What script does Languages in Pakistan use?

[911]

Sindhis tend to have the closest culture to India in Pakistan - Punjabis share similarities to Indian Punjabis too - but thats about it. Brahui people in Thar and Balochista

In India language travel from state to state. Punjabi is similar to Haryanvi, Haryanvi is similar to Rajasthani so on, but the end products are more different.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

Research it your self, they were one of the Israeli tribes that migrated to around Afghanistan and KPK. Theyre Pakhtunwali law, genetics and ect... all correlates with Juadism and Israelites.

There was even a major Israeli documentary about it.

In India language travel from state to state. Punjabi is similar to Haryanvi, Haryanvi is similar to Rajasthani so on, but the end products are more different.

All cultures are very similiar here in Pakistan. Only isolated areas have distinct cultures.

 

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Research it your self, they were one of the Israeli tribes that migrated to around Afghanistan and KPK. Theyre Pakhtunwali law, genetics and ect... all correlates with Juadism and Israelites.

There was even a major Israeli documentary about it.


All cultures are very similiar here in Pakistan. Only isolated areas have distinct cultures.

So will the Pathans perform Aliyah then?

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

So will the Pathans perform Aliyah then?

Pashtuns - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And no, Pashtuns are rock-hard Muslims now.

 

[dadeechi]

Pashtuns - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Interesting. If we take this along with the below thread then we can summarize that Pakistan is a Jewish state.

Are Pashtuns in majority?

Do Pashtuns follow Judaism or Islam?

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

Interesting. If we take this along with the below thread then we can summarize that Pakistan is a Jewish state.

Are Pashtuns in majority?

Do Pashtuns follow Judaism or Islam?

Thats a no-brainer question; Pashtuns follow Islam - and hold dear; Islam above all; even though they follow Jewish laws.

Like the other lost tribes of Israel - they converted to the local religions (Buddhism for Pashtuns) but still retained most of their culture.

Bottom line; Juadism is a religion not a ethnicity.

 

[dadeechi]

Thats a no-brainer question; Pashtuns follow Islam - and hold dear; Islam above all; even though they follow Jewish laws.

Like the other lost tribes of Israel - they converted to the local religions (Buddhism for Pashtuns) but still retained most of their culture.

Bottom line; Juadism is a religion not a ethnicity.

So if I understand correctly, Pashtuns converted from Judaism=>Buddhism=>Islam but racially speaking they are Arabs?

Could you elaborate on the laws. How different (Major ones) are Pashtun laws from Islamic laws that other Pakistanis may be following?

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

So if I understand correctly, Pashtuns converted from Judaism=>Buddhism=>Islam but racially speaking they are Arabs?

Could you elaborate on the laws. How different (Major ones) are Pashtun laws from Islamic laws that other Pakistanis may be following?

Racially speaking they are semetic people - descendants of ancient Israelites who migrated to the East.

I dont know much about Pashtun code of honour - but it is really harsh.

For example, to accuse someone of adultery you need 4 witnesses in Islam and even if you are accused you can be forgiven if you repent. In Pashtun law you dont need evidence and the punishment is stoned to death. Pashtun law has been interpreted to be Islamic law by many Westerners - the common misconception that Shariah law is very harsh, stems from the interpretation of Pashtun law being Islamic law. Even the Islamic laws in Pakistan are all heavily influenced by Pashtun law.

Let me quote this from wikipedia.

Pashtunwali - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The native Pashtun tribes, often described as fiercely independent people,[9] have inhabited the Pashtunistan region (eastern Afghanistan and north western Pakistan) since at least the 1st millennium BC.[10][11][12] During that period, much of their mountainous territory has remained outside government rule or control. This is perhaps the main reason why indigenous Pashtuns still follow Pashtunwali, which is a basic common law of the land or "code of life".

