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The Armenian army has largely lost its technical capacity to fight. The economy is destroyed after attack on Tovruz and restart Karabakh war, also for this reason most of army inventory lost in the 44-day Karabakh war cannot be replaced with a few dozen lorries that India will transport through Iran.

Let me tell you clearly that Azerbaijan now has the military superiority to enter Yerevan in a few weeks. But the goal here is not a new war, but the fulfilment of the terms of the peace agreement officially signed by the parties after 44 days of fighting.

The US puppet government in Armenia will not hesitate to throw everyone, including Iran, into the fire in order to renege on this agreement.

Whether there will be a war or not, the coming days will tell, but I can assure you that the time needed to close the Zangazur cordon is shorter than the time needed for possible Iranian intervention and convoy deployment.

The question is, will the US succeed in turning this into a war? Following this page, it seems that many idiots are eager to take the bait.
 
Today, Tehran's access to the world is provided through Armenia.

Not really. Iran's access to the outside world is provided by her ports on the Persian Gulf. Then essentially by Turkey on land. To a lesser extent Iraq, the Caspian Sea and the railway link to Uzbekistan via Turkmenistan.

Armenia is hardly used as a transit route by Iran. It represents a tiny portion of Iran's foreign trade, if at all.

In the 1990s, during the First Karabakh War, Iran consistently supported the Armenians.

This is incorrect. Iran backed Azarbaijan during the first Karabakh war, including militarily. Ten Iranian troops embraced martyrdom fighting on Azarbaijan's side.

Time for some proof to lay to rest this recurrent disinformation.

The Iranian officer shown in the following clip is Mansur Haqiqatpur. He is a member of the IRGC, seen here in the Republic of Azarbaijan advising Azari troops during the first Karabakh war:


Moreover, Iran's then President Hashemi Rafsanjani mentions some of Tehran's aid to the Republic of Azerbaijan:

"I told the Foreign Minister by phone that [Mr. Velayati] could apply for the passage of Afghan fighters to Azerbaijan. The two sides demanded that they provide weapons and ammunition and take action to protect the site of the Khodaafarin Dam in Azerbaijan against the Armenians. "Mr. Forouzandeh [the Minister of Defense] announced that a $ 30 million arms and ammunition deal had been made with the Azeris. [7]"
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"In the evening we talked on the phone with Mr. Heydar Aliyev, the acting President of Azerbaijan. He thanked us for our help and said that they have elections on October 2nd. [9]

A former high-ranking Iranian official was quoted by the Mashreq Defense and Security Group as saying: "The commanders of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps were sent to the Republic of Azerbaijan during the Karabakh war and trained its fighters and soldiers. "But when Heydar Aliyev, the former president of the Republic of Azerbaijan, saw that the IRGC commanders were praying and praying, he returned them from the Republic of Azerbaijan." [10]

Mansour Haghighatpour, one of the commanders of the Revolutionary Guards Corps, wrote in his official website about his introduction: The most defense and training cooperation will take place between Iran and the Republic of Azerbaijan. "[11] + Video of military training of Azeri fighters by the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps [12]

In an interview with the Inter Press website of the Republic of Azerbaijan, Noureddine Khoja, one of the commanders of the Republic of Azerbaijan, said in response to a reporter's question whether any of his neighbors helped us: "We asked Iran for help in the Zangilan incidents; "If it were not for the Iranian artillery fire at that time, the people of Zangilan would have been killed." [13]

"Gholam Asgar Karimian," one of the commanders of the Revolutionary Guards, said in a press conference on the occasion of the 2nd of Ordibehesht (the anniversary of the founding of the Revolutionary Guards): "He called the Karabakh war one of the oppressions of Iran. "At the highest level, we helped the government of Azerbaijan, but some with special intentions tried not to express it." [14]

In March 2010, Mohsen Rezaei, a former commander of the Revolutionary Guards, told reporters in Tabriz that a large number of Iranians had been killed in support of the Republic of Azerbaijan in the Nagorno-Karabakh war, and that Iran had provided military assistance and training to the Republic of Azerbaijan during the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict. "He has not hesitated."

