U.S. Will Not Let Iran Buy Arms When U.N. Embargo Ends: Pompeo

[Surenas]

Israeli leadership tied the army's hands, every commander in the army knows that.

That is not what the Winograd Commission concluded after the war, which was issued by the Israeli government after the war was finished, in order to investigate the disastrous outcome of it.

Israel performed badly in 2006, failing to advance more than a couple of kilometres into Lebanese territory. See the battles for Bint Jbeil and Maroun al-Ras, where a numerically superior Israeli force struggled against well-entrenched Hezbollah fighters.

We still won as far as numbers speak.

You do not win wars by numbers. You can ask general Westmoreland.

 

[Kastor]

Imagine believing that casualties determines who wins and loses a war.

They've been losing the PR war since the middle ages.

 

[Beny Karachun]

Imagine believing that casualties determines who wins and loses a war.

Imagine thinking Hezbollah won with Lebanon crippled and the organization suffering massive losses, repelled from south Lebanon and acheving a very long lasting peace.

Why you buy 100 F-35 instead of 5000 missiles?

What makes you think we didn't buy both?
Also we only ordered 50 F-35s so far.

 

[Armchair]

A small guerilla force of 15000 fought Israel to a standstill. Doubt they can repeat that result though.

 

[Sineva]

Israeli leadership tied the army's hands, every commander in the army knows that.

WOW....I never ever thought I`d ever hear a zionist using the old ww1 era "Dolchstoßlegende" ie "We were stabbed in the back by traitors back on the home front,WE WERE NEVER DEFEATED MILITARILY!!" myth,to try and explain the repeated failures of the mighty idf to achieve any of its military aims and objectives in lebanon in 2006.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/06/Stab-in-the-back_postcard.jpg
Just out of curiosity tho,how exactly did the israeli leadership "tie the hands" of the idf?,because in all honesty I saw only the exact opposite.

We still won as far as numbers speak.

Oh...,Do you mean like the way the us "won" in vietnam?
Tho there were many in the aftermath of the defeat who also tried to claim that the us government "tied their hands",and that if that hadnt happened then surely america would`ve won,funny that eh?.

 

[Hack-Hook]

A small guerilla force of 15000 fought Israel to a standstill. Doubt they can repeat that result though.

15000 ? lets talk about more like 1500 to 2000

 

[Beny Karachun]

WOW....I never ever thought I`d ever hear a zionist using the old ww1 era "Dolchstoßlegende" ie "We were stabbed in the back by traitors back on the home front,WE WERE NEVER DEFEATED MILITARILY!!" myth,to try and explain the repeated failures of the mighty idf to achieve any of its military aims and objectives in lebanon in 2006.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/06/Stab-in-the-back_postcard.jpg
Just out of curiosity tho,how exactly did the israeli leadership "tie the hands" of the idf?,because in all honesty I saw only the exact opposite

Lmao this retard is coping so bad, yea we had failures but if you think Hezbollah won you're just autistic

We weren't stabbed in the back, Israeli leadership made a mistake to have the war against Hezbollah and not Lebanon as a whole. Also we cared too much about civilians in the vicinity of Hezbollah. Next war will be against Lebanon. They're gonna be left with no infastracture whatsoever, let's see how long can Hezbollah fight with no electricity.

Oh...,Do you mean like the way the us "won" in vietnam?
Tho there were many in the aftermath of the defeat who also tried to claim that the us government "tied their hands",and that if that hadnt happened then surely america would`ve won,funny that eh?.

Vietnam is incomparable.

 

[QWECXZ]

Lmao this retard is coping so bad, yea we had failures but if you think Hezbollah won you're just autistic

We weren't stabbed in the back, Israeli leadership made a mistake to have the war against Hezbollah and not Lebanon as a whole. Also we cared too much about civilians in the vicinity of Hezbollah. Next war will be against Lebanon. They're gonna be left with no infastracture whatsoever, let's see how long can Hezbollah fight with no electricity.

Hi again Ketchup

If you look at the stats, they show anything but your caring for civilians. You killed far more civilians than Hezbollah fighters. You even targeted UN personnel. What else could you do that you didn't?