"Although it pre-dates Islam the two have become inseparable for many Pashtuns, even though in practice Pashtunwali codes often contradict the Qur’an. Such is the case with the Pashtun practice of dividing inheritances equally among sons, even though the Quran clearly states that women are to receive a share."[13][not in citation given]

Pashtunwali rules are accepted in Afghanistan and Pakistan (mainly in and around the Pashtunistan region), and also in some Pashtun communities around the world. Some non-Pashtun Afghans and others have also adopted its ideology or practices for their own benefit. Conversely, many urbanized Pashtuns tend to ignore the rules of Pashtunwali. Passed on from generation to generation, Pashtunwali guides both individual and communal conduct. Practiced by the majority of Pashtuns, it helps to promote Pashtunization.[4]

Ideal Pukhtun behaviour approximates the features Pukhtunwali, the code of the Pukhtuns, which includes the following traditional features: courage (tora), revenge (badal), hospitality (melmestia), generosity to a defeated...[14]

— Maliha Zulfacar, 1999
Pashtuns embrace an ancient traditional, spiritual, and communal identity tied to a set of moral codes and rules of behaviour, as well as to a record of history spanning some seventeen hundred years.[15]

Pashtunwali promotes self-respect, independence, justice, hospitality, love, forgiveness, revenge and tolerance toward all (especially to strangers or guests).[16] It is considered to be the personal responsibility of every Pashtun to discover and rediscover Pashtunwali's essence and meaning.

It is the way of the Pathans. We have melmestia, being a good host, nanawatai, giving asylum, and badal, vengeance. Pashtuns live by these things.[17]

— Abdur, A character in Morgen's War
The Pathan tribes are always engaged in private or public war. Every man is a warrior, a politician and a theologian. Every large house is a real feudal fortress....Every family cultivates its vendetta; every clan, its feud.... Nothing is ever forgotten and very few debts are left unpaid.
Winston Churchill (My Early Life - Chapter 11: The Mahmund Valley)

 

[dadeechi]

Pashtunwali promotes self-respect, independence, justice, hospitality, love, forgiveness, revenge and tolerance toward all (especially to strangers or guests).[16] It is considered to be the personal responsibility of every Pashtun to discover and rediscover Pashtunwali's essence and meaning.

It is the way of the Pathans. We have melmestia, being a good host, nanawatai, giving asylum, and badal, vengeance. Pashtuns live by these things.[17]

I have few Pathan friends here in Hyderabad (deccan) and completely agree with the above.

Racially speaking they are semetic people - descendants of ancient Israelites who migrated to the East.

Aren't Egyptian Pharaohs not semetic? Were they Caucasian or Black? Is Semetic race a mixed race born out of mingling of Caucasians or Blacks.

 

[krash]

All of these words are Persian as well excluding adverb "ka". Vocabulary is not the only thing in language, grammar and construction of sentence are the main thing. And almost all the grammar of anthem is Persian i.e. without use of adverbs (exception is "ka")

Correct me if I'm wrong but "Ka" is not an adverb nor were there any verbs used in the anthem to allow the usage of adverbs and that adverbs need not be used after a verb.......or you just made a lot of other languages Persian too e.g. English. The closest grammatical term for "Ka" would be the possessive apostrophe S or the possessive form of the pronoun "He" i.e. "His".

Are there other instances of denoting possession in the anthem, as opposed to "Ka"? Yes; "e". Which also happens to be a legitimately Urdu way of denoting possession, imported from Persian. "Nizam e Pak Sarzameen", would have been just as Urdu-ic as is "Pak Sarzameen Ka Nizaam"....

Anyway, let's make it really simple. "Tu Nishan e Azm e Alishaan", what is not Urdu about this verse? Or the next verse; "Arz e Pakistan"? Or in the combination of the two as a stanza?

ps: The question was whether the words were Urdu or not, not if they were Persian or not.

 

[Sugarcane]

Correct me if I'm wrong but "Ka" is not an adverb nor were there any verbs used in the anthem to allow the usage of adverbs and that adverbs need not be used after a verb.......or you just made a lot of other languages Persian too e.g. English. The closest grammatical term for "Ka" would be the possessive apostrophe S or the possessive form of the pronoun "He" i.e. "His".

Are there other instances of denoting possession in the anthem, as opposed to "Ka"? Yes; "e". Which also happens to be a legitimately Urdu way of denoting possession, imported from Persian. "Nizam e Pak Sarzameen", would have been just as Urdu-ic as is "Pak Sarzameen Ka Nizaam"....

Anyway, let's make it really simple. "Tu Nishan e Azm e Alishaan", what is not Urdu about this verse? Or the next verse; "Arz e Pakistan"? Or in the combination of the two as a stanza?

My mistake that's not called adverb, but whatever these words "(ka/kay/ki/raha/rahi/rahay/hay" etc.) are called are fundamental part of construction of sentences in Urdu. While "e" is used in Persian for this purpose. The myth of anthem being in Urdu can be busted easily by going on road and finding out how many people are able to explain the whole anthem accurately which should be quite easy considering everyone in Pakistan can understand Urdu.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

I have few Pathan friends here in Hyderabad (deccan) and completely agree with the above.



