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Turkish Ground Forces enter Syria !

This guy is talking pure BS. My family is of Zaza descent and we reject the PKK and establishment of a Kurdish state.
Every citizen in the Turkish Republic has the same rights and obligations. The ethnicity does not matter for the state. Look at our history and I'm sure you'll understand me. In Turkey we had Kurdish generals, prosecutors and even a Kurdish Prime Minister (Turgut Özal) and a President (Ismet Inönü). Nobody restricts us in our individual development. We have plenty of career opportunities in the state administration like every other citizen!

We're happy to live in such a great country with a prestigious past. This Marxist Kurds do not represent the majority of us! Because of his dialect, I would not even understand the User Al-Kurdi when he's speaking Kurdish with me. There is not even a unified Kurdish language. In which language will we talk in a common Kurdish state?
Next time, you better talk for yourself, AL-KURDI.
 
This guy is talking pure BS. My family is of Zaza descent and we reject the PKK and establishment of a Kurdish state.
Every citizen in the Turkish Republic has the same rights and obligations. The ethnicity does not matter for the state. Look at our history and I'm sure you'll understand me. In Turkey we had Kurdish generals, prosecutors and even a Kurdish Prime Minister (Turgut Özal) and a President (Ismet Inönü). Nobody restricts us in our individual development. We have plenty of career opportunities in the state administration like every other citizen!

We're happy to live in such a great country with a prestigious past. This Marxist Kurds do not represent the majority of us! Because of his dialect, I would not even understand the User Al-Kurdi when he's speaking Kurdish with me. There is not even a unified Kurdish language. In which language will we talk in a common Kurdish state?
Next time, you better talk for yourself, AL-KURDI.
Don't forget Bülent Ecevit.....he was one of the best leaders Turkey has ever seen. None have the balls that Ecevit got.
 
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That is the regime narrative, the regime portrays every Syrian who opposes it as Daesh.
got a point there.
who uploads those mass beheading and execution videos? blowing up of shrines, mosques and churches?
 
Senior PKK members infiltrated into towns and armed, organized terrorist sympathizers. Stock piled massive amounts of weaponry thanks to "Peace Process".

Turkish army entered only after these terrorists dig trenches and build barricades in towns, opening fire against security offcials.
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As you can see in the pictures none of the homes were damaged priory to these barricades.



Because we don't have problems with Kurds in general.

ı don't know what "Bakur" means.


Tanks only being used against barricades that have been rigged with explosives.


You can define as you like. This is Turkey and it's Turkish soldiers against PKK terrorists.


Fight against PKK and security forces....


As i explained before.....


Fired plastic bullet, as you can see he didn't even collapsed.


Killed by PKK not by security forces, PKK propaganda.


They were trying to protect PKK terrorists entrapped in Cizre. All terrorists killed within the following days.



PKK opened fire at those civilians not security forces, PKK propaganda.


All the towns will be cleansed from PKK terrorists, our citizens will live without the fear of PKK.....cry as you much as you like, terrorist supporter.

Kurds started barricading their own cities when Turks started the war on Kurds(PKK) and thus started to prepare themselves. There are no senior PKK commanders, there are no Russian or Serbian hired merceneries. Only Kurds.

Turkish invasion of Kurdish towns and cities led to all the death and destruction. Not PKK. PKK did not enter Kurdish towns and cities and to destroy them. Especielly in areas where they have full support. Turkish army did. And if that is not occupation I don't know what it. Surely if Kurds favoured turks and their army, the people would have welcomed no? But then we both know why you came and what it has led to. The Kurdish people where you say "PKK infested" did not call upon your army to come and "save" them. Nor did you. What you did was destroying thousands of homes forcing tens of thousands of kurds to leave their homes, resulted in the death of thousands of Kurds. PKK is not perfect, but PKK represents Kurds and especially in the curfewed regions.

tanks have been used on buildings and homes of Kurds. you think your army is innocent or something? brainwashed since 1923. wanna remove a barricade use bulldozers.


another killed terrorist, see the scarf.
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we both know that turks didn't invade to bring peace of stability

 
Don't forget Bülent Ecevit.....he was one of the best leaders Turkey has ever seen. None have the balls that Ecevit got.

True. He made the neccesary reforms that we needed, which some might consider political suicide. Either way he done good.
 