Sardar Kabiri, Iran's military adviser during the Nagorno-Karabakh war, also said at the "Islam Topraqi" summit: "The Islamic Republic of Iran did not withhold logistical, support, educational and political assistance from the Muslim government and people of the Republic of Azerbaijan during the Karabakh war. One of the direct contributions to Azerbaijan is the sale of weapons worth $ 25 million in the same year; Also, according to the memorandum between the Iranian government and the government of Azerbaijan, 8,000 Azeri forces received military training under the supervision of Iranian trainers, and the late Heydar Aliyev attended the training maneuver of these forces several times.

The High Adviser to the Governor of East Azerbaijan, noting that unfortunately the Islamic Republic of Iran was later accused in the mass media of the Republic of Azerbaijan of supporting the Armenian forces in this moharebeh, said that the reason for this atmosphere was behind-the-scenes groups seeking to distance Iran from Azerbaijan and vice versa. . [15]


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کمک‌های ایران به جمهوری آذربایجان - ویکی‌پدیا، دانشنامهٔ آزاد

Also, we could cite the memoirs of IRGC officer sardar Nouri-Aqdam (himself an Azari Iranian), who was dispatched to help Azarbaijan in the 1990's war and who witnessed Aliyev's betrayal first hand.

The dagger held up by Nouri-Aqdam in this picture, was gifted to him by Azarbaijan Republic authorities in recognition of his engagement in the war:

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Because if the Zangezur corridor is opened, Iran's political and economic importance in the region will decrease.

Iran's importance in the region would not decrease, a security threat would emerge to Iran because of a zionist-linked regime expanding along Iran's borders and setting a precedent of forceful redrawing of a boundary.

- It means that Iran will react sharply to any change in the political geography of the region. It is a message about the Iranian army is ready for war and can intervene at any time.

I don't think that the Iranian army will enter Azerbaijani territory, but the Azerbaijani or Turkish army that will enter Zangezur may face not only the Armenian army but also the Iranian army.

Indeed, Iran will intervene one way or another if sovereign, internationally recognized Armenian territory next door is occupied by the Aliyev regime. That's what we've been insisting on all along.

This would mean a regional or even world war. The war in Zangezur could pave the way for military operations by the international coalition against Iran.

A rather optimistic assessment from the Turkish perspective. No so-called international coalition dared form for military action against Iran to this day, I very much doubt they would for the sake of an illegal land grab by Aliyev's regime. There are too many factors at stake.

First of all, there is the issue of nearly 40 million Azerbaijani Turks living in Iran. This is a serious factor for Iran.

Now this definitely discredits the quoted paper. There are no "40 million" Azari-speakers in Iran. They represent 18% at most, i.e. around 21 million. That is if we put aside the fact that the majority of these are of mixed linguistic backgrounds.

40 million people do not have their national rights recognized;

Maybe that's why Iran's Supreme Leader himself, the country's highest political authority, happens to be of Azari descent.

Azari Iranians are perfectly well represented at all levels of politics, business (disproportionately at the Tehran bazar) and military.

National rights are those enjoyed by all Iranian citizens regardless of linguistic backgrounds, they are granted to individual subjects not to linguistic communities.

there are no secondary schools, universities, newspapers and magazines in the Azerbaijani language in Iran today.

Untrue as well. Plenty of Azari language newspapers are published in Iran. Also Iranian national television IRIB has regional channels that broadcast in local languages, including Azari. In addition to this, the international service of IRIB, Sahar TV, launched a 24h program in Azari.

As for schools and universities, Azari can be studied there as an optional subject. Of course all classes aren't going to be in Azari, we have an official language in Iran that is Persian, so school curricula are to be in Persian, period. There's no internationally recognized "right" to public education fully carried out in local languages.

- No, it is not. The opening of the Zangezur Corridor was agreed as part of the Russia-Armenia-Azerbaijan trilateral agreement of 10 November 2020, and Armenia accepted it.

