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Govt allocates Rs271 billion for subsidies
Last Updated On 12 June,2019 05:47 pm
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Rs25 billion as subsidy would be given to K-Electric consumers.
ISLAMABAD (Dunya News) - The Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) government has allocated Rs271.5 billion as subsidies for FY2019-20.

Government would provide 6% more subsidies as compared to FY2018-19 in the fields of energy, agriculture and industries.

Lifeline consumers would get a subsidy of Rs162 billion in electricity charges while a subsidy of Rs25 billion would be given to K-Electric consumers.

The federal government would provide Rs24 billion to industries in context of LNG, while Rs 8 billion would be given as subsidy on tube wells in Balochistan and Rs 8 billion subsidy on wheat for Gilgit Baltistan.

In FY19, the government initially estimated disbursement of Rs174.74 billion in subsidy, but later the projection was raised to Rs254.99 billion.

https://dunyanews.tv/en/Business/495638-Govt-allocates-Rs271billion-for-subsidies

If you still cant make an earning despite being subsidized...then imagine when not subsidized, what will the general public look like?

Then you must have an idea of just how difficult it is to actually change a culture for the better, such as paying taxes.
Yes, seems like danda helps :coffee:
 
Tax on vehicles has been raised extremely high, there is a token tax, an advance tax, an income tax and a professional tax. two of those are being charged "per seat".

wtf is this? looks like PTI is completely out of its mind.

Per seat tax as if all of the people who own cares are running rent a car or careem businesses. IK was talking about raising the standard of living, looks like he is actively trying to destroy the middle class, and push them down into lower class. instead of raising standard of living he is making sure that people can never afford cars, ACs, coolers, Firdges/Freezers, heaters and geysers.


I think its an excellent move. Pakistanis are tax cheaters. Need to make them pay one way ot another.
 
Pakistan - Subsidies and other transfers
Subsidies and other transfers (current LCU)
The value for Subsidies and other transfers (current LCU) in Pakistan was 798,661,000,000 as of 2011. As the graph below shows, over the past 14 years this indicator reached a maximum value of 798,661,000,000 in 2011 and a minimum value of 9,208,001,000 in 1998.

Definition: Subsidies, grants, and other social benefits include all unrequited, nonrepayable transfers on current account to private and public enterprises; grants to foreign governments, international organizations, and other government units; and social security, social assistance benefits, and employer social benefits in cash and in kind.

Source: International Monetary Fund, Government Finance Statistics Yearbook and data files.




Year Value
1997 9,778,000,000
1998 9,208,001,000
1999 11,835,000,000
2000 21,194,000,000
2001 200,127,000,000
2002 238,573,000,000
2003 348,973,000,000
2004 207,319,000,000
2005 287,896,000,000
2006 325,282,000,000
2007 434,220,000,000
2008 521,730,000,000
2009 459,394,000,000
2010 662,246,000,000
2011 798,661,000,000


Subsidies and other transfers (% of expense)
Subsidies and other transfers (% of expense) in Pakistan was 24.81 as of 2011. Its highest value over the past 14 years was 42.53 in 2003, while its lowest value was 1.79 in 1998.

Definition: Subsidies, grants, and other social benefits include all unrequited, nonrepayable transfers on current account to private and public enterprises; grants to foreign governments, international organizations, and other government units; and social security, social assistance benefits, and employer social benefits in cash and in kind.

Source: International Monetary Fund, Government Finance Statistics Yearbook and data files.

You can see the graphs here: https://www.indexmundi.com/facts/pakistan/subsidies-and-other-transfers
 
Of course. Look at how everyone is afraid of the IRS due to the danda they hold. FBR should be like that too.
Exactly! But need to clean up a bit of the FBR too...SOME are fishy! I had a relative in the customs dept and she worked her way up...She was like the whole system ko keera laga wa hai...she said those who are "imaandaar" had tough time working! She retired and is like touba touba!

SUBSIDIES should be cancelled only one allowed should be support for farming
People are not even aware that their goods are subsidized on the state's expense..the least they can do is pay back in tax!
 
I know this is an old article:

Subsidy a bad economic policy most of the time

By Jazib Nelson
Published: March 5, 2018

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Liquefied petroleum gas PHOTO: REUTERS

ISLAMABAD: Not many concepts of economics are popular with the people of Pakistan. However, subsidies will be on the list of almost every Pakistani that tells how the government can promote economic welfare.