Kurds started barricading their own cities when Turks started the war on Kurds(PKK) and thus started to prepare themselves. There are no senior PKK commanders, there are no Russian or Serbian hired merceneries. Only Kurds.

Turkish invasion of Kurdish towns and cities led to all the death and destruction. Not PKK. PKK did not enter Kurdish towns and cities and to destroy them. Especielly in areas where they have full support. Turkish army did. And if that is not occupation I don't know what it. Surely if Kurds favoured turks and their army, the people would have welcomed no? But then we both know why you came and what it has led to. The Kurdish people where you say "PKK infested" did not call upon your army to come and "save" them. Nor did you. What you did was destroying thousands of homes forcing tens of thousands of kurds to leave their homes, resulted in the death of thousands of Kurds. PKK is not perfect, but PKK represents Kurds and especially in the curfewed regions.

tanks have been used on buildings and homes of Kurds. you think your army is innocent or something? brainwashed since 1923. wanna remove a barricade use bulldozers.


another killed terrorist, see the scarf.
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we both know that turks didn't invade to bring peace of stability

Tell me one thing. How can a country invade itself?
 
This is necessary where despots rule for half a century with the help of goons.
completely wrong if you do that you must select an interim government which will make a lot of Discussion and nonsense about who the interim president would be and even if you select one it become like Yemen ,he want to grab the power for himself and will result in uprising and then some neighboring country feel their interests are endangered and bomb the hell out of the country , completely impractical and illogical.

more importantly the terrorist already stated that the government must be handed to them and they will held an election whenever it suit them and more importantly Bashar Asad and his party must no enter the election .
 
Turkey must stop supplying terrorists in Syria. Otherwise Russia in response to Turkey's provocations to start implementing the Kurds ATGM Kornet-E, the RPG-29/30 weapons. And then the Turkish state will drown in blood. America will betray you. So do not even hope for it. Russia will offer America a new agreement on limiting nuclear weapons, the United States is happy to sign. In return, the United States will not help Turkey. That's all.
Dude we really dont give a shyte about your beloved Russia, they obviously dont have enough power projection to stop Turkey from following its interests so stop bringing them up in every single topic. :wave:
 
Kurds started barricading their own cities when Turks started the war on Kurds(PKK) and thus started to prepare themselves. There are no senior PKK commanders, there are no Russian or Serbian hired merceneries. Only Kurds.

War on PKK started by PKK when they executed 2 police in their sleep at their homes...

PKK infltrated towns, now can ordinary citizens could have assault rifles with scopes, sniper rifles, RPGs, plastic explosives, etc...Many senior PKK terrorists killed in Cizre, Silopi, Diyarbakır.

Turkish invasion of Kurdish towns and cities led to all the death and destruction. Not PKK. PKK did not enter Kurdish towns and cities and to destroy them. Especielly in areas where they have full support. Turkish army did. And if that is not occupation I don't know what it. Surely if Kurds favoured turks and their army, the people would have welcomed no? But then we both know why you came and what it has led to. The Kurdish people where you say "PKK infested" did not call upon your army to come and "save" them. Nor did you. What you did was destroying thousands of homes forcing tens of thousands of kurds to leave their homes, resulted in the death of thousands of Kurds. PKK is not perfect, but PKK represents Kurds and especially in the curfewed regions.
Total BS story and BS terminology that you are using.

tanks have been used on buildings and homes of Kurds. you think your army is innocent or something? brainwashed since 1923. wanna remove a barricade use bulldozers.
At first Bulldozers were used but they got hit by RPGs and IEDs wired to barricades, hence to not give casuelties we started to blow them up from safe distance with tanks.


Propaganda for people who do not know Turkish.

another killed terrorist, see the scarf.
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Innocent children fell victim to PKK's terrorism, RIP. :(

we both know that turks didn't invade to bring peace of stability
Your terminology is at fault...when Pakistani Soldiers kills Taliban in Pakistan.....Pakistani soldiers are invading Pakistan ? :crazy:

Soldiers celebrating cleaning of a town, what's the big deal ?
 
Cizre-Silopi and Sur is cleaned ! Only 3 district, More than 1000 PKK is in hell at present.

Next target is İdil. @Al-Kurdi hurry up to escape.
Tanks are marching towards İdil at present !

 
The thread is now totally out of topic (it was a spam thread from the beginning!) but I appreciated that people argue almost politely.