According to this agreement, if the Azerbaijani side provides the Lachin Corridor between Armenia and Karabakh, then the Armenian side must ensure the land connection with the main territories of Azerbaijan and Nakhchivan.

However, Armenia does not want to fulfil its obligations in this regard and wants to withdraw from the agreement under various pretexts.

This is evident in the provocations of the Armenian side both in the diplomatic sphere and on the state border.

Unfortunately, peace talks took place between Armenia and Azerbaijan at different times in the last 3 years, and certain agreements were reached. However, today Armenia is destroying everything with its provocative steps, trying to aggravate the situation and launching attacks on Azerbaijani military positions.

Terms of the 2020 ceasefire must be respected, Iran can and probably does counsel the Armenian side not to obstruct movement on the Zangezur road.

This said, lack of Armenian compliance cannot legitimize military occupation of any part of Syunik province by the Aliyev regime. A non-military solution must be found.
 
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Lets assume they would be a conflict between Iran and Turkey

how would the turkish state keep itself alive even a month ? once iranian BM`s hit its cities and economy is shut down ?

already turkish lira and economy without sanctions or war is near collapse.


Iran just resumes sell its oil and gas has always a "Life line".

look at the other nations at war right now,

Ukraine has the US and Mostly Germany/UK/France as its financier. (many billions coming in every month)

Russia´s OIL and Gas is paying the war.

how turkey would keep the state going ? its reserves are already depleted (mostly) they have also no "Natural resources" to export , will they pay the war with their Textile industry ?

will Nato Pay for Turkeys war ?

the first iranian ballistic missile landing in Istanbul or Ankara = Lira will lose the remaining value it had overnight, kurds will declare independence, economy will collapse, people will call for topple of AKP,

people will blame erdogan for war with Iran and claim he is an "USA puppet" or "Globalist puppet" total chaos will break loose.


Iran is a totalarian state, will remain stable even in 8-10 years of war. will resume sell its oil and gas.

the market will never collapse, as the market knows "what ever happens, we have our natural resources as a lifeline"


iran spent 600 billion usd in 1980´s on iran-iraq war (iraq kinda the same) in todays money that would be almost 1.8 trillion.

it is said the Ukraine war is going to cost Russia 2-3 trillion USD


Turkey´s total reserves are 115billion as in aug.2023
"according to calculations by five bankers, obtained by Reuters, net reserves rose $4.9 billion to $15.8 billion last week, while total reserves climbed to $115.6 billion. "


thats like 1-2 months of war before even the reserves are gone. (wars today are much more expensive then in the 80`s)



as i said in my last post turkey lacks the offensive capabilities, tehran is 1,000km away from their border. they have no real missile program, only outdated 80´s-early 90´s era f16 C/D 50-52

all they can do is damage a few buildings before all their jets get shot down, in meanwhile their cities infrastructure and military bases will get destroyed by Iranian Ballistic Missiles. (no need even for long range suicide drones like shahed136,arash)



in every aspect you look at it. if you be realistic and educate yourself , there is a not single way turkey could come on top. Iran will eat turkey for breakfest. Turkey is tasty.
 
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Lets assume they would be a conflict between Iran and Turkey

how would the turkish state keep itself alive even a month ? once iranian BM`s hit its cities and economy is shut down ?

already turkish lira and economy without sanctions or war is near collapse.


Iran just resumes sell its oil and gas has always a "Life line".

look at the other nations at war right now,

Ukraine has the US and Mostly Germany/UK/France as its financier. (many billions coming in every month)

Russia´s OIL and Gas is paying the war.

how turkey would keep the state going ? its reserves are already depleted (mostly) they have also no "Natural resources" to export , will they pay the war with their Textile industry ?

will Nato Pay for Turkeys war ?

the first iranian ballistic missile landing in Istanbul or Ankara = Lira will lose the remaining value it had overnight, kurds will declare independence, economy will collapse, people will call for topple of AKP,

people will blame erdogan for war with Iran and claim he is an "USA puppet" or "Globalist puppet" total chaos will break loose.


