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they come at night and vandalize with sprays there is nothing you can do.. we now install security cameras
Turkish Peace Operations in Syria (Operation Olive Branch) Updates & Discussions
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they come at night and vandalize with sprays there is nothing you can do.. we now install security cameras
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İdlib, elbab and cerablus should also be included into this zone.
That would include water dams in north Syria which is a greater prize than Deiz or Raqqa. Water will be more valuable than energy in the near future. I believe Americans want that area because of water.
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Turkey can already turn off the water with its Dam capacities in SE provinces, it doesnt need north Syria for this.
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Erdogan threatens to extend Afrin operation to Manbij
24 JANUARY 2018
Turkish army bombs Syrian Kurdish rebels in northern Syria for a fifth day, as Turkish PM warns for new front at Manbij.
Turkish military said that one Turkish soldier has been killed in the operation [Reuters]
The Turkish military has shelled and bombarded Syrian Kurdish positions in northern Syria for a fifth day, as President Recep Tayyip Erdoganthreatened to extend the offensive east of the city of Manbij.
Turkey on Saturday launched the operation in the Afrin region to clear it of US-backed Kurdish fighters, seen by Ankara as a threat to its security.
Manbij, which is also under control of US-backed Kurds, is located east of the city of Aleppo. Erdogan said he plans to "foil games along our borders starting from Manbij", adding that Turkey would, "clean our region from this trouble completely".
The Turkish military said on Wednesday that 260 Kurdish and ISILfighters were killed in the incursion, a claim refuted by a Kurdish commander, who said the number was "greatly exaggerated".
Turkish troops have taken control of various Syrian Kurdish positions and created "safe zones" in these areas, according to Turkish media.
One Turkish soldier has died during the operation, according to the military.
Fight against ISIL
The Kurdish Democratic Union Party (PYD) and its armed People's Protection Units (YPG) have come to control large expanses of northern Syria, including Afrin, in the course of the Syrian war.
The YPG was at the forefront of the fight against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) group, which had captured large parts of Syria and neighbouring Iraq in 2014.
Redur Xelil, a senior official from Syria Democratic Forces (SDF) led by the YPG, confirmed that several YPG and SDF fighters had been killed, but declined to say how many.
WATCH: Is Trump 'playing with fire' by backing Kurds in Syria?
He also said the SDF had killed tens of Turkish forces and allied Free Syrian Army fighters but said he did not have precise numbers.
He also denied the claim that there were ISIL fighters taking part in the fight for Afrin.
Turkey sees the YPG as a "terrorist group" that acts as the Syrian offshoot of the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK), which has waged a bloody three-decade fight against the Turkish state.
The US, however, sees the YPG as an effective group in the fight against ISIL in the region.
The Turkish operation against the US' Kurdish allies could threaten Washington's plans to stabilise and rebuild a large area in northeast Syria - beyond President Bashar al-Assad's control - where the US supported a force dominated by the YPG to drive out the ISIL group.
Erdogan and Trump to talk
Erdogan and his US counterpart Donald Trump will speak over the phone on Wednesday to discuss the situation in Afrin, according to Mevlut Cavusoglu, the Turkish foreign minister.
The US and Russia have both called on Ankara to exercise restraint during its current "Operation Olive Branch".
Although Moscow did not express support for the operation, Russian forces in Afrin were withdrawn from the area just before the start of the offensive, and Turkish jets were allowed to use the airspace over the area, which is controlled by the Syrian government and Russia.
The Kremlin said President Vladimir Putin had also discussed Turkey's military operation with Erdogan by phone, saying that Syria's territorial integrity and sovereignty had to be respected.
A Kremlin statement said both men stressed the importance of continuing their two countries' joint work to try to find a peaceful resolution to Syria's crisis. Russia has been Assad's most powerful ally against rebels and fighters in Syria.
Al Jazeera's Stefanie Dekker, reporting from the Turkey-Syria border, said the United Nations estimates the Turkish offensive has displaced about 5,000 civilians in the Afrin district so far.
"The problem is they can't get out. They can't get out to Turkey [and] they can't really get out of the province," she said, adding that humanitarian organisations do not have access to the area.
Sources in Afrin told Al Jazeera some residents do not want to leave, while others have accused the YPG of not allowing them to get out, Dekker said.
"It is very much a propaganda war from every side. You need to take everything with a pinch of salt: the figures, the death tolls, what happens, what [are] the facts on the ground," she said.
"What you're seeing now, with ISIL having been pushed out largely from Syria, is this power play of the international actors. The YPG is the US' best ally, so it's a very complex situation."
Source: Al Jazeera News
24 JANUARY 2018
Turkish army bombs Syrian Kurdish rebels in northern Syria for a fifth day, as Turkish PM warns for new front at Manbij.
Turkish military said that one Turkish soldier has been killed in the operation [Reuters]
The Turkish military has shelled and bombarded Syrian Kurdish positions in northern Syria for a fifth day, as President Recep Tayyip Erdoganthreatened to extend the offensive east of the city of Manbij.
Turkey on Saturday launched the operation in the Afrin region to clear it of US-backed Kurdish fighters, seen by Ankara as a threat to its security.
Manbij, which is also under control of US-backed Kurds, is located east of the city of Aleppo. Erdogan said he plans to "foil games along our borders starting from Manbij", adding that Turkey would, "clean our region from this trouble completely".