The separatist kurds are something that both of Iran and Turkey know, so I know how kind of ideology they have. I don't support the ongoing turkish war against kurds in Syria and Turkey but I don't blame it neither.
But the funny issue is that we can use the same nonsenses about it that some people use about the Syrian war, like "the turkish regime is slaughtering innocent kurdish people", "Turkey is ethnically cleansing the Kurdistan of Turkey", "Erdogan is a dictator", "Erdogan is killing his own people", and blah blah blah…
Turkey's gov't is certainly oppressing Kurds (Iran isn't 100% fair with some Kurds neither) and no one could deny it but I don't blame Turkey like it's a total evil! Unlike some people who pretend that Iran and Syria are Satan secretaries (while they know the truth well)!

I just hope we all try to judge more fairly and put our biases away…
 
The thread is now totally out of topic (it was a spam thread from the beginning!) but I appreciated that people argue almost politely.

The separatist kurds are something that both of Iran and Turkey know, so I know how kind of ideology they have. I don't support the ongoing turkish war against kurds in Syria and Turkey but I don't blame it neither.
But the funny issue is that we can use the same nonsenses about it that some people use about the Syrian war, like "the turkish regime is slaughtering innocent kurdish people", "Turkey is ethnically cleansing the Kurdistan of Turkey", "Erdogan is a dictator", "Erdogan is killing his own people", and blah blah blah…
Turkey's gov't is certainly oppressing Kurds (Iran isn't 100% fair with some Kurds neither) and no one could deny it but I don't blame Turkey like it's a total evil! Unlike some people who pretend that Iran and Syria are Satan secretaries (while they know the truth well)!

I just hope we all try to judge more fairly and put our biases away…

Iranians have every right to fight against separatist terrorists in their own country.
This is not an issue at all.
 
Iranians have every right to fight against separatist terrorists in their own country.
This is not an issue at all.




Iran isn't in any position to give Turkey advice. Turkey has had Kurdish leaders as well as ethnic Turkic leaders.

Iran's constitution is written on a sectarian basis. It states only an Ithna Ashari Shiite can be Supreme Leader

This is Turkey's constitution. It doesn't have a sectarian qualification

The Constitution of the Republic of Turkey, Part III_2

In Iran, the Ayatollahs killed 150,000 - 200,000 secularist Iranians after the revolution, and imprison activists campaigning for secularist politics. But in Turkey they support Marxist-Stalinists Kurds? Why not take your own medicine?

Even calling the PKK a Kurdish party is an insult to Kurds. The PKK is a Marxist-Stalinist party which opposes Kurdish nationalism and thinks Kurdish culture is a delusion.
 
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got a point there.
who uploads those mass beheading and execution videos? blowing up of shrines, mosques and churches?

The term 'portraying' does not mean uploading videos, of course, the ISIS terrorists upload most of those videos for their own purpose, I say they do it for their masters had trained them exactly for that.


Iran isn't in any position to give Turkey advice. Turkey has had Kurdish leaders as well as ethnic Turkic leaders.

Iran's constitution is written on a sectarian basis. It states only an Ithna Ashari Shiite can be Supreme Leader

This is Turkey's constitution. It doesn't have a sectarian qualification

The Constitution of the Republic of Turkey, Part III_2

In Iran, the Ayatollahs killed 150,000 - 200,000 secularist Iranians after the revolution, and imprison activists campaigning for secularist politics. But in Turkey they support Marxist-Stalinists Kurds? Why not take your own medicine?

Even calling the PKK a Kurdish party is an insult to Kurds. The PKK is a Marxist-Stalinist party which opposes Kurdish nationalism and thinks Kurdish culture is a delusion.

The last point is the most important factor here. PKK and its affiliates are marxist terrorist organizations, plain and simple and Turkey has every right to wipe them out.


completely wrong if you do that you must select an interim government which will make a lot of Discussion and nonsense about who the interim president would be and even if you select one it become like Yemen ,he want to grab the power for himself and will result in uprising and then some neighboring country feel their interests are endangered and bomb the hell out of the country , completely impractical and illogical.

more importantly the terrorist already stated that the government must be handed to them and they will held an election whenever it suit them and more importantly Bashar Asad and his party must no enter the election .

Are you a habitual liar like the Russians and the zionazis?

What makes you think that US-Turkey-Saudi sponsored elections will accept Assad in favour?

Why is Asad so afraid to run in the election without being in power? Is it too difficult for you to understand? Eat foods that help your brain cells or study ethics.
 

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