Aren't Egyptian Pharaohs not semetic? Were they Caucasian or Black? Is Semetic race a mixed race born out of mingling of Caucasians or Blacks.

Semitic people is a biblical term to describe people of 'Abraham' and his 'ancestors' or 'descendants'; similiar to Hametic or Japhetic people - they all share their routes to the fertile crescent.

Egyptians arent semetic; but are uniquely their own ethnic race; with roots probably from both Africa and the Fertile crescent. Egyptians enslaved semetic (Israelite) people around 1200-1400 BC - but were freed under Moses leading to the first exodus - they eventually colonized Judea and founded the religion of Judaism.

In around 722 BC - the Neo-Assyrian Empire invaded and conquered Israel and deported 10 of the 12 tribes of Israel. Leading to a outward migration.

Israel funded a genetic study in 2010 and found that Pashtuns have the closest connection than any other ethnicity which claims descent from Israel. There are Pashtun tribes with names that have links to Israel such as the Yusufzai which translates to 'Sons of Joseph'.

Here are ancient Hellenistic accounts about Moses.
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35. An Egyptian priest named Moses, who possessed a portion of the country called the Lower Egypt, being dissatisfied with the established institutions there, left it and came to Judaea with a large body of people who worshipped the Divinity. He declared and taught that the Egyptians and Africans entertained erroneous sentiments, in representing the Divinity under the likeness of wild beasts and cattle of the field; that the Greeks also were in error in making images of their gods after the human form. For God [said he] may be this one thing which encompasses us all, land and sea, which we call heaven, or the universe, or the nature of things....

36. By such doctrine Moses persuaded a large body of right-minded persons to accompany him to the place where Jerusalem now stands.... "



Here is an ancient drawing of a Libyan, African, Syrian and an Egyptian.

Semetic Languages - many are extinct now.

My mistake that's not called adverb, but whatever these words "(ka/kay/ki/raha/rahi/rahay/hay" etc.) are called are fundamental part of construction of sentences in Urdu. While "e" is used in Persian for this purpose. The myth of anthem being in Urdu can be busted easily by going on road and finding out how many people are able to explain the whole anthem accurately which should be quite easy considering everyone in Pakistan can understand Urdu.

Your pretty wrong there, people can only understand BASIC Urdu and not pure Urdu. Pure Urdu is heavily Persianized while Hindi draws portions of it from Sanskript. Try understanding Hindi news.

 

[dadeechi]

Semitic people is a biblical term to describe people of 'Abraham' and his 'ancestors' or 'descendants'; similiar to Hametic or Japhetic people - they all share their routes to the fertile crescent.

Egyptians arent semetic; but are uniquely their own ethnic race; with roots probably from both Africa and the Fertile crescent. Egyptians enslaved semetic (Israelite) people around 1200-1400 BC - but were freed under Moses leading to the first exodus - they eventually colonized Judea and founded the religion of Judaism.

In around 722 BC - the Neo-Assyrian Empire invaded and conquered Israel and deported 10 of the 12 tribes of Israel. Leading to a outward migration.

Israel funded a genetic study in 2010 and found that Pashtuns have the closest connection than any other ethnicity which claims descent from Israel. There are Pashtun tribes with names that have links to Israel such as the Yusufzai which translates to 'Sons of Joseph'.

Here are ancient Hellenistic accounts about Moses.
"
35. An Egyptian priest named Moses, who possessed a portion of the country called the Lower Egypt, being dissatisfied with the established institutions there, left it and came to Judaea with a large body of people who worshipped the Divinity. He declared and taught that the Egyptians and Africans entertained erroneous sentiments, in representing the Divinity under the likeness of wild beasts and cattle of the field; that the Greeks also were in error in making images of their gods after the human form. For God [said he] may be this one thing which encompasses us all, land and sea, which we call heaven, or the universe, or the nature of things....

36. By such doctrine Moses persuaded a large body of right-minded persons to accompany him to the place where Jerusalem now stands.... "



Here is an ancient drawing of a Libyan, African, Syrian and an Egyptian.

Semetic Languages - many are extinct now.

Thanks for the detailed post. So are Pashtuns allowed to immigrate to Israel like other jewish people around the world?