The Turkish military said on Wednesday that 260 Kurdish and ISILfighters were killed in the incursion, a claim refuted by a Kurdish commander, who said the number was "greatly exaggerated".
Turkish troops have taken control of various Syrian Kurdish positions and created "safe zones" in these areas, according to Turkish media.
One Turkish soldier has died during the operation, according to the military.
Fight against ISIL
The Kurdish Democratic Union Party (PYD) and its armed People's Protection Units (YPG) have come to control large expanses of northern Syria, including Afrin, in the course of the Syrian war.
The YPG was at the forefront of the fight against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) group, which had captured large parts of Syria and neighbouring Iraq in 2014.
Redur Xelil, a senior official from Syria Democratic Forces (SDF) led by the YPG, confirmed that several YPG and SDF fighters had been killed, but declined to say how many.
WATCH: Is Trump 'playing with fire' by backing Kurds in Syria?
He also said the SDF had killed tens of Turkish forces and allied Free Syrian Army fighters but said he did not have precise numbers.
He also denied the claim that there were ISIL fighters taking part in the fight for Afrin.
Turkey sees the YPG as a "terrorist group" that acts as the Syrian offshoot of the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK), which has waged a bloody three-decade fight against the Turkish state.
The US, however, sees the YPG as an effective group in the fight against ISIL in the region.
The Turkish operation against the US' Kurdish allies could threaten Washington's plans to stabilise and rebuild a large area in northeast Syria - beyond President Bashar al-Assad's control - where the US supported a force dominated by the YPG to drive out the ISIL group.
Erdogan and Trump to talk
Erdogan and his US counterpart Donald Trump will speak over the phone on Wednesday to discuss the situation in Afrin, according to Mevlut Cavusoglu, the Turkish foreign minister.
The US and Russia have both called on Ankara to exercise restraint during its current "Operation Olive Branch".
Although Moscow did not express support for the operation, Russian forces in Afrin were withdrawn from the area just before the start of the offensive, and Turkish jets were allowed to use the airspace over the area, which is controlled by the Syrian government and Russia.
The Kremlin said President Vladimir Putin had also discussed Turkey's military operation with Erdogan by phone, saying that Syria's territorial integrity and sovereignty had to be respected.
A Kremlin statement said both men stressed the importance of continuing their two countries' joint work to try to find a peaceful resolution to Syria's crisis. Russia has been Assad's most powerful ally against rebels and fighters in Syria.
Al Jazeera's Stefanie Dekker, reporting from the Turkey-Syria border, said the United Nations estimates the Turkish offensive has displaced about 5,000 civilians in the Afrin district so far.
"The problem is they can't get out. They can't get out to Turkey [and] they can't really get out of the province," she said, adding that humanitarian organisations do not have access to the area.
Sources in Afrin told Al Jazeera some residents do not want to leave, while others have accused the YPG of not allowing them to get out, Dekker said.
"It is very much a propaganda war from every side. You need to take everything with a pinch of salt: the figures, the death tolls, what happens, what [are] the facts on the ground," she said.
"What you're seeing now, with ISIL having been pushed out largely from Syria, is this power play of the international actors. The YPG is the US' best ally, so it's a very complex situation."
Source: Al Jazeera News
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“Operations for Münbic and East of Euprate may start”
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Create a youth volunteer civil guarding team. No weapons, only sports gear. You understand ?
Don't leave the combat field to the rats.
İdlib, elbab and cerablus should also be included into this zone.
In theory perfect and the US said today ok . Do you believe it mate ?
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Fortifications vs light UAV ammo ? Not possible
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not for fortification... but hunting YPG... some sort of CAS... for troop advance...
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WASHINGTON — The White House sent out a message aimed at mollifying Turkey’s president on Tuesday, suggesting that the United States was easing off its support for the Syrian Kurds.
That message was quickly contradicted by the Pentagon, which said it would continue to stand by the Kurds, even as Turkey invaded their stronghold in northwestern Syria.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/01/...s://www.nytimes.com/section/world?nytmobile=0
That message was quickly contradicted by the Pentagon, which said it would continue to stand by the Kurds, even as Turkey invaded their stronghold in northwestern Syria.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/01/...s://www.nytimes.com/section/world?nytmobile=0
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in an age of network centric modern warfare when you have asymmetrical force under your command as well like FSA and when only option for your enemy is asymmetric warfare in a mountainous terrain and in a city environment! I guess Caesar and Hannibal analogies simply do not hold! especially when you consider the fact that our only objective is not just the achieve area control in Afrin but to minimize our enemy's capacity to remain a threat to us in the future by naturalizing as many bastards as we can.
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Less talking more sharing videos and news....work a little guys.
Bro. Well choosen pictures. But, be serious. Is this the solution ? FMO , NO. Only CAS supported perfect trained mechanized Infantry is the solution. I don't see them . No more - tezkere birakan- sözlesmeli , T-C. is not a employment office. TSK is the top institution in Türkiye. Lets discuss about. We'll erase terrorist scum and behind service members for sure, but we should be prepared better for the future.
Do you know, Musa sacrified himself to rescue his platoon ? @bedbin
Bedo, sen de bundan sonra yan cizersen seni Igno ederim. @Fenasi Kerim @T-123456
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Let's stop being armchair generals and trust in our generals.
Seriously, for a few days lot's of armchair generals in this thread...trying to orchastrate the operation....why don't you all shut up. And act like a proper forumer ?
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