Iran is a totalarian state, will remain stable even in 8-10 years of war. will resume sell its oil and gas.

the market will never collapse, as the market knows "what ever happens, we have our natural resources as a lifeline"


iran spent 600 billion usd in 1980´s on iran-iraq war (iraq kinda the same) in todays money that would be almost 1.8 trillion.

it is said the Ukraine war is going to cost Russia 2-3 trillion USD


Turkey´s total reserves are 115billion as in aug.2023
"according to calculations by five bankers, obtained by Reuters, net reserves rose $4.9 billion to $15.8 billion last week, while total reserves climbed to $115.6 billion. "


thats like 1-2 months of war before even the reserves are gone. (wars today are much more expensive then in the 80`s)

I think you are right, but i think Iran is an advanced muslim democracy... please edit that part.
 
Lets assume they would be a conflict between Iran and Turkey

how would the turkish state keep itself alive even a month ? once iranian BM`s hit its cities and economy is shut down ?

already turkish lira and economy without sanctions or war is near collapse.


Iran just resumes sell its oil and gas has always a "Life line".

look at the other nations at war right now,

Ukraine has the US and Mostly Germany/UK/France as its financier. (many billions coming in every month)

Russia´s OIL and Gas is paying the war.

how turkey would keep the state going ? its reserves are already depleted (mostly) they have also no "Natural resources" to export , will they pay the war with their Textile industry ?

will Nato Pay for Turkeys war ?

the first iranian ballistic missile landing in Istanbul or Ankara = Lira will lose the remaining value it had overnight, kurds will declare independence, economy will collapse, people will call for topple of AKP,

people will blame erdogan for war with Iran and claim he is an "USA puppet" or "Globalist puppet" total chaos will break loose.


Iran is a totalarian state, will remain stable even in 8-10 years of war. will resume sell its oil and gas.

the market will never collapse, as the market knows "what ever happens, we have our natural resources as a lifeline"


iran spent 600 billion usd in 1980´s on iran-iraq war (iraq kinda the same) in todays money that would be almost 1.8 trillion.

it is said the Ukraine war is going to cost Russia 2-3 trillion USD


Turkey´s total reserves are 115billion as in aug.2023
"according to calculations by five bankers, obtained by Reuters, net reserves rose $4.9 billion to $15.8 billion last week, while total reserves climbed to $115.6 billion. "


thats like 1-2 months of war before even the reserves are gone. (wars today are much more expensive then in the 80`s)



as i said in my last post turkey lacks the offensive capabilities, tehran is 1,000km away from their border. they have no real missile program, only outdated 80´s-early 90´s era f16 C/D 50-52

all they can do is damage a few buildings before all their jets get shot down, in meanwhile their cities infrastructure and military bases will get destroyed by Iranian Ballistic Missiles. (no need even for long range suicide drones like shahed136,arash)



in every aspect you look at it. if you be realistic and educate yourself , there is a not single way turkey could come on top. Iran will eat turkey for breakfest. Turkey is tasty.

Retardation IQ of a 5 year old chimp. BMs can't change any conventional reality on the ground.. This is not cartoons and comics
 
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Retardation IQ of a 5 year old chimp. BMs can't change any conventional reality on the ground.. This is not cartoons and comics
You reply a long valid post with a nonsense oneliner. I think the Chimp here is someone else.

I think what user Parthianlord says (nice name lol) is that Turkey will be dragged in war that will ruin it and throw it into total chaos... Iran will remain stable and come on top.
 
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The superiority of numbers is not important, the quality is important. The weapons in Iran are older than the ones in the Turkey . For example , The old Turkey scrapped almost all of the F-4s, but Iran still uses the F-4s.

Iran Best Planes are 50 to 60 year old American F14s and F4s

These planes are right out of the museum aren’t they?

I don’t even wanna compare land forces and naval forces. Of each side that will be just embarrassing.
 
You reply a long valid post with a nonsense oneliner. I think the Chimp here is someone else.

I think what user Parthianlord says (nice name lol) is that Turkey will be dragged in war that will ruin it and throw it into total chaos... Iran will remain stable and come on top.