Actually, your leadership didn't make a mistake. Your leadership believes that it is in Israel's best interest to tell people that Israel loves the people of your enemy countries but the problem is with some particular people who oppose Israel's existence. YouTube is filled with (cringeworthy) comments by Israelis that say Israelis love Iranians. lol You understand perfectly well that giving a peace loving face while killing civilians is a lot better than killing civilians and uniting your enemies against you. Although the Lebanese army is incompetent, I'm sure that Israel would've had many more problems had you declared a war on all of Lebanon because then you would've turned all Lebanese people against you and not just Hezbollah supporters. And Hezbollah would've recruited more soldiers hating you with a passion that way.

As for the next war, Hezbollah now has game changing weapons that can cause more casualties in Israel. They can target Tel Aviv. And as you know better than me, Israel is a dense country. And your pain tolerance is low as we all saw in the last Israel-Gaza war where 700 something rockets made Israel ask for a ceasefire in 48 hours.

 

[Surenas]

Imagine thinking Hezbollah won with Lebanon crippled and the organization suffering massive losses, repelled from south Lebanon and acheving a very long lasting peace.

The spinning continues.

Hezbollah scored a clear victory. The war even bolstered its political position inside the country. Moreover, that long lasting peace you talk about is irrelevant when the organization that is upholding that peace has, in the meanwhile, armed itself with greater and more sophisticated weaponry.

The next war, which is sure to come in due course, will see greater destruction of Israeli infrastructure than during all its previous wars.

 

[Rukarl]

The spinning continues.

Hezbollah scored a clear victory. The war even bolstered its political position inside the country. Moreover, that long lasting peace you talk about is irrelevant when the organization that is upholding that peace has, in the meanwhile, armed itself with greater and more sophisticated weaponry.

The next war, which is sure to come in due course, will see greater destruction of Israeli infrastructure than during all its previous wars.

IMO a greater damage to Israeli infrastructure also means the Israelis becoming more irrational e.g. targetting Nasrallah or even trying to do something funny regarding Iran.

 

[QWECXZ]

IMO a greater damage to Israeli infrastructure also means the Israelis becoming more irrational e.g. targetting Nasrallah or even trying to do something funny regarding Iran.

Israel is not the US that assassinates someone and gets away with it because its territory is out of reach. US is far, far away, huge, with an economy and military industry that no one comes close to it, their infrastructure is very well dispersed, it is well-defended by layers of anti-missile systems in Europe and the US. Israel is a small country with high population densities in few cities like Tel Aviv and Haifa and their infrastructures are also concentrated in few places. Israelis are not irrational at all, they are smart and know their limits very well. They understand very well that targeting Iran directly means that Iran will target Israel directly from Syria, Lebanon, Gaza, Iraq and Iran. Even Yemeni Houthis are now equipped with missiles that can reach Israel.

 

[Rukarl]

Israel is not the US that assassinates someone and gets away with it because its territory is out of reach. US is far, far away, huge, with an economy and military industry that no one comes close to it, their infrastructure is very well dispersed, it is well-defended by layers of anti-missile systems in Europe and the US. Israel is a small country with high population densities in few cities like Tel Aviv and Haifa and their infrastructures are also concentrated in few places. Israelis are not irrational at all, they are smart and know their limits very well. They understand very well that targeting Iran directly means that Iran will target Israel directly from Syria, Lebanon, Gaza, Iraq and Iran. Even Yemeni Houthis are now equipped with missiles that can reach Israel.

You are not familiar with Israel's insanity .? , their crimes against the local civilians of their enemy nations have been exposed long ago and is available for you to study them. If Israel is going to suffer heavy losses (i dont know what their redline or threshold is) be sure that they will fully aim to destroy the whole infrastructure of Lebanon and other nations. Just look what the Israeli member here said ''They're gonna be left with no infastracture whatsoever, let's see how long can Hezbollah fight with no electricity.''

As a nation that voted for Netanyahu constantly for over 24+ years they have proven beyond doubt that their insanity is well worth considering by their enemy nations.

Long story short, if Hezbollah is going to own them big time and make them suffer heavy casualties and humiliate them infront of the world they will just bomb Lebanon to the stone age in a extremely horrific manner. It is just their past actions that make this gruesome future prediction look very realistic.

However, i do not think there will be a war between Hezbollah and Israel in the coming 10 or even 20 years. A war between Hezbollah and the USA is a more realistic scenario.