Consumers want the government to give subsidies on a wide range of products and services. Any move to remove or reduce subsidy is viciously overplayed in the mainstream media.

People’s fascination with subsidies is based on the welfare concept of state which is endorsed by many economists of Pakistan. According to this viewpoint, the state can reduce poverty and inequality by granting subsidies.

Along with tax rebates, subsidies have become a potent political tool by which government tries to woo voters. In some cases, benefits of the subsidy are exclusively given to economic agents belonging to a particular political constituency.

Earlier this year, the government was criticised by the opposition for giving fertiliser subsidy only to farmers within its own political constituencies.

Despite its popular appeal, people’s economic understanding of subsidies is limited at best.

Subsidy is a bad economic policy most of the time. Its negative long-term impact far outstrips any temporary benefits associated with it. The purpose of this article is to dispel common myths about the subsidies both from the consumer and producer’s viewpoint.

Increase in economic inequality

It is believed that subsidies should be given on essential commodities. These commodities include wheat, electricity and fuel among others.

Currently, the government is subsidising these products through different schemes. For example, we have state-run utility stores. The electricity and gas units that we consume are also subsidised.

In the past, the government has run programmes like Sasti Roti. The Metro Bus service in major cities of Punjab is another example of a subsidised programme.

Such types of subsidies are called untargeted subsidies. These directly contribute to increase in inequality. Even an individual who can easily afford market prices is also enjoying the benefits of cheap rates.

Under the Sasti Roti programme of the Punjab government in 2008, the price of bread was restricted to Rs2 per piece. All individuals were paying the same price whether those living below the poverty line or those having earnings well above that threshold.

Why should an individual with an income of Rs20,000 per month purchase bread at Rs2 when he could easily afford the market rate of Rs4 in 2008?

Similarly, why should big consumers of electricity have to pay for their high consumption at low rates? These schemes are like a tax rebate for the high and middle-income individuals.

There are a lot of such individuals in Pakistan who actually belong to these income classes. Since they spend more on subsidised products and services, their absolute advantages are far more than those who deserve lower rates. Resultantly, subsidised schemes tend to increase absolute inequality in the economy.

Subsidised projects fall prey to financial difficulties quite often which place a serious burden on public expenditure. The Punjab government is still paying millions to cover the cost of loans acquired for financing these schemes.

In order to make room for loan repayments, the government has to compromise spending on areas that can reduce inequality in the long run like education and health.

Subsidies lead to wastage of resources

In Pakistan, subsidies are not limited to individual consumers alone. Different industries are also enjoying subsidies. It is believed that subsidised industrial inputs will encourage domestic industries to produce more and hence increase economic growth.

Unfortunately, even after decades and trillions of rupees in subsidies for major industries of Pakistan, these industries have failed to record sustained growth.

Subsidised industrial inputs distort the price mechanism. This promotes perverse economic decision-making on the part of economic agents which cannot be sustained in the long run.

Take the case of flour industry. Wheat is currently available at a subsidised rate in Pakistan. This encourages would-be millers to set up plants in order to book profits even if production capacity of the existing plants is sufficient to meet domestic demand.

As these new millers don’t have much knowledge of the business, they are competed out of the industry. The resources which are wasted due to wrong market signals provided by the subsidies could have been employed in some other business that has room for investment and addition to the capacity.

Uncompetitive exporters

The government also gives subsidies to exporters with the aim of increasing exports. But the protection accorded by the subsidies to export industries has rendered them uncompetitive in comparison to other countries.

Whenever subsidies are removed, export industries crumble in the face of international competition. However, there are also other factors behind the low competitiveness of Pakistani export industries.

The practice of not disbursing the due subsidy by the government further aggravates the situation. The burden of clearing these subsidies is so much that the government finds it difficult to clear them on a regular basis.

As a way forward, it is recommended that the government should shun the practice of untargeted subsidies. Apart from a few countries, the practice has mostly been stopped in the world.

As a general rule, a thorough study must be conducted before subsidy is provided for any industry.

The writer is a researcher and works in the development sector of Gilgit

Published in The Express Tribune, March 5th, 2018.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1651211/2-subsidy-bad-economic-policy-time/

Key points:

Subsidised projects fall prey to financial difficulties quite often which place a serious burden on public expenditure. The Punjab government is still paying millions to cover the cost of loans acquired for financing these schemes.

In order to make room for loan repayments, the government has to compromise spending on areas that can reduce inequality in the long run like education and health.