It will take 9 years or 10 yrs but maybe more but something will give eventually if all sides push to the end.. Turkey will have the air superiority will be able to impose itself early but that alone won't be able to win anything but it will come down on the grinding on the ground.. I think realistically looking at it after 10 years of conflict the Turks and Azeris will come on top cause they have slight better conventional armament including they are more dogged group of ppl the turks/Azeris historically and better grinders compared to their Farsi brethens and if a 3 third party was to enter by surprise at mid point of conflict it could shorten the time the turks win by 15% to 20%. It will come at great cost but it is outside of the realm of possibility and threshold of this conflict ever becoming a reality meaning can happen only in a post-apoclyptic world where the world economy has collapsed and both have nothing to lose but not in this current world format that is flourishing it will not occur due to the cost being outside of the treeshold of reality..
 
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A hypothetical war between Turkey and Iran would have significant global implications due to the size, military capabilities, and strategic importance of both countries in the Middle East and beyond. However, it's important to note that discussing such scenarios is speculative and should be approached with caution, as both nations have a history of diplomatic relations and cooperation. That said, I can outline some general aspects of what such a conflict might entail:

Both Turkey and Iran possess substantial military forces, including large standing armies, air forces, and naval capabilities. Turkey is a member of NATO and has a well-equipped and modern military. Iran, on the other hand, has a sizable military and advanced ballistic missile technology.

A war between Turkey and Iran would have significant repercussions in the Middle East and the broader region. It could potentially draw in neighboring countries and disrupt the balance of power in the area.

Given the complex web of alliances and rivalries in the Middle East, a Turkey-Iran conflict might lead to proxy conflicts in other countries. Various regional actors, such as Saudi Arabia, Israel, and Russia, could become involved indirectly.

The conflict could disrupt oil and gas supplies, impacting global energy markets. Both Turkey and Iran are major players in the energy sector, and any conflict could affect energy prices and global economies.

War always results in civilian casualties and displacement. A conflict between Turkey and Iran would likely lead to a humanitarian crisis, with refugees and internally displaced populations in both countries.

Given the potential for global repercussions, international actors, including the United Nations, might attempt to mediate and resolve the conflict diplomatically. Major powers like the United States, Russia, and China would likely play roles in shaping the outcome.

Both Turkey and Iran have rich cultural and religious histories, and a war between them could potentially strain relations within the Muslim world.

The course and outcome of such a war would be difficult to predict, as it would depend on various factors, including the strategies employed, the involvement of other nations, and the resilience of the respective populations.

It is crucial to emphasize that peaceful diplomacy and conflict resolution should always be the preferred approach to international disputes. The consequences of war, especially in a region as complex and volatile as the Middle East, are highly undesirable. Therefore, efforts to prevent such conflicts and find peaceful solutions should always be prioritized.
 
I think Iran is just not happy with existence of Azerbaijan as an independent strong state. Iranian leaders think that it sends a wrong signal to the Azerbaijani people in Iran, who may also want to become independent. That is why Iran supported Armenia, and not Azerbaijan!!
the only thing iran is not happy is turkey and azerbaiejan try to cut our routes toward north through Armenia . we won't tolerate that . they can do anything else and we don't care the example is Azerbaiejan became a hot bed of Israel espionage against Iran and we don't start a war over it

Azerbaijani’s are not Irani Forget about it they’re Turk.
there is difference between Azeri and turks as there is different between turks in Turkiyeh in different areas .

You're weak in every sector but only strong in ballistic missiles your AESA is old technology can easily be decived lol
RQ-4
remember that . USA spy drone and USA spy airplane in the area were not aware of being observed by our radar , funny part they were not even aware of being locked on and funny part it happened to be a mere 3rd of khordad one of our oldest new generation of domestically designed air defense that happen to use one of our oldest AESA Radar.

they only become aware of their situation only after we blow that RQ-4 out of the sky
now tell us whose AESA is old technology and can be deceived
 
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remember when the Russians bombed and killed alot of their man in Syria without them fighting back or striking even 1 russian target?