 

[QWECXZ]

You are not familiar with Israel's insanity .? , their crimes against the local civilians of their enemy nations have been exposed long ago and is available for you to study them. If Israel is going to suffer heavy losses (i dont know what their redline or threshold is) be sure that they will fully aim to destroy the whole infrastructure of Lebanon and other nations. Just look what the Israeli member here said ''They're gonna be left with no infastracture whatsoever, let's see how long can Hezbollah fight with no electricity.''

As a nation that voted for Netanyahu constantly for over 24+ years they have proven beyond doubt that their insanity is well worth considering by their enemy nations.

Long story short, if Hezbollah is going to own them big time and make them suffer heavy casualties and humiliate them infront of the world they will just bomb Lebanon to the stone age in a extremely horrific manner. It is just their past actions that make this gruesome future prediction look very realistic.

It's not insanity when you know that your atrocities will go unanswered. It's sane and smart. They want to establish deterrence by drawing a big red line. Israel enjoys the US veto power in the UNSC. That's why they ignore UNSC and UN General Assembly resolutions with confidence. It's not because they're insane or irrational.

They can obviously leave Hezbollah with no electricity, but will those settlers in Israel stay there when Israel has no electricity? What if Hezbollah hits their water desalination plants? It has been proven that the accuracy of Iranian missiles is much better than previously anticipated. And Hezbollah now has weapons that can hit anywhere in Israel.

They vote for Netanyahu because they believe Netanyahu is keeping them safe. Safety and security are by far the most important concerns of the settlers.

I just told you why they wouldn't do that. Hezbollah now can hit their vital infrastructures as well. What good does it serve Israelis to send Lebanon to stone age when their own country will suffer too?

 

[Rukarl]

It's not insanity when you know that your atrocities will go unanswered. It's sane and smart. They want to establish deterrence by drawing a big red line. Israel enjoys the US veto power in the UNSC. That's why they ignore UNSC and UN General Assembly resolutions with confidence. It's not because they're insane or irrational.

They can obviously leave Hezbollah with no electricity, but will those settlers in Israel stay there when Israel has no electricity? What if Hezbollah hits their water desalination plants? It has been proven that the accuracy of Iranian missiles is much better than previously anticipated. And Hezbollah now has weapons that can hit anywhere in Israel.

They vote for Netanyahu because they believe Netanyahu is keeping them safe. Safety and security are by far the most important concerns of the settlers.

I just told you why they wouldn't do that. Hezbollah now can hit their vital infrastructures as well. What good does it serve Israelis to send Lebanon to stone age when their own country will suffer too?

Israel can not afford to play patience and strategy like Iran. It just can't afford it geopolitically. They will commit great mass crimes if they are hit badly. Their past actions have proven this. Everytime some IDF soldier fell their pilots went insane and bombed more civilian places. They simply can not cope with their losses. They believe they are the chosen ones and far better race and they will absolutely have no mercy.

If Israel is targeted in a brutal way by Hezbollah then all chains will be broken and they will go fully brzerk because they cant afford a group like Hezbollah to play around with their security. This will ''embolden the enemies of the jewish state'' like they stated.

That's why i believe in the next war (wont happen imo) Nasrallah will be assasinated and other top officials. Iranian mainland will be a target too.

Iran can only prevent this by demonstrating their advanced nuclear breakout capacities. But Hezbollah is really at the mercy of Israel unless it acquires a far more stronger capability.

 

[Surenas]

IMO a greater damage to Israeli infrastructure also means the Israelis becoming more irrational e.g. targetting Nasrallah or even trying to do something funny regarding Iran.

Sure.

The coming war between Israel and Hezbollah will be completely different than anything we have seen before. Both sides will suffer extensive damage.

But, remember this. The last time when Hezbollah initiated war in 2006, when it killed a number of Israeli border guards, it completely misjudged Israeli response (Nasrallah admitted this after the war). They did not consult Tehran before conducting that attack, and Iran has since then reportedly constrained Hezbollah with regards to its autonomous decision making.

Iran will not give Hezbollah the green light to initiate another attack from Lebanese soil against Israeli targets, unless it is directly in response to an Israeli attack that in some way crossed the red lines that both sides have established.

That means that Hezbollah will only be activated against Israel in case the latter does something that directly threatens Iranian strategic interests and/or territorial integrity. Basically, Hezbollah functions as a IRGC division on Israel's northern border which Iran could activate in case Tel Aviv does something stupid. Like targetting Iran's nuclear infrastructure.

So it is unlikely imo that Hezbollah will feature in a war against Israel in the future without Iran already being directly involved.