Unfortunately, even after decades and trillions of rupees in subsidies for major industries of Pakistan, these industries have failed to record sustained growth.

Subsidised industrial inputs distort the price mechanism. This promotes perverse economic decision-making on the part of economic agents which cannot be sustained in the long run.
 
This is very good...Rich and elite class should pay more and more taxes. Middle class have voted for PTI they should help the government to raise more taxes. Very happy to see finally people have to pay more and more taxes..

Do you think the elite drive Swift, Ciaz, City, Civic, Xli, Gli etc.?

That MS paint job looks very official. Lets assume it is - should taxi/bus/mini bus drivers not pay tax?

It costs Rs15,000 to hire a Hiace van from our village to Islamabad airport. During peak season some of these guys are doing two trips a day. Why shouldn't they pay tax?

Everyone should pay taxes, JUSTIFIED taxes.

If we take your example of the Hiace rental, don't you think the Hiace owner will raise the free from Rs. 15k to cover the cost of taxation that he/she will have to pay? Wouldn't this in turn mean that people of your village paying more for the same transport?
 
Do you think the elite drive Swift, Ciaz, City, Civic, Xli, Gli etc.?
People driving cars are middle class and they have voted for PTI..They should abide and help government to raise more taxes..They know they have to pay more taxes because of corruption by previous parties..
 
Avg Petroleum prices,

Pakistan 0.64$
India 1.03$
China 1.07$
US 0.71$
Oil rich KSA 0.57$

Why is it so cheap in Pakistan? At least bring it to Indian level for residential consumers. This will help generate $ for country, help reduce petrol imports, help environment, help support public transport.
 
People driving cars are middle class and they have voted for PTI..They should abide and help government to raise more taxes..They know they have to pay more taxes because of corruption by previous parties..

I think it should be obvious by now who brought PTI into power. It was not the elite, it wasn't the middle class and it sure wasn't the lower class.

And we are NOT being made to pay more taxes because of any corruption; we are being overburdened because of nonsense policies of the incumbent Government. The USD was at 105, GDP was 5.6 and was forecast to grow higher the next year, IMF program had successfully concluded for the first time, CPEC was booming, War on Terror had been won, Afghanistan was getting stable, Terms with the US were starting to get better, Petrol was much cheaper, electricity and gas were much cheaper, cars were much cheaper, taxes were much lower and yet all external 3rd party ratings for Pakistan were showing positive including IMF, World Bank and Fitch/Moody etc.

and then came Tabdeeli and F***** it all up!
 
Avg Petroleum prices,

Pakistan 0.64$
India 1.03$
China 1.07$
US 0.71$
Oil rich KSA 0.57$

Why is it so cheap in Pakistan? At least bring it to Indian level for residential consumers. This will help generate $ for country, help reduce petrol imports, help environment, help support public transport.
I totally agree with this economic logic...Kindly bring car prices also to an Indian level..
 
And we are NOT being made to pay more taxes because of any corruption; we are being overburdened because of nonsense policies of the incumbent Government. The USD was at 105, GDP was 5.6 and was forecast to grow higher the next year, IMF program had successfully concluded for the first time, CPEC was booming, War on Terror had been won, Afghanistan was getting stable, Terms with the US were starting to get better, Petrol was much cheaper, electricity and gas were much cheaper, cars were much cheaper, taxes were much lower and yet all external 3rd party ratings for Pakistan were showing positive including IMF, World Bank and Fitch/Moody etc.
SO if everything was so danddy...how did it go south in less than 1 yr?

You preferred living in an inflated illusion? I mean these kind of changes dont even happen over a period of 1 yr! It takes decades of rotting to hit rock bottom like this! Since the illusion is lifted, you have to face reality and yes reality is never lovely!
 
I think it should be obvious by now who brought PTI into power. It was not the elite, it wasn't the middle class and it sure wasn't the lower class.

And we are NOT being made to pay more taxes because of any corruption; we are being overburdened because of nonsense policies of the incumbent Government. The USD was at 105, GDP was 5.6 and was forecast to grow higher the next year, IMF program had successfully concluded for the first time, CPEC was booming, War on Terror had been won, Afghanistan was getting stable, Terms with the US were starting to get better, Petrol was much cheaper, electricity and gas were much cheaper, cars were much cheaper, taxes were much lower and yet all external 3rd party ratings for Pakistan were showing positive including IMF, World Bank and Fitch/Moody etc.

and then came Tabdeeli and F***** it all up!
that was all naqli and jail progress ..Now is the reality
 

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