If we lost 35 soldiers
Russia-Iran-Syrian Regime-Hezbolshit lost over 3.300


after the Assad Regime attack on Turkish Forces in Idlib 27.02.2020
Turkish Armed Forces killed 3.322 Assad Regime militia including 4 generals and Iran backed IRGC - Hezbolshit terrorists



Turkish Armed Forces bombed Russian Forces too

Russian army fled in panic after Turkish attack on Idlib


and Turkiye backed Syrian National Army killed many Russian soldiers in Syria


How many Iranian Generals were killed in Syria ? more than 10

How many Iranian soldiers were killed in Syria ? more than 3.500

and over 10.000 wounded
 
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in every aspect you look at it. if you be realistic and educate yourself , there is a not single way turkey could come on top. Iran will eat turkey for breakfest. Turkey is tasty.

even Our proxy FSA kicked Iran + SAA + Hezbolshit combined in Syria

and pathetic Iran begged help from Russia in 2015

without Russia , your pathetic Iran is nothing ....


Regional super power Turkiye easly can kick ASSAD,İran,Hezbolshit out of Syria ...
but pathetic cowardly Iran hiding behid Russia


Turkish vassal Iran which ruled by the TURKS for over 950 years between 960s and 1925
 
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the only thing iran is not happy is turkey and azerbaiejan try to cut our routes toward north through Armenia . we won't tolerate that . they can do anything else and we don't care the example is Azerbaiejan became a hot bed of Israel espionage against Iran and we don't start a war over it

Iran can do nothing .. only barking

now USA in Armenia to stop Turkiye-Azerbaijan

after Ukraine ,, another American puppet Armenia will be destroyed



there is difference between Azeri and turks as there is different between turks in Turkiyeh in different areas .

Wtf is Azeri ?
there is no race called Azeri

We both are TURKS ( Azerbaijan-Turkiye )
same blood , same nation and same language
 
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the only thing iran is not happy is turkey and azerbaiejan try to cut our routes toward north through Armenia . we won't tolerate that . they can do anything else and we don't care the example is Azerbaiejan became a hot bed of Israel espionage against Iran and we don't start a war over it


there is difference between Azeri and turks as there is different between turks in Turkiyeh in different areas .


RQ-4
remember that . USA spy drone and USA spy airplane in the area were not aware of being observed by our radar , funny part they were not even aware of being locked on and funny part it happened to be a mere 3rd of khordad one of our oldest new generation of domestically designed air defense that happen to use one of our oldest AESA Radar.

they only become aware of their situation only after we blow that RQ-4 out of the sky
now tell us whose AESA is old technology and can be deceived
آفرین به حوصله وصبر شما که داری جواب این الاغارو میدی ولی اینا منطقی ندارن.مطالبشون هم ارزشی برای بحث کردن نداره.یه سری پان الاغ هستن که فقط ترول میکنن.
 
the only thing iran is not happy is turkey and azerbaiejan try to cut our routes toward north through Armenia . we won't tolerate that . they can do anything else and we don't care the example is Azerbaiejan became a hot bed of Israel espionage against Iran and we don't start a war over it


there is difference between Azeri and turks as there is different between turks in Turkiyeh in different areas .


RQ-4
remember that . USA spy drone and USA spy airplane in the area were not aware of being observed by our radar , funny part they were not even aware of being locked on and funny part it happened to be a mere 3rd of khordad one of our oldest new generation of domestically designed air defense that happen to use one of our oldest AESA Radar.

they only become aware of their situation only after we blow that RQ-4 out of the sky
now tell us whose AESA is old technology and can be deceived

this view is stupidly claimed by some in Iran.
How can you think that this corridor will be cause to cut the communication of iran&armenia ?? Both sides; Azerbaijan&Nakhcivan and Iran&Armenia can use this communication corridor. I consider the main reason is that iran want to increase its geopolitical effects on this territory and cannot tolerate the strengthening of Turkey on this geography. Will of course finally help Istanbul to connect to all of the Turkic states. I’d be more concerned with the Indians you have jumped in bed with than with anyone else. To regards of future threats!!!
 
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