can go wrong will go wrong".
And against the Superpower, nation like Iran is vulnerable.
Sanctions are sinking skin deep after the STUXNET did its job to some extent and left Iranians few years back.
Lets see what happens as most options are on table.
Iran is Iran,Iraq is Iraq.its like saying because team X has won team Y while team Y has won team Z.so the team X will win team Z.very unprofessional.
beside that stuxnet just damaged 1000 centrifuge system.very soon the problem fixed up and now the number of them is doubled.
 
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Israel is not a problem . Cos it doesn't have the strategic depth and the congestion is high there . all these things make Israel more Vulnerable against rockets and missiles . the second point is that , Israel air bases can be damaged easily cos they're in a small region and can't be defended against for example a hounded incoming missiles . And again , don't forget Israel ground forces are just trained for defending and fighting in small battlefields like their borders not such huge country like Iran and the only reason they defeated Arabs was that they could defend well and buy time to let their air force do the job .



There is a clear reason that Israel could defeat 6 Arabian classic armies in 6 days but haven't been able to defeat Hamas and Hezbollah that have been designed for Irregular guerrilla war after almost a decade or more . Its that An army like Israel is not suitable for that war and its kinda like this example . Imagine that , Israel is a powerful gun that has a huge damage , This gun can kill a lion easily by 1 shot . but , its not able to kill dozens of rats or small things by same shot . I just wanna help you to understand Israel Army hasn't been created for fighting outside it's borders and with Guerrilla groups .

The last one is that , Iran will never start a war , it just defends .



a main reason for the defeat of 67, also and especially was that the Arabs was not prepared, do not want to go to war and israel has attackd first, but it will not happen again!
 
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America does not care spending trillions of dollars against the enemy threat. They have done that in the past, without caring about recession like scenario.

As long as 226 nations have their FOREX reserves in USD denomintions, US does not have to worry.
For, as long as US is selling its 100 USD bill, which only costs just four cents to print, they have nothing to worry.
While the Greeks dont print their own currency. US maintains its Veto power not only in the UNO, but also at World Bank and IMF, go figure.....

as I said earlier idiot

if the world economy collapses you will follow, dollars or not, in 2008 the dollars did not stop to do the big jump

In 2008 the American economy lost 600,000 jobs per month during the crisis .... in the next we will see flourish aunts, as in 29's

Currently, 40 million Americans eat with tickets (as in a third world country)
I do not think the Us people will accept all those sacrifice to please the Necons and israel
 
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America does not care spending trillions of dollars against the enemy threat. They have done that in the past, without caring about recession like scenario.

As long as 226 nations have their FOREX reserves in USD denomintions, US does not have to worry.
For, as long as US is selling its 100 USD bill, which only costs just four cents to print, they have nothing to worry.
While the Greeks dont print their own currency. US maintains its Veto power not only in the UNO, but also at World Bank and IMF, go figure.....
Mr.Obama is that you ? :lol:
 
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in march 2012 James Mattis current head of powerful CENTCOM was asked by the senat, if force can stop iranian nukes he answerd a big NO

the United States has few options to stop the Iranians from building an atomic bomb.

“The best we can do is to delay them,” he said. “Only the Iranian people can stop this program.”


here is the link : www washingtontimes com/news/2012/mar/6/general-us-military-cant-stop-iran-making-nukes/#

to this day no one has contradicted them in the pentagon or even in the army !!! strange NO.?

mike mullen

martin dempsey

Gen cartwrigt

Adm Fallon

antony Zinny

Dennis Blaire

michael hayden the mega hawkist and pro Romney

lay out with the same conclusion!

none of them is president, but all are professionals who know what they are talking about

yes iran will have the bomb

POTUS is the one who has to decide and NOTthese dime a dozen souls that you enlisted.

Obama has already issued the strongest U.S. threat against Iran to date, declaring that the United States will not tolerate an Iranian nuclear weapon and ruling out a policy of containment. He has vowed to use “all options” if need be

Read the book: IRAN AND THE BOMB...

A nuclear-armed Iran would not make the Middle East more secure, argues Colin Kahl; it would yield more terrorism and pose a risk of a nuclear exchange.

The high cost of war with Iran has been frequently discussed. But what of the price of living with an Iranian bomb?
 
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as I said earlier idiot

if the world economy collapses you will follow, dollars or not, in 2008 the dollars did not stop to do the big jump

In 2008 the American economy lost 600,000 jobs per month during the crisis .... in the next we will see flourish aunts, as in 29's

Currently, 40 million Americans eat with tickets (as in a third world country)
I do not think the Us people will accept all those sacrifice to please the Necons and israel

France and Pakistan are in much deeper doo doo then the US. I love how people who are failures themselves give others advice. And any attack on Iran will have GCC support and possibly Turkey. All are strategic rivals. So much for your borthrhood which seems limited to south Asian mentality.
 
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POTUS is the one who has to decide and NOTthese dime a dozen souls that you enlisted.



Read the book: IRAN AND THE BOMB...


idiot in jun 2012

khlon CALN you cite, has himself warnd obama and israel in June 2012.

He cited three conditions before any strike.

1 an international legitimacy ( UN security concil )

2 the formation of an international coalition to help the united states to manage the consequences.

3 a reasonable expectation that a strike may delay the program for a long time.


he ends by saying clearly that if the united states can not fulfill these conditions, usa inevitablemnt have the choice between accepting a nuclear Iran, or invade and occupy the country ......

caln also said that iran is a rational countrien wich will not use nuclear weapons !

khal is not good example for you lol
 
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as I said earlier idiot

if the world economy collapses you will follow, dollars or not, in 2008 the dollars did not stop to do the big jump

In 2008 the American economy lost 600,000 jobs per month during the crisis .... in the next we will see flourish aunts, as in 29's

Currently, 40 million Americans eat with tickets (as in a third world country)
I do not think the Us people will accept all those sacrifice to please the Necons and israel

If the US has decided to go to war, IT WILL, as in the past, and spending trillions. Period.
Who will bell this cat?
Israel has done in the past a la Osirak, and will do so in this case too.
Looking at the past actions, you can predict the future.
There is already defensive activities in motion in Israel like underground bunkers, gas masks and what not. Public has been coached to be ready for a month long war.
Its on the horizon....Because, Israel is a one bomb country, and hence, would not like to live with a neighbour who swears by Allah to annihilate Isarel. Nobody is going to trust mullahcracy in Iran, an Axis of Evil, the term coined by former POTUS GW Bush.
 
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POTUS is the one who has to decide and NOTthese dime a dozen souls that you enlisted.



Read the book: IRAN AND THE BOMB...


the president can say that will prevent the earth from turning it not going to change the reality!

george bush has said repeatedly, "WE WILL NOT tolerate NUCLEAR WEAPON IN NORTH KOREA"

and also "icts

he did absolutely nothing even worse when ..... in 2010 the united states were shocked to learn that korea before built a large modern centrifuges installed in 2000, under the noses of American satellites that have seen nothing!
korea has even confessed to three more secret sites still unlocated today!

when the president is preparing for war he takes advice from its advisors ... trigger a war that reaches no goal, even Bush has not done

small example:


George W. Bush's administration pondered an attack on Iran's nuclear facilities and ultimately rejected it, says former CIA and NSA chief Gen. Michael Hayden. He and others concluded that an attack on Iran's nuke factories "would guarantee that which we are trying to prevent—an Iran that will spare nothing to build a nuclear weapon and that would build it in secret," Hayden said, according to Foreign Policy. The same rationale holds true today, he warned: Go with diplomacy and back channels or risk pushing Tehran into speeding things up.

when such comments are from michael hayden an hawkist, it is really disturbing !!!!

NO ?:bounce:

If the US has decided to go to war, IT WILL, as in the past, and spending trillions. Period.
Who will bell this cat?
Israel has done in the past a la Osirak, and will do so in this case too.
Looking at the past actions, you can predict the future.
There is already defensive activities in motion in Israel like underground bunkers, gas masks and what not. Public has been coached to be ready for a month long war.
Its on the horizon....Because, Israel is a one bomb country, and hence, would not like to live with a neighbour who swears by Allah to annihilate Isarel. Nobody is going to trust mullahcracy in Iran, an Axis of Evil, the term coined by former POTUS GW Bush.

periode my penis lol

US decide to go to war or on mars it change nothing .....they get their asse kicked by vietnam a 15 millions people country in 60's so i say it again my penis.....

i would really see the face of the president which announces on the television, we are in crisis, but we will trigger a war against a country of 80 million inhabitants !!!!!

lol
 
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If the US has decided to go to war, IT WILL, as in the past, and spending trillions. Period.
Who will bell this cat?
Israel has done in the past a la Osirak, and will do so in this case too.
Looking at the past actions, you can predict the future.
There is already defensive activities in motion in Israel like underground bunkers, gas masks and what not. Public has been coached to be ready for a month long war.
Its on the horizon....Because, Israel is a one bomb country, and hence, would not like to live with a neighbour who swears by Allah to annihilate Isarel. Nobody is going to trust mullahcracy in Iran, an Axis of Evil, the term coined by former POTUS GW Bush.
Very true words. Some poor souls really think U.S/Israel is afraid of Iran.

If Iran reaches the threshold to make a bomb, they won't blink to drop the bunker busters to destroy nuclear facilities. And if that is not enough, without hesitating they will give the signal of attack for ground invasion. Nuclear Iran is not acceptable in this world.. by nobody
 
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idiot in jun 2012

khlon CALN you cite, has himself warnd obama and israel in June 2012.

He cited three conditions before any strike.

1 an international legitimacy ( UN security concil )

2 the formation of an international coalition to help the united states to manage the consequences.

3 a reasonable expectation that a strike may delay the program for a long time.


he ends by saying clearly that if the united states can not fulfill these conditions, usa inevitablemnt have the choice between accepting a nuclear Iran, or invade and occupy the country ......

caln also said that iran is a rational countrien wich will not use nuclear weapons !

khal is not good example for you lol

The name is Colin H Kahl.

Go and read the book and come back when you know how to write his name.....

Dr. Colin H Kahl

During his tenure, he played a lead role in: designing and overseeing the responsible drawdown and transition strategy in Iraq; shaping the Pentagon’s efforts to counter Iran’s nuclear weapons ambitions and destabilizing activities; promoting unprecedented defense cooperation with Israel; building a Regional Security Architecture in the Gulf; and crafting the Department’s response to the Arab Awakening. In June 2011, Dr. Kahl was awarded the Secretary of Defense Medal for Outstanding Public Service by Secretary Robert Gates.

Your lies exposed in just one paragraph.
LOL
 
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Will India help to facilitate a ground offensive if U.S asks